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Just got my A+; What to do now
#18756873 - 08/25/13 08:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wrote both the 220-701 and 220-702 exams today and passed both  So happens to be my first certification as well, pretty happy I got it now since CompTIA is changing the exam layout on august 30th.
Anyone else have their A+? What did you do after?
I'm going to be going to class for Network+ in september, and might read the Security+ textbook to challenge the certification.
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Re: Just got my A+; What to do now [Re: deadwk]
#18757404 - 08/25/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I did Network+ then CCNA after A+. It really depends what your interests are.
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Re: Just got my A+; What to do now [Re: Shroomism]
#18757445 - 08/25/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well my ultimate goal would be doing cryptography, but before I delve into that I feel like I should gain a good understanding of networking.
How did you find the CCNA certification exam?
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Re: Just got my A+; What to do now [Re: deadwk]
#18757457 - 08/25/13 10:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Compared to A+? Very hard.
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Re: Just got my A+; What to do now [Re: Shroomism]
#18757515 - 08/25/13 10:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Really? So far I've found the final exams for CCNA 1, and 2 to be far more easy than any exam, and even the certification exam for A+.
Any suggestions on what to do with my A+? I would like to get a casual job helping to repair computers, or do tech support while I go to college, but I'm sort of at a loss as to where I could go. So far I've searched craigslist and nothing has appeared.
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Re: Just got my A+; What to do now [Re: deadwk]
#18757565 - 08/25/13 10:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah. CCNA was for me.. 15x times harder than A+ and took a lot more training/studying.
Well, A+ is more of a starting point. It should be enough to get you started somewhere doing PC repairs or tech support. You could maybe try Geek Squad if you have a best buy near you, if you have repair experience it shouldn't be too hard to find something.
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Re: Just got my A+; What to do now [Re: Shroomism]
#18757570 - 08/25/13 10:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: Yeah. CCNA was for me.. 15x times harder than A+ and took a lot more training/studying.
Well, A+ is more of a starting point. It should be enough to get you started somewhere doing PC repairs or tech support. You could maybe try Geek Squad if you have a best buy near you, if you have repair experience it shouldn't be too hard to find something.
Awesome, I'll check it out; Yea I don't plan on building a career solely on my A+, just decided to get it in the meantime.
Thanks man
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Re: Just got my A+; What to do now [Re: deadwk]
#18758110 - 08/26/13 12:54 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cryptography? Shouldn't you just study math then?
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Re: Just got my A+; What to do now [Re: koraks]
#18758194 - 08/26/13 01:20 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Far from it. Cryptography would require a pretty in-depth extensive knowledge of network security. Math certainly doesn't hurt.. and algorithms, but heavy networking and computer science knowledge is a pretty hard requirement.
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Re: Just got my A+; What to do now [Re: koraks]
#18759602 - 08/26/13 01:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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koraks said: Cryptography? Shouldn't you just study math then?
No, math/calculus will help with creating algorithms, but you need to know about network security.
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Re: Just got my A+; What to do now [Re: Shroomism]
#18759761 - 08/26/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: Yeah. CCNA was for me.. 15x times harder than A+ and took a lot more training/studying.
Well, A+ is more of a starting point. It should be enough to get you started somewhere doing PC repairs or tech support. You could maybe try Geek Squad if you have a best buy near you, if you have repair experience it shouldn't be too hard to find something.
Are you guys arguing how easy the virtual environment and multiple test questions are for classes such as A+, Network +, Mcitp, and Ccna? Or how difficult implementing those concepts in reality is in a business situation in real life etc. load balancing d.n.s. propagation name servers logging into routers dealing with quad sockets raid etc.?
Those tests can be easy or hard as shit depending on how much someone already knows about network input/output etc.
A+ is a dumb class that won't even teach you how to put a hard drive, motherboard, case, graphics or other expansion i/o card, usb, ram, processor, heat sink fan, dvd drive, etc. together or write an operating system to a partition on a hard drive from an image file. Networking is the concept of multiple computers in a LAN or WAN using an internal local server or d.n.s. server trading files with packet exchange etc. and the security and direction of such files, but much more so the speed and reliability and updating of such features.
Then there is code writing, which can deal with anything as low as compiled code, api libraries, the actual core or kernel, the addressed input files, computing etc. or html and css which is basically just style and marking gui for a browser which streams in the data. Now tests can be hard, and seem easier if you have a lot of experience with what's on the test. Or those tests can just seem hard period, as they are very alluding.
cryptology is not actually that difficult:
in theory, it's very simple. If you are thinking of getting into a field that requires cryptology, I would say it's doubtful anyone is going to pay you to understand cryptology because it's just a system of characters to scramble the information that is sent, and an encryption key that de encrypts all the corresponding characters is needed when the data is transported from point a to point b. Either from one network device to another, or from one piece of hardware to another, for example, an encryption key to log in to your hard drive and boot the OS.
Now if you REALLY want to get into a field of cryptology that PAYS you well, I'd suggest:
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/06/quantum-cryptography-hack/
Quantum cryptography, which generally requires a degree in physics, quantum physics, and a bright engineering mind, to apply concepts such as simple character scrambling, to more complex scientific devices, is something I barely understand. It's more complex encryption engineering then simply encrypting a few characters for a password that is needed to access a file system or send a message.
All I know of encryption is the ability to scramble a message to a set of numbers/letters/characters that an encryption key is needed on the other side to re write it. But that is the oldest trick in the book. Implementing it brand new ways involving quantum physics so that the encryption key set can't be recovered by anyone except the next user that has it, is a much more complex activity.
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