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as7859
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Question about very low dose of psilocybin
#18756881 - 08/25/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I plan on taking 0.35g for my first time, just to get a feel for it. What I'm wondering is whether there will be physiological effects that will mean a bike ride would be out of the question. I think I'd like very, very much to ride my bike and listen to music; but I wouldn't like to take it and then find, a few miles down the road, that I feel weak/woozy, etc.
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: as7859]
#18756887 - 08/25/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tough to say man. You might or might not feel it depending on the strength of the mushrooms. You would probably feel .5g slightly though. Even a single gram is generally a pretty weak dose.
Ps: I think you can do what I can do. With that said, I could be tripping pretty hard and still ride a bike. I actually feel very "powerful" on mushrooms and I don't know how to describe that. I can bust out SOOO many more push ups and pull ups and I can SPRINT for so much longer.
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: Sagescruffy]
#18756914 - 08/25/13 08:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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.35 grams is a very very low dose and it might give you the wrong idea of what mushrooms were about.. The first time this one kid I know did acid, he took a small dose and just got threshold effects. He found it very uncomfortable, and it scared him away. I would suggest 1 - 1.5 grams of dried cubensis. It will give you a taste of what they're really about, while still giving you the mental capacity to act sober, ride a bike and more!
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: MrHill]
#18756927 - 08/25/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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.35g are you serious? You aren't going to feel much, and should probably not eat for 5 hours prior. Still, you won't get visuals at .35 and it might be frustrating wanting more. i suggest ATLEAST half eighth.
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: as7859]
#18756941 - 08/25/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dude mushrooms are not so scary and intense that you need to beat around the bush with 0.35g man that's insane...eat 1.5g and call it a night....I mean if your vagina can handle it and all...
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#18756979 - 08/25/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alright alright, there's nothing wrong with small doses, especially since one can't know what to expect. But you are probably overestimating them, I say go for 1 gram, I would imagine it is impossible to have the infamous "bad trip" on that small of a dose.
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: Harrishroom]
#18756983 - 08/25/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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You can bike on .35
Start with a gram. You'll still be able to bike, and it'll give you a better feel for the drug
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: KingKnowledge]
#18757105 - 08/25/13 09:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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As everyone's saying, you probably won't notice much of anything. That's a very, very low dose. 1 Gram for me barely produces any effects.
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: Thisfire]
#18757354 - 08/25/13 09:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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My first dose was 3.5g. Good trip, but a little confusing. I found my sweet-spot at 2.5g. Full on trip, some OEVs, good CEVs, nice headspace, not confusing.
I would recommend 2g for a first timer. 0.35g is a waste of mushrooms. You won't feel anything.
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: as7859]
#18757452 - 08/25/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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as7859 said: I plan on taking 0.35g for my first time, just to get a feel for it. What I'm wondering is whether there will be physiological effects that will mean a bike ride would be out of the question. I think I'd like very, very much to ride my bike and listen to music; but I wouldn't like to take it and then find, a few miles down the road, that I feel weak/woozy, etc.
Thanks 
That will be very close to nothing unless you are extremely sensitive to the drug. I've biked regularly after doing large doses, I don't think you've got anything to worry about there. It doesn't make you weak or woozy once you're past the peak, but you won't have a peak at that kind of dose, just maybe a hard time telling whether you actually did anything or not. Better to dose regularly the first time. 
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: PrimalSoup]
#18757514 - 08/25/13 10:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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IMO microdosing should be reserved for after you have experience with the drug. I can feel the effects of .35 grams of mushrooms, but I probably couldn't if I didn't know what I was looking for.
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: MrHill]
#18758459 - 08/26/13 04:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you for the replies people. The only reason I was planning to do 0.35g is 'cause I have read that some people can just be sensitive and experience strong effects, so was just in case I take 1g or something and end up with the equivalent of a 3g+ trip for normal users!
Based on your answers though I think I'll go for round about the 1g mark anyway!
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: as7859]
#18758519 - 08/26/13 04:49 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I took 0.1g the other day and felt it undeniably. These were dry subs though, which can be very potent.
As much as I felt the definitive psychedelic state, I was still very coherent and could type, talk, walk like a sober person. The only visible sign of it would have been the paradoxical restlessness/tiredness (would've been the pupils too, but my eyes are very dark brown).
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: TribalSkyGod]
#18758541 - 08/26/13 05:03 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Really pointless.
A very small dose will still give you no idea of what a normal dose is like.
That being said, I always recommend a normal dose for even first time trippers. Set and setting, make sure it's right.
Reason why I recommend a normal trip for first timers, is that because a half dose/small dose can be even MORE un-nerving because these small doses can put you in-between states of mind where things can become confusing.
With mushrooms, either go all the way or not at all. (In my honest opinion). And then when you know what it's all about, you can change your doses for desired effects and needs of your surroundings.
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: mushroomfred]
#18758886 - 08/26/13 08:58 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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For me, 1.75 is where visuals begin, hard to walk, philosophical thoughts etc, but at this point the ego is still intact, it's a good dose.
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: as7859]
#18759227 - 08/26/13 10:58 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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as7859 said: I plan on taking 0.35g for my first time, just to get a feel for it. What I'm wondering is whether there will be physiological effects that will mean a bike ride would be out of the question. I think I'd like very, very much to ride my bike and listen to music; but I wouldn't like to take it and then find, a few miles down the road, that I feel weak/woozy, etc.
Thanks 
Wow- lots of really BAD advice in this thread! Seems like people are ignoring your post and replying as if you asked if a microdose of .35g is enough to trip balls. How silly...
It's your very first time and you're asking about safety while riding a bicycle! Your plan is perfect - start low, .35g is fine. Gauge how that feels and bump it up in the future if you want more of the feeling. The future is wide open my friend, no need to rush into things. Especially if it's your first time and you plan on riding a bicycle.
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: Universe]
#18759229 - 08/26/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: Universe]
#18759238 - 08/26/13 11:03 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I agree Universe, I just question whether you'd actually feel it. I was able to get a body high but very little mental changes from around 1.2g my first time.
.35g seems very very low to me, and I do wonder if there's a minimum threshold for the human body before it even starts to produce any effect. I don't know much about the science behind psilocybin though. either way, if OP is going to feel it, then I say by all means, everyone should take however much they want. I don't believe you should pressure anyone into taking more than they're comfortable with
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: krunkmaster]
#18759284 - 08/26/13 11:20 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yea take whatever dose you want, but there's probably around 1 percent of people that are sensitive like you say, I don't know how acurate that is but I've never met anyone that sensitive. More often I hear people that don't trip on a reasonable dose. I've never even read a post of someone who took less than a half gram and had a level three like an eigth can do. Just try it though I guess to stop the worry about if your sensitive to it.
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: crimsonking91]
#18759325 - 08/26/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Best advice from Universe. Start slow and find your comfort zone. Lots of time to be a hero.
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: Universe]
#18759342 - 08/26/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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as7859 said: I plan on taking 0.35g for my first time, just to get a feel for it. What I'm wondering is whether there will be physiological effects that will mean a bike ride would be out of the question. I think I'd like very, very much to ride my bike and listen to music; but I wouldn't like to take it and then find, a few miles down the road, that I feel weak/woozy, etc.
Thanks 
Wow- lots of really BAD advice in this thread! Seems like people are ignoring your post and replying as if you asked if a microdose of .35g is enough to trip balls. How silly...
It's your very first time and you're asking about safety while riding a bicycle! Your plan is perfect - start low, .35g is fine. Gauge how that feels and bump it up in the future if you want more of the feeling. The future is wide open my friend, no need to rush into things. Especially if it's your first time and you plan on riding a bicycle. 
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: Universe]
#18759350 - 08/26/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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as7859 said: I plan on taking 0.35g for my first time, just to get a feel for it. What I'm wondering is whether there will be physiological effects that will mean a bike ride would be out of the question. I think I'd like very, very much to ride my bike and listen to music; but I wouldn't like to take it and then find, a few miles down the road, that I feel weak/woozy, etc.
Thanks 
Wow- lots of really BAD advice in this thread! Seems like people are ignoring your post and replying as if you asked if a microdose of .35g is enough to trip balls. How silly...
It's your very first time and you're asking about safety while riding a bicycle! Your plan is perfect - start low, .35g is fine. Gauge how that feels and bump it up in the future if you want more of the feeling. The future is wide open my friend, no need to rush into things. Especially if it's your first time and you plan on riding a bicycle. 
No, bad answer. OP asked:
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What I'm wondering is whether there will be physiological effects
Not at all asking "will I trip balls" but "will I feel physical effects". Answer is most likely not, just like everybody keeps saying. And the threshold effect is well known by many.
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: MrHill]
#18759366 - 08/26/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Parrott said: He found it very uncomfortable, and it scared him away.
Just out of curiosity, what do you mean by "uncomfortable"?
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: as7859]
#18759486 - 08/26/13 12:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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There's no harm in what you plan, but don't expect to get a feeling for what a larger dose is like. On that dose I usually feel a little bit yawny, might experience extremely subtle changes in perception of brightness of colors, and might get a tiny bit emotionally tweaked, either nervous, glad or sad, or all 3 at once, for like an hour tops.
That said, at even slightly larger doses (about 2x, still "nothing") I have sometimes been blown away at unexpectedly strong effects, wanting/needing to lay down. It is extremely unlikely to happen to you the first time at that dose, but the lesson I've learned is that set and setting matters NO MATTER HOW SMALL THE DOSE. No, you don't need to prepare to meet your maker on .35g, but if you go into it without at least a respectful mindset, you might regret it. Even a tiny amount of sacred is sacred.
So if there's any risk, it's that you'll be OVERCONFIDENT that the dose is basically nothing, and therefore not worthy of you approaching with respect.
My first dose was 2.5g, and I rode a bicycle. In retrospect, I was lucky nothing bad happened. Physical control of the bike was no problem, but being in public where there's no control over the social environment, well, I could have gotten into very uncomfortable situations. I would never try that now.
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: otherwhitemeat]
#18759521 - 08/26/13 12:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: Sagescruffy]
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: otherwhitemeat]
#18759726 - 08/26/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Even a tiny amount of sacred is sacred.
So true. It's why I don't do small doses very often - you can feel the impulse to go there, but lack the propulsion. 
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: healing]
#18760243 - 08/26/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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.35g are you serious? You aren't going to feel much, and should probably not eat for 5 hours prior. Still, you won't get visuals at .35 and it might be frustrating wanting more. i suggest ATLEAST half eighth.
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Harrishroom said: Alright alright, there's nothing wrong with small doses, especially since one can't know what to expect. But you are probably overestimating them, I say go for 1 gram, I would imagine it is impossible to have the infamous "bad trip" on that small of a dose.
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Thisfire said: As everyone's saying, you probably won't notice much of anything. That's a very, very low dose. 1 Gram for me barely produces any effects.
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healing said: My first dose was 3.5g. Good trip, but a little confusing. I found my sweet-spot at 2.5g. Full on trip, some OEVs, good CEVs, nice headspace, not confusing.
I would recommend 2g for a first timer. 0.35g is a waste of mushrooms. You won't feel anything.
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: s240779]
#18760688 - 08/26/13 05:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Parrott said: He found it very uncomfortable, and it scared him away.
Just out of curiosity, what do you mean by "uncomfortable"?
Anxiety, insomnia, weird body load. Basically he got in that in between state and didn't like it. It's a weird place to be. Basically stuck in the come up for a few hours.
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: MrHill]
#18760732 - 08/26/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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OP will likely feel anywhere between nothing and a very light body buzz from 0.35g - better off with 1-1.5g in a controlled environment to test your tolerance.
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: MrHill]
#18760771 - 08/26/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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The problem I have is that I have no one to take them with. My only real option at this point in time is to do it outside (I wouldn't want to do it just sitting in my room myself; I just feel depressed sitting in my room as it is sober so I don't think it's the right setting then!) and I wouldn't want to end up tripping balls, on my own, outside and my first time, with no one to reassure me, etc.
If I actually had friends to take them with I'd happily take them indoors somewhere and try a stronger dose for my first time.
So there's just all these things for me to think about. Perhaps I am just being a coward though - I've read plenty of trip reports of people taking 1g+ for their first time on their own just sitting in their room! But I'm unsure. I mean, I get very anxious on just weed when thinking of existence and stuff like that. I have no doubt that reality, existence, identity - amongst many other philosophical issues - would be on my mind, and I'm just worried it might be somehow scary.
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Re: Question about very low dose of psilocybin [Re: as7859]
#18760817 - 08/26/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I do low doses from time to time and enjoy them... That said, I've been on the other side too. Eaten way too many and scared the shit out of me.
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as7859 said: The problem I have is that I have no one to take them with. My only real option at this point in time is to do it outside (I wouldn't want to do it just sitting in my room myself; I just feel depressed sitting in my room as it is sober so I don't think it's the right setting then!) and I wouldn't want to end up tripping balls, on my own, outside and my first time, with no one to reassure me, etc.
If I actually had friends to take them with I'd happily take them indoors somewhere and try a stronger dose for my first time.
So there's just all these things for me to think about. Perhaps I am just being a coward though - I've read plenty of trip reports of people taking 1g+ for their first time on their own just sitting in their room! But I'm unsure. I mean, I get very anxious on just weed when thinking of existence and stuff like that. I have no doubt that reality, existence, identity - amongst many other philosophical issues - would be on my mind, and I'm just worried it might be somehow scary.
I can see both sides of the story. I am a little apprehensive to take a large dose around other people. When I trip, I prefer to not have other people project their thoughts and feelings into my mind.Thereis more than enough going on in my own mind to think about than having to worry about communication with others. A silent tripping partner would be my preference if I was going to be around another person. Acid.... completely different story- then I don't care what others project, but it is a very different chemical.
In low doses, I am completely comfortable in public and around other people, but there is certainly more to be desired from a low dose.
If you are eating cubes, 1-.5 would be an ok starting point. BUT, you'll probably want more halfway through.
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