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OfflinePsilosopherr
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why do so few people know about midwives?
    #18758355 - 08/26/13 02:52 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I saw a great documentary about alternative birthing methods. It made me change my mind completely, and if I ever have a baby, fuck bringing my baby momma to a hospital.

Birthing my baby standing up in a tub of warm water.

Anyone else have knowledge on this, or any other birthing methods?


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Re: why do so few people know about midwives? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18758362 - 08/26/13 02:56 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

What if she needs a c-sec?


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Re: why do so few people know about midwives? [Re: Konyap]
    #18758369 - 08/26/13 03:00 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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What if she needs a c-sec?



maybe it would be smart to do it close to a hospital. just in case.

Or maybe midwives would know what to do somewhat. I'm no expert haha


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Re: why do so few people know about midwives? [Re: Psilosopherr] * 2
    #18758374 - 08/26/13 03:01 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

baby has best chance of survival at a hospital, doesn't it?


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Re: why do so few people know about midwives? [Re: NWlight]
    #18758376 - 08/26/13 03:04 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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NWlight said:
baby has best chance of survival at a hospital, doesn't it?




Yes


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Re: why do so few people know about midwives? [Re: NWlight]
    #18758378 - 08/26/13 03:04 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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baby has best chance of survival at a hospital, doesn't it?



Possibly. I think my chances are pretty good.

unless a solid percentage or births have serious complications.


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Re: why do so few people know about midwives? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18758385 - 08/26/13 03:08 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Well, back in the old days, before modern medicine, it was more safe to have a baby naturally because medicine hadn't been invented yet.
But ever since medicine was invented, the medical industry and mass population made it seem "dangerous" to have a baby normally.


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Re: why do so few people know about midwives? [Re: 2Experimental]
    #18758412 - 08/26/13 03:29 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

although apparently the epidural makes you go numb below the waist so Im sure the wimmins would love that.


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Re: why do so few people know about midwives? [Re: NWlight]
    #18758451 - 08/26/13 04:14 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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baby has best chance of survival at a hospital, doesn't it?






The US has the highest number of infant mortality rates among developed nations, I believe.


And I was aware of midwives. I don't have kids, and...I really don't think I want them, so I can't really say I've formed an opinion on which route I'd go for.

I was born at an actual birthing clinic and I was a water and natural birth, I think my mom would've gone with a midwife but the nice lady that delivered me is actually my Aunt and my mom chose that birthing clinic and went to Newark, New Jersey specifically for that reason.


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Re: why do so few people know about midwives? [Re: 2Experimental]
    #18758456 - 08/26/13 04:18 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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2Experimental said:
Well, back in the old days, before modern medicine, it was more safe to have a baby naturally because medicine hadn't been invented yet.
But ever since medicine was invented, the medical industry and mass population made it seem "dangerous" to have a baby normally.




Have you ever considered the negative effect this will have on the genestock?

For instance in a time of high infant mortality, children would need to actually survive birth on their own in order to pass on their genetics. However now, many children who suffer birth complications that would normally die at birth survive and potentially pass on the potential for this very same complication to their offspring.

Maybe it's nothing. But imagine if we become so dependent on medicine that one day it will simply be impossible for our species to give birth without the aid of technology and without it all babies would just die.


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Re: why do so few people know about midwives? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18758458 - 08/26/13 04:21 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

My step sister birthed that way, there was a complication though (hemorrhaging) and they brought her to the hospital. Any good Midwife knows when something is wrong and will do the appropiate action to see the baby born without problem.


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Re: why do so few people know about midwives? [Re: Dawks]
    #18758470 - 08/26/13 04:27 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Dawks said:
Quote:

2Experimental said:
Well, back in the old days, before modern medicine, it was more safe to have a baby naturally because medicine hadn't been invented yet.
But ever since medicine was invented, the medical industry and mass population made it seem "dangerous" to have a baby normally.




Have you ever considered the negative effect this will have on the genestock?

For instance in a time of high infant mortality, children would need to actually survive birth on their own in order to pass on their genetics. However now, many children who suffer birth complications that would normally die at birth survive and potentially pass on the potential for this very same complication to their offspring.

Maybe it's nothing. But imagine if we become so dependent on medicine that one day it will simply be impossible for our species to give birth without the aid of technology and without it all babies would just die.




It's the plain truth. We've built up our genetic stock for centuries and now we're shitting on that heritage.
I wouldn't want to see any mother lose her child, but I wouldn't want to see her bury that child either.


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Re: why do so few people know about midwives? [Re: Dawks]
    #18758479 - 08/26/13 04:31 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Dawks said:

Maybe it's nothing. But imagine if we become so dependent on medicine that one day it will simply be impossible for our species to give birth without the aid of technology and without it all babies would just die.




If our nuclear power plants aren't manned we'll all be dead so it won't matter


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Re: why do so few people know about midwives? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18758482 - 08/26/13 04:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: why do so few people know about midwives? [Re: Dawks]
    #18758488 - 08/26/13 04:33 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Just trying to get the good news in quick before people have time to worry


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Re: why do so few people know about midwives? [Re: Mycelium-yum]
    #18759152 - 08/26/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Mycelium-yum said:
My step sister birthed that way, there was a complication though (hemorrhaging) and they brought her to the hospital. Any good Midwife knows when something is wrong and will do the appropiate action to see the baby born without problem.



That makes sense, and is good to hear :thumbup:


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