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DMT Fumarate --> DMT Freebase
#18758654 - 08/26/13 06:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have 3g DMT fumarate I made some time ago and I wanted to revert it back to freebase. I am running out of mhrb - I have approx 95g root bark left over which will give me approx 1g of freebase. I wanted to know if I could add the fumarate to my STB tek and gain on my ~ 1g freebase? Knowing nothing of chemistry, I thought to post here..
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Re: DMT Fumarate --> DMT Freebase [Re: hoodbran] 1
#18758666 - 08/26/13 07:01 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you want to convert back to freebase, mix the fumarate with an equal amount of sodium carbonate, then add a little water to make a paste. Leave if out to dry and then use naptha on it, the DMT will dissolve while the excess reactants will not, then you can freeze precipitate or evap to obtain your crystalline freebase.
Sodium Carbonate, if you don't know, can be created by heating baking soda in an oven for about an hour.
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Re: DMT Fumarate --> DMT Freebase [Re: jjjcmzzt]
#18758677 - 08/26/13 07:07 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you! over the nexus there's a similar tek.
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Re: DMT Fumarate --> DMT Freebase [Re: hoodbran]
#18758712 - 08/26/13 07:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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OK, so I've been doing some other readings, I am fine up to and including the following stages:
1 - Mix DMT fumarate with 1 part sodium carbonate. 2 - Add enough water to make it wet and mix. (Freebase the DMT again) 3 - Spread it out and let it dry completely. 4- Dissolve it in Naptha 5- Freeze precip
My question is: will the fumaric acid I used stay in the naptha rendering it useless as I tend to reuse my naptha...
Kudos for your help!
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Re: DMT Fumarate --> DMT Freebase [Re: hoodbran]
#18759977 - 08/26/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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No it shouldn't... The fumaric acid will react with the sodium carbonate to produce sodium fumarate, which is a polar molecule/compound. Naptha is non-polar, so the sodium fumarate will not dissolve in the naptha, only the freebase DMT will. So, assuming that your DMT Fumarate is relatively pure, and all the freebase DMT precipitates out, then the left over naptha should be practically pure (save the excess DMT that doesn't precipitate out, as well as other minute impurities).
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Re: DMT Fumarate --> DMT Freebase [Re: jjjcmzzt]
#18759990 - 08/26/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Id love to get the fumarate...that's means I can IV..
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Re: DMT Fumarate --> DMT Freebase [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#18760272 - 08/26/13 04:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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A) Mix well equal parts of the fumarate salts and calcium hydroxide or sodium carbonate. B) Add enough water to make it into a paste, but it is still fine if it gets more watery. Both calcium hydroxide and sodium carbonate are bases. Under these wet conditions they react with the fumarate salts and release the alkaloids in their freebase form. C) Let the paste dry out completely. It should be totally dry before continuing to the next step. D) Cut the paste into a powder and mix it with acetone. Let the powder precipitate. Acetone will pick up the freebased alkaloids leaving back calcium hydroxide (or sodium carbonate) plus any unwanted fumarate salts (calcium fumarate or sodium fumarate) that have formed during the process of freebasing. E) Aspirate the acetone and let it dry. Now one has freebased alkaloids. F) Step D can be repeated 4-5 times just to make sure all the freebase had been picked up. G) The freebase that results is a mixture of all the different alkaloids that can be pulled using xylene/toluene. This may take some time to get solid, especially if plenty of DMT-n-oxide is present. DMT-n-oxide is a yellow oil and albeit perfectly smokable and pretty active it can hinder the solidification of the end product. But given time, it does get solid. And it provides a very intense experience. Alternatively…… H) (Optional)…..one may wish to get pure white DMT out of this mixture. In that case the freebased alkaloids can be washed with naphtha. Naphtha will pick all DMT leaving back DMT-n-oxide and Jungle Spice (if MHRB had been used).
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Re: DMT Fumarate --> DMT Freebase [Re: hoodbran]
#18760275 - 08/26/13 04:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Or just snort the fumarate.
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Re: DMT Fumarate --> DMT Freebase [Re: ressa69]
#18762552 - 08/27/13 04:38 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks guys! I pulled some of the purest dmt yet with the conversion from fumarate to freebase method described by jjjcmzzt and rightly articulated by infundibulum
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