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Finally getting a gun tomorrow!
    #18757575 - 08/25/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

i've been researching a bunch today to find something suitable for me. i think a glock is my choice for a pistol, getting a 9mm instead of a .45 because ammo is a little cheaper. also want to get a silencer and they seem to work better on 9mm than .45... would be nice if i could find a gun that already has a threaded barrel because i'm thinking a regular barrel might not be too easy to sell...

so as of now i'm thinking specifically of getting a glock 19 gen 3, since its cheaper than gen 4 and i don't really need anything in a gen4 that isn't in a gen3 and gen4 mags can be used in gen 3...

any opinions or suggestions are gratefully accepted!

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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18757578 - 08/25/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

why the silencer :ifyoucanawe:


who you tryn'a off?


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: NWlight]
    #18757592 - 08/25/13 10:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

lol, i just want to be able to shoot in my backyard without pissing ppl off. if i wanted to off someone i wouldn't be dumb enough to announce this as well as paying a $200 tax to ATF or whatever its called. i would just make my own.


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: NWlight]
    #18757595 - 08/25/13 10:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: Sheekle] * 1
    #18757603 - 08/25/13 10:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18757623 - 08/25/13 10:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, Hippies and guns don't mix.

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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: NWlight] * 1
    #18757629 - 08/25/13 10:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

to bad he didn't have a gun


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: NWlight]
    #18757640 - 08/25/13 10:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It's a suppressor, not a silencer. 

One thing you should do is try and shoot any pistol you are looking to buy.
If you can't, at least hold different pistols, see what fits your hand.
What you can comfortably use. Size, weight, trigger. is important
Any of the brands that are used in law enforcement or military will have the option of a threaded barrel. Glock, S&W, etc...

Also, you want your pistol to look like it has a suppository on the end of it? :lol:


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18757661 - 08/25/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

yea i know i can buy threaded barrels obviously but haven't seen any complete guns that come like that. i didn't really know what you meant until i looked up suppository in the dictionary, i know the rounded ends don't look all that cool but it is very small and works just as well as bigger ones...



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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18757663 - 08/25/13 11:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Cool cool I like that there are regular people out there in our society who have guns for when shit goes down. Me personally, way too much responsibility. I want to deal with that being under my name and responsibility etc etc. Plus they cost a lot. Nice though, I like the silencer thing. Guns are badass.


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: gzuf]
    #18757666 - 08/25/13 11:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Cool cool I like that there are regular people out there in our society who have guns for when shit goes down. Me personally, way too much responsibility. I can't deal with that life-destroyer being under my name and responsibility etc etc. Plus they cost a lot. Nice though, I like the silencer thing. Guns are badass.



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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: Sheekle] * 7
    #18757687 - 08/25/13 11:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Classic Sheekle post, adds nothing to the topic while demanding all the attention :snub:


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: gzuf] * 3
    #18757703 - 08/25/13 11:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Classic Sheekle post, adds nothing to the topic while demanding all the attention :snub:



Classic gzuf post, adds nothing to the topic while talking about Sheekle instead :snub:


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: gzuf]
    #18757708 - 08/25/13 11:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

lol


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality] * 3
    #18757714 - 08/25/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

classic NWlight post

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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18757717 - 08/25/13 11:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I recently had a dream that when I woke up I felt like I should own a gun


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: NWlight]
    #18757733 - 08/25/13 11:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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yeah, Hippies and guns don't mix.





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Thus spawning this in Souther Oregon,

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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18757738 - 08/25/13 11:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

i'm not a hippie


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18757750 - 08/25/13 11:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

clearly.



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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18757774 - 08/25/13 11:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

As far as the caliber, what are you going to be using the gun for primarily?
If you are just going to be shooting in you back yard a .22 with a suppressor would be a blast.

Awesome for targets and you could shoot that all night long.


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: 4runner]
    #18757799 - 08/25/13 11:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

yea i'd like to have something that i would be comfortable with using for defense as well. if i really want to be cheap and just shoot a targets all day long i could use a pellet gun lol. .22 hand guns are generally not much cheaper than larger caliber guns that i have seen in my local shops.

plus ammo for .22 and 9mm are not much different in price so i don't see any reason to buy a .22.


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18757820 - 08/25/13 11:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

40 cal hollowpoints are all I got.  I don't want bullets to go through my wall and potentially hurt a neighbor in worst case scenario break-in self defense situation


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: NWlight]
    #18757825 - 08/25/13 11:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

.22 is supposedly the weapon of choice for assassins. Shoot them point blank in the head and it doesn't exit and just bounces around a lot.


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: Shroomism]
    #18757834 - 08/25/13 11:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

i think i heard of that too.


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18757844 - 08/25/13 11:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Richie loved to use 22s because the bullets are small and they don't come out the other end like a 45, see, a 45 will blow a barn door out the back of your head and there's a lot of dry cleaning involved, but a 22 will just rattle around like Pac-Man until you're dead.


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: Konyap]
    #18757850 - 08/25/13 11:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

in a self defense scenario i think clean up will be least of my concern.


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18757863 - 08/25/13 11:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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in a self defense scenario i think clean up will be least of my concern.



yeah this.  less recoil with a 22 but thing is with a these 40 cal hollowpoints all you gotta do is get one shot in and they got a hole in their back the size of a cantalope


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: Shroomism]
    #18757872 - 08/25/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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.22 is supposedly the weapon of choice for assassins. Shoot them point blank in the head and it doesn't exit and just bounces around a lot.




I believe you are thinking of weird mob hits in the basement. If you are going to walk up to and put a gun to someones head in hte street back splatter would be the worst of your worries. You need a well placed .22 round for pop


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: 4runner]
    #18757879 - 08/25/13 11:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

No I think it's less because of the splatter, and more because the bullet bouncing around is pretty much guaranteed to kill the person,
whereas a misfired 45 may put a giant hole in them, but perhaps you didn't hit a vital spot

I dunno though this is all conjecture ,you're fucked either way


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: Shroomism]
    #18757889 - 08/25/13 11:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

No bouncing around, movie myths man.


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,you're fucked either way




Yes, yes you are. Er not you.. them :lol:


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: Shroomism]
    #18757890 - 08/25/13 11:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

If you shot them in the head I'd doubt they remember who did it anyway.


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality] * 1
    #18757893 - 08/25/13 11:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

If you end up shooting yourself high on drugs, at least live stream it beforehand.


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: deadwk]
    #18758086 - 08/26/13 12:47 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

hilarious


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: deadwk]
    #18758133 - 08/26/13 01:05 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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If you end up shooting yourself high on drugs, at least live stream it beforehand.





That's fucked dude. Besides, how can you live stream something beforehand? :header:


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18758187 - 08/26/13 01:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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lol, i just want to be able to shoot in my backyard without pissing ppl off. if i wanted to off someone i wouldn't be dumb enough to announce this as well as paying a $200 tax to ATF or whatever its called. i would just make my own.



This isn't really a good enough reason to get one in many cases... Also, you will need signed approval from your county sheriff to have the ATF permit the suppressor.

Also, if you are even talking about making your own, you shouldn't be so worried about not having a threaded barrel. That is easy machining with the right tooling.


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SoreSpore]
    #18758221 - 08/26/13 01:33 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

really? source?


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18758226 - 08/26/13 01:35 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

also you don't need to do any machining to make a silencer, i would just rather have a nice one than sticking an oil filter can on the end of my gun


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18758500 - 08/26/13 04:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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also want to get a silencer and they seem to work better on 9mm than .45...




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    #18758512 - 08/26/13 04:45 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Be sure to get this as well:



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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SoreSpore]
    #18758518 - 08/26/13 04:49 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

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lol, i just want to be able to shoot in my backyard without pissing ppl off. if i wanted to off someone i wouldn't be dumb enough to announce this as well as paying a $200 tax to ATF or whatever its called. i would just make my own.



This isn't really a good enough reason to get one in many cases... Also, you will need signed approval from your county sheriff to have the ATF permit the suppressor.

Also, if you are even talking about making your own, you shouldn't be so worried about not having a threaded barrel. That is easy machining with the right tooling.





you dont need a reason for a suppressor and I know that where I live,
there's no sheriff approval required, you do nothing more than set up
an NFA trust, fill out the forms and pay the $200 transfer tax

http://www.northwestfirearms.com/nfa-weapons/26116-how-set-up-trust-nfa.html

http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2009/08/free-nfa-trust-form-for-class.html


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18758521 - 08/26/13 04:50 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

.45 ACP has twice the energy of 9mm Parabellum for a similar sized bullet and that translates as much more penetrating power.

I read a PDF (I believe posted by Prisoner) where LEO investigated which bullet was the most lethal under varied circumstances and .45 won it with a landslide over 9mm.


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    #18758527 - 08/26/13 04:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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.45 ACP has twice the energy of 9mm Parabellum for a similar sized bullet and that translates as much more penetrating power.

I read a PDF (I believe posted by Prisoner) where LEO investigated which bullet was the most lethal under varied circumstances and .45 won it with a landslide over 9mm.





I believe the .22 was right on par with the 9mm in lethality, the data was
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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: rulesq]
    #18758537 - 08/26/13 05:02 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Be sure to get this as well:



:hehehe:





that thing shoots at a rate of $280/minute


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    #18758547 - 08/26/13 05:07 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah it gets a "bit" pricy.

Pretty cool anyway :shrug:


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: rulesq]
    #18758670 - 08/26/13 07:04 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

OP gonna be all like: 'pew pew pew, take that baddies!'


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    #18758792 - 08/26/13 08:16 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: rew736]
    #18758848 - 08/26/13 08:42 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

fuck a 22.in a combat situation they suck dick.get a gun fighters gun.i always buy a gun that I will be comfortable with in case of a real gun fight.yeah a 22 will kill you at point blank range in the head,but in a combat situation or a home invasion ivolving multiple people with guns a 22 is insufficient AF
im not worried about someone trying to mug me.i don't have shit plus im a bigger person.im more into the scenario of multiple home invaders w/ guns,road rage incident w/ foe who has gun as well ect ect


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #18758892 - 08/26/13 09:02 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Lone wolf distribution makes a drop in barrel for your model that is threaded. Get yourself a nice set of night sites and some training and have some fun. (I highly recommend training because damn u should see some of the tards that have come through my classes) is this your first pistol? Also look up the 25 cent trigger mod for it.


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    #18758927 - 08/26/13 09:15 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I have 6 guns in my house. None can be fired in my backyard :frown:

I do have a BB gun though that I use to shoot at empty tin cans for practice, swell as birds that shit on my car.


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    #18758938 - 08/26/13 09:17 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Out here we can shoot any type of gun we want, pretty much when ever we want :lol: and we do


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: B_BOY]
    #18759136 - 08/26/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

glock is never a bad choice neither is ruger. Bro got himself the Taurus judge shoots fucking shotgun shells.




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I'd like to say I think this video is fake or rigged. I've been hunting watermelon in the wild for atleast 15 years now, and have never seen more than 2 watermelons lined up in a row. I heard a story of a guy who went hunting wild watermelons and found 3 in a perfect line, but I found that hard to believe.

These watermelons were either tamed and trained, or sedated and slaughtered for fun. It's sad either way.





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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: Gorlax] * 1
    #18759148 - 08/26/13 10:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

A 45 would be a better choice if you want a suppressor. Any round that is super sonic will make a loud crack, silencer or not. Subsonic ammo for 9mm, on top of packing less of a punch than regular 9mm, will likely cost as much or more than 45 ammo.

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    #18759149 - 08/26/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Jesus christ look at that hand cannon  :omfg:

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    #18759365 - 08/26/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I have a ruger P94 .40 cal, carries 11 rounds in the clip, with a hogue grip... pretty much would handle anything I needed to take care of...

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    #18759710 - 08/26/13 02:01 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

hmmm considering that a 9mm is not much more lethal than a .22 i think i am going to get a glock 30


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    #18759800 - 08/26/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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also want to get a silencer




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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18759807 - 08/26/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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hmmm considering that a 9mm is not much more lethal than a .22 i think i am going to get a glock 30



you're kidding, right?

9mm is comparable to a .45, not a 22. With good hollow points a 9mm will expand to be wider than a .45.

22's are lethal, yea, but it might not be until the next day. There's no comparison in the stopping power.


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hmmm considering that a 9mm is not much more lethal than a .22 i think i am going to get a glock 30



you're kidding, right?

9mm is comparable to a .45, not a 22. With good hollow points a 9mm will expand to be wider than a .45.

22's are lethal, yea, but it might not be until the next day. There's no comparison in the stopping power.




tell us what this stopping power myth is if you dont mind

we know the police dont use a .22, they typically use a 9mm

shot 27 times and filed federal lawsuit
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/08/06/angel-alvarez-sues-nypd-over-police-gunfire-at-harlem-block-party/

shot 28 times and stands trial
http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/11730457-418/40-years-in-prison-for-man-shot-28-times-by-chicago-cops.html

shot 15 times and he's fucking pissed about it for some reason
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/21/us/florida-shot-by-mistake/?hpt=us_c1

shot 14 times and now he's wealthy
http://www.techyville.com/2013/08/news/homeless-couple-now-millionaires-after-being-shot-15-times-by-lapd/


tell us about how 9mm has so much stopping power, stopping power and knock
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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #18760121 - 08/26/13 03:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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fuck a 22.in a combat situation they suck dick.get a gun fighters gun.





yeah, because a colt peacemaker is the best choice




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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #18760137 - 08/26/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

.22 suck ass for self defense

the .22 will kill...after yer opponent has filled you with lead,taken yer gun,or stabbed you in the time its gonna take him to expire


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #18760180 - 08/26/13 03:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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.22 suck ass for self defense

the .22 will kill...after yer opponent has filled you with lead,taken yer gun,or stabbed you in the time its gonna take him to expire





the problem with your claims is that real life shooting fatalities paint a
much different picture, you're living in a land of fantasy about the
ineffectiveness of a .22 in self defense

let's face it, thousands of people surviving being shot a dozen or more times
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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #18760217 - 08/26/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

well considering i trust pris more than just about anyone else to know what he's talking about. i went and got the .45 which was my first choice anyway... waiting for pic to upload :smile:



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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18760389 - 08/26/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

why'd you get a 45 in such a compact platform?thats gonna kick like a mug


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #18760415 - 08/26/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

because i like the glock it seems easy to clean


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18760439 - 08/26/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I like glocks tho.its nice yer just gonna have to get proficient at firing a large caliber out of a compact pistol.i had a kel tec 9mm,after like a clip or two my hand was sore as hell from the snap,but hopefully the glock is more controllable than those POS


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18760480 - 08/26/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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because i like the glock it seems easy to clean




Keeping a pistol clean is very important to it's accuracy, it's been mentioned by marksman though who've been shooting for years they aren't that accurate.


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18760587 - 08/26/13 05:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You need to check your gun laws. You have to have a special permit to even own a silencer for any gun. I live in Montana which is 100% pro gun and I've only ever known 2 people that have a permit to own a silencer. One is a Smith and Wesson rep and the other owns his own gun shop and he teaches concealed carry classes.

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    #18760658 - 08/26/13 05:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

yea i realize it will take a long time before i can get a silencer and it will be expensive. but that's what i want and once i get approved for it, if i do, i should be approved to get full auto which will be a fucking blast once i can afford that.


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18760707 - 08/26/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It's more of a muff if you ask me.


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: Konyap]
    #18760742 - 08/26/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

if you put water into it there is a huge difference. especially if you're outside.

this is a good example, at 1.20 he puts water in the suppressor.


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18760755 - 08/26/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I saw a video, someone in the comments said if you don't submerge a gun completely when shooting submerged in water it'll like recoil or some shit and break your wrist.


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #18760778 - 08/26/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Sure there are cases where people have been stopped by one 22 bullet and not been stopped by 20 9mm bullets, but generally speaking, I think it's safe to say that a 9mm has a better chance of stopping someone from being a further threat than a 22. Don't get me wrong, 22's are nasty little bullets and I wouldn't want to get shot with either, but I think most people would feel much safer with a 9mm or 45 than a 22.


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hmmm considering that a 9mm is not much more lethal than a .22 i think i am going to get a glock 30



you're kidding, right?

9mm is comparable to a .45, not a 22. With good hollow points a 9mm will expand to be wider than a .45.

22's are lethal, yea, but it might not be until the next day. There's no comparison in the stopping power.




tell us what this stopping power myth is if you dont mind

we know the police dont use a .22, they typically use a 9mm

shot 27 times and filed federal lawsuit
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/08/06/angel-alvarez-sues-nypd-over-police-gunfire-at-harlem-block-party/

shot 28 times and stands trial
http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/11730457-418/40-years-in-prison-for-man-shot-28-times-by-chicago-cops.html

shot 15 times and he's fucking pissed about it for some reason
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/21/us/florida-shot-by-mistake/?hpt=us_c1

shot 14 times and now he's wealthy
http://www.techyville.com/2013/08/news/homeless-couple-now-millionaires-after-being-shot-15-times-by-lapd/


tell us about how 9mm has so much stopping power, stopping power and knock
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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: Synthe]
    #18760841 - 08/26/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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SurReality said:
also want to get a silencer




Suppressors are actually rather ineffective. Here's a video as an example.






An aquaintnance has a suppressor for his UZI.  With subsonic ammunition it sounds like a nail gun.  Its quiet enough to hear the action cycling.

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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #18760856 - 08/26/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

ive had gun world,guns,handgunner mag subscriptions for years and still,and never has any article said a 22 was a good self defense round...maybe for a woman
if someones wearing a leather jacket or layers or denim a 22 from 10 yards fired from a hand gun might not even penetrate enough to do any damage,meanwhile yer advisories dumping real centerfire caliber rounds at you not rim fire..22 is lacking in kinetic energy in a combat situation


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    #18760860 - 08/26/13 06:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

does it sound like that dry?


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18760868 - 08/26/13 06:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, that's just screwing the thing on the barrel and firing.  I imagine with supersonic ammunition you'd get a lot more noise and a crack though.


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    #18760912 - 08/26/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Guns are pretty fun to fire, but I've never really felt a compelling urge to own one. I feel like when people carry weapons like this, there is way too much temptation to not be careful and put oneself in dumb situations that would be avoided if they weren't carrying.


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    #18760966 - 08/26/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

i'm not sure i see your point if you legally own a gun.


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    #18760972 - 08/26/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

My point was that I think people who carry guns are more likely to put themselves in risky situations that they would otherwise avoid if they weren't carrying.

Like I said, I enjoy shooting guns, I was just stating one of the reasons that I choose not to carry one.


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    #18760988 - 08/26/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

well i understand the point, but i just can't think of a scenario of this that is not related to criminal activities, is what i meant.


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18760998 - 08/26/13 07:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

How bout getting drunk and cocky in a bar/ nightclub. I think people are much more likely to escalate a situation if they are carrying.


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My point was that I think people who carry guns are more likely to put themselves in risky situations that they would otherwise avoid if they weren't carrying.




Idiots will be idiots. Just because someone can conceal carry doesn't mean they decide to now walk down the dark alleys every night.


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    #18761004 - 08/26/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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    #18761008 - 08/26/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I like the s&w m&p's better than the glocks.


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    #18761009 - 08/26/13 07:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

yea most people i know who carry don't carry to bars or avoid bars all together especially if they are drinking heavy.


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    #18761012 - 08/26/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Lets just say I've known some people in my day who would beg to differ with that generalization


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Lets just say I've known some people in my day who would beg to differ with that generalization




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    #18761023 - 08/26/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

wasn't a generalization, just my personal experience. i have seen guns come out at the bar but i didn't know them and i am pretty sure they weren't legally carrying them.


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Lets just say I've known some people in my day who would beg to differ with that generalization




So did they get all shooty and bloody the places up?



No, but I've seen it make people cocky enough that it was a damn good thing that didn't happen. I get cocky enough from my martial arts training. I don't know what I'd be like if I were carrying a gun and drinking.


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18761596 - 08/26/13 09:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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    #18761599 - 08/26/13 09:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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    #18761603 - 08/26/13 09:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

i think the problem is being cocky lol, whether or not you have a gun. if you threaten someones life in america there's a good chance your getting shot.


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    #18761606 - 08/26/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Why I prefer to just opt out :shrug:


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    #18761650 - 08/26/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

i'm just replying you saying your martial arts training makes you cocky. most people into that know pressure points which are lethal, and if you just started a fight with someone you would be completely liable to be shot although not killed.


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    #18761705 - 08/26/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

.22 is definitely lethal.  Shot placement makes the biggest difference anyways.  .22 magnum has nearly the same energy as a 9mm but with better trajectory, velocity and good peneteration.  Barrel length also makes a big difference to projectile energy.


I would have gone with a .40 and bought a .357 sig barrel as well.  .357 sig works with .40 magazines and guns and is a great round, better than .45 acp in my opinion.  It has more energy than a .45 acp and you can carry more of them in the same size magazine, better penetration potential too, .357 sig could penetrate higher level body armor or cover than .45 acp.


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    #18761802 - 08/26/13 10:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

thanks for your input. this was my first gun though, and i admit i'm pretty ignorant about guns as far as the differences in them. but i feel this is a good weapon for an experienced shooter who grew up around guns. i like that there is no safety non-sense, if i want my guns to not fire then i won't load them.


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: Shins]
    #18762142 - 08/27/13 12:14 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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.22 is definitely lethal.  Shot placement makes the biggest difference anyways.  .22 magnum has nearly the same energy as a 9mm but with better trajectory, velocity and good peneteration.  Barrel length also makes a big difference to projectile energy.






Yep, unless specified any 22 mag ballistics will be for a rifle barrel. It's only mariginally better than 22lr in a handgun.


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    #18762529 - 08/27/13 04:26 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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.45 ACP has twice the energy of 9mm Parabellum for a similar sized bullet and that translates as much more penetrating power.

I read a PDF (I believe posted by Prisoner) where LEO investigated which bullet was the most lethal under varied circumstances and .45 won it with a landslide over 9mm.





I believe the .22 was right on par with the 9mm in lethality, the data was
collected from actual shootings as opposed to ballistic gel lab tests





I'm not disputing the .22 lethality just that there was a collossal energy difference between .45 and 9mm.

Not all .22 aree created equal though, some are solely propelled with just a primer while others are packed to the brim with powder.  Obviously that makes a huge difference in effectiveness.


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    #18762567 - 08/27/13 04:58 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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because i like the glock it seems easy to clean




Keeping a pistol clean is very important to it's accuracy, it's been mentioned by marksman though who've been shooting for years they aren't that accurate.





accuracy is in the shooter, even the most accurate gun n the world isnt going
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well considering i trust pris more than just about anyone else to know what he's talking about. i went and got the .45 which was my first choice anyway... waiting for pic to upload :smile:







I'm not a bit fan of glock but they are good guns and there's a lot of shit
out there that can help you tailor the gun for your self and your style of
shooting, threaded barrels, compensated barrels/slides, mag wells, extended
magazines, a great deal of stuff that many people find useful or just fun


the .45 ACP is a good general duty round that can be bought in a number of
configurations, Hornady Critical Defense is a great round for a carry
weapon while any standard ball round above 200 grains is great for target
practice and still somewhat affordable. some manufacturers do recommend a
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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: Shins]
    #18762571 - 08/27/13 05:05 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I would have gone with a .40 and bought a .357 sig barrel as well. 





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    #18762593 - 08/27/13 05:29 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

OP have you taken your baby out to the range yet? (or mountains if thats your thing)


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    #18762694 - 08/27/13 06:49 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

lucky me, I can walk out my door and start shooting and no one will bat an eye, even at 2am


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    #18762698 - 08/27/13 06:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Gotta love living in the country. I'm moving back soon; I'd rather work the fields and deal with
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    #18763133 - 08/27/13 09:57 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

i haven't yet :frown: , i don't have a vehicle but the closest national forest is closer than the closest free shooting range. so a bike ride might be in store. plus the only ammo i could get at shop i got my gun were hollow points, $28 for 20 rounds but i have an order of 150 rounds coming in the mail that was about $90 which i plan to use for practice. but i'm tempted to waste at most 10 rounds of the hollow points on some beer cans if i can't find anyone in town to sell me rounds for a $1 or less.

i am trained for concealed carry, i think the next thing i spend on guns will be for my permit. but before i am permitted, how should carry my gun on my bicycle? i want to just carry it in a bag, i don't really want everyone to know i have a gun. so if i keep my ammo (loaded mags) in separate parts of my bag, or in my pants pocket is that legal? i guess i can just buy a holster for my hip and open carry since i'll just be out of town for all but a 5 minute ride...


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    #18763155 - 08/27/13 10:04 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

with a small gun like that,if you hold it weak wristed it could easily jam on you.cant wait to hear about the recoil on that compact 45.and goddamn that's highway robbery $28 for 20 self defence bullet?thats a rip.and besides with a giant bullet like a 230 grain 45 you really don't need HP.the big ass bullet will have plenty of knock down power.next time just get yerself some regular 230 grain roundball for way cheaper.you should be able to get a box of 50 for around 15-16 bux,jacketed roundball


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    #18763186 - 08/27/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

if i can that would be awesome, cheapest i found was 50 for $25 before shipping. you know a website selling rounds that cheap? i'll look around town, i really want to shoot today.

also i have shot a compact .45 before and i am well aware of the recoil :wink: i'm not sure exactly what gun it was but i don't think it was much bigger


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    #18763217 - 08/27/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

have you checked WM?i saw a brick(100 bullets) of Winchester jacketed round ball there for like 30 some odd dollars
45 can be expensive AF tho
like I said just stick to a good well functioning accurate round ball.the 230 grain fatty has plenty of knock down power without getting all fancy with the projectile.thats why GIs love the 45 in combat.it killed the enemy.HP are not allowed through Geneva conventions in the US military,all bullets are jacketed non HP(other than tracers of course)


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    #18763222 - 08/27/13 10:25 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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    #18763252 - 08/27/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

what is WM? anyway i just found a pawn shop 3 blocks from with 50 rounds for 20 bucks, problem was they only had 1 box of 50... where can i find these bricks for 30 bucks?


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    #18763349 - 08/27/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

God damn you crazy fucks, going to the park to shoot yer guns:lol:


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    #18763447 - 08/27/13 11:25 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

national forest not a park, i'm pretty sure that is fine.


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    #18763457 - 08/27/13 11:27 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I dunno seems kinda dangerous... I would take it out to the coast or something...


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    #18763476 - 08/27/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

As long as he's not shooting into the forests Id say its fine.

You just wouldn't wanna accidently shoot a backpacker.


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    #18763486 - 08/27/13 11:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: Legend]
    #18763500 - 08/27/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

no i would be shooting into a hill of course so i can see them end up in the ground.

i'm really not sure how i can carry my gun on my bicycle, since i don't have a holster i was thinking i would just carry in my bag unloaded... but since i'm not sure its probably best to go buy a holster so it is visible while traveling by bike.


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    #18763508 - 08/27/13 11:37 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

In my state it must be unloaded when traveling anyway. (Pretty sure)

I would just make sure it's all tightly secure and unloaded in your bag.


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    #18763537 - 08/27/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

yea we can have a loaded gun in the car in colorado, just check the law. specifically says you can't carry concealed on your person, which i assume includes a backpack on a bicycle... going to buy a holster to stay law abiding, i need to ear protection anyway. idk why i didn't pick that stuff up while i went out and got ammo at the pawn...


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Re: Finally getting a gun tomorrow! [Re: SurReality]
    #18763606 - 08/27/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

any familiar with glock know why i can't put a full magazine in the gun? if i leave out one round it goes right in but a full one doesn't, i tried with more force but i don't want to force too much :/


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    #18763617 - 08/27/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

don't force it whatever you do...how many bullets are supposed to go in the clip?6?7?


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    #18763640 - 08/27/13 12:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

you have the right size round?


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    #18763661 - 08/27/13 12:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

yes lol .45 auto, exactly the same size as the the shells that came with the gun from the manufacturer.


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    #18763666 - 08/27/13 12:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

i only ask cause ive read stories of people loading the clip with a size up. with pressure, you can load a higher cal, but when you try to load the clip it either wont fit or the gun will jam when you try to fire.

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    #18763669 - 08/27/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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ok that explains it

a lot of 45 gun manufactures claim so much 45 ammo fits in the mag.alot of times this isn't the case not to mention yer gun is still "tight" which means it isn't broke in yet.it takes at least 200 rounds to properly break in a pistol.10 rounds capacity is amazing for that tiny gun considering its compact.full size 1911 usually carry only 7-8 45 rounds.load it up with 9 or 8 or even 7 rounds in that compact pistol,youll be fine..also the manufacturer may have meant 9 in the clip and one in the chamber.load up 9 bullets,chamber 1,then unload the clip and add a bullet.you got 10 rounds


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    #18763704 - 08/27/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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i only ask cause ive read stories of people loading the clip with a size up. with pressure, you can load a higher cal, but when you try to load the clip it either wont fit or the gun will jam when you try to fire.

im only trying to help man...




i know, i'm not trying to load anything but what the gun is made for. i did think you must have thought i was retarded tho lol. thanks for explaining.
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ok that explains it

a lot of 45 gun manufactures claim so much 45 ammo fits in the mag.alot of times this isn't the case not to mention yer gun is still "tight" which means it isn't broke in yet.it takes at least 200 rounds to properly break in a pistol.10 rounds capacity is amazing for that tiny gun considering its compact.full size 1911 usually carry only 7-8 45 rounds.load it up with 9 or 8 or even 7 rounds in that compact pistol,youll be fine..also the manufacturer may have meant 9 in the clip and one in the chamber.load up 9 bullets,chamber 1,then unload the clip and add a bullet.you got 10 rounds




gotcha, i thought it might be the clip. its actually really hard to get that 10th round in the clip so i thought maybe it was the clip.
also what about with larger magazines? a little extreme but.. http://www.glockstore.com/mag-parts-extensions/fifty-round-magazine-drum-for-glock


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    #18763712 - 08/27/13 12:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

actually i just found out it works fine if i load with the slide locked back. i was never told that until i watched the video on 50 round drum mag


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    #18763715 - 08/27/13 12:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

from my understanding you bought a random box from a pawn shop. most pawn shops around here are shady. ive even seen some shops sell rounds in zip lock baggies. it was nothing on you, it was more on the shadiness of the shops themselves...

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    #18763721 - 08/27/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It's a common problem, the gun isn't tight though, it's the magazine spring. Just throw this in to google "seating magazine glock 30" and you will see.
I have a S&W shield that takes some force when inserting the 7 round mag in, it really needs a good palm strike.

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    #18763724 - 08/27/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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actually i just found out it works fine if i load with the slide locked back. i was never told that until i watched the video on 50 round drum mag




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    #18763776 - 08/27/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

lol i think the pawn shop i got it at was pretty cool, it came in a box just like from any shop. actually the pawn shop was recommended to me from a large sports store because they were out and the guy was nice enough to let me know that the prices are much better there anyway.

also it did come with a loader, but i seem to find it easier to just use my fingers for the last round. honestly i'm probably not going to load 10 rounds at a time if i'm shooting, probably really would just be a waste of time spending extra time to struggle just to get one more in.


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