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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: ghostinthemist]
    #18755523 - 08/25/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Going to be straight to the point with you ZIG.  These two go around flaming on people all the time read there posts.  They leave a bad rating to anyone that disagrees with them and like to gang up on posters.  They have almost no way to back up there claims or suggestions but with the few pics and grows that they may or may not have really done.  If there is no TC popping up in here to correct whats being said then the original answers you got were correct.  If you need RR to give you advise on the thread just ask him for his 2 cents.  Every fight needs a ref and one that dosen't know the rules shouldn't be put in the middle.  I try to do as little flaming as possible but some people just want to think there right without having a way to back up what they are saying.  If you think im wrong about opening a substrate before full colonization prove me wrong with info and facts not fuckery.  Zig i hope this goes well for you and that it is just myce


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: llama_police]
    #18755529 - 08/25/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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When is someone just going to ban this troll?



Never.  I bring more good info and the mods have already expressed how they feel about you to me.


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: ghostinthemist]
    #18755557 - 08/25/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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When is someone just going to ban this troll?



Never.  I bring more good info and the mods have already expressed how they feel about you to me.




Care to share?

I generally won't add anything to a thread unless I know what I am talking about. I am well aware of the fact that I don't know everything and therefore spend more time learning from others rather than pontificating absent knowledge. Or, I will pipe up when someone's being a dick. You may have noticed in your chicken coffin thread that I was offering some assistance with helping people understand your poor grasp on the English language but then you continued to be a dick to me. Sure, you may know what you're doing and have years of experience, but you make all sorts of stupid claims and give bad advice, then troll anyone who disagrees with you.


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: llama_police]
    #18755706 - 08/25/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

quote the bad advise and the and stupid claims


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: ghostinthemist]
    #18755714 - 08/25/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

and quit claiming me to know everything i've never said that i am willing to let bygones be bygones.  Just criticize critically and pm me if you think i am wrong and we can argue it out like people that want to learn


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18755719 - 08/25/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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quote the bad advise and the and stupid claims



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It looks like colonizing myce but if you have been prematurely opening your bin you maybe looking at a contaminant



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You are uneducated, you go into threads and give horrible advise. NEVER open up a substrate before it's fully colonized. 



Why not?

Please elaborate on what you read might happen if you do.




You have yet to elaborate on what opening the tub prematurely can do.

The question should be what credible advice have you given in this thread?

If the substrate is properly pasteurized, and the spawn was fully colonized, they are both contam resistant.

Now explain your theory.


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18755832 - 08/25/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Just for the record I have only given out 2 bad ratings on the shroomery. One to oldham and one to ghostinthemidst. I don't even know why I am posting this. Most of you guys know better


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18756159 - 08/25/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You still have no justification to the rating you gave me none of the info i gave out was incorrect


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: ghostinthemist]
    #18756174 - 08/25/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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You still have no justification to the rating you gave me none of the info i gave out was incorrect



Except for what I pointed out....let's not forget about that.


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18756747 - 08/25/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Lets not forget about this
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18742468/page/1

My rating was justified. It is not set in stone and can be changed. Quit trolling the cult forum and giving out bunk info and I will change it


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18756994 - 08/25/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Lets not forget about this
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18742468/page/1

My rating was justified. It is not set in stone and can be changed. Quit trolling the cult forum and giving out bunk info and I will change it



what bunk info i asked you to produce you just keep talking


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: ghostinthemist]
    #18757284 - 08/25/13 09:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Wow...ghost, until you can explain why you think opening a bulk substrate before 100% is going to instantly contam the substrate, you have no room to talk.

It's like you're a fucking child.

Explain your logic bro....it's seriously not that hard.

You keep asking what bunk info are we talking about, and we keep pointing it out and asking for you to elaborate, but you keep going around in circles.

Please explain how the properly pasteurized substrate will contam when you peek, but not when spawned in open air.


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18757367 - 08/25/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Alright it's time to bring this forum back to its normal direction... So after reviewing all the information I could I have made these conclusions of what went wrong and how I'm going to go about fixing them...

I cased the grains on Sunday.... On monday I began to prepare the SGFC for them so that way I could dial it in before the casings were ready... Well after I prepared it, I went into a beginners "high" and got over excited by checking on the pans with casings. Well, when I saw the first sign of mycelium breaking the surface, I was too excited, and decided to "expose the substrate to open air." So yes, I exposed my uncolonized substrate to fruiting conditions. The biggest mistake I made.
So I've learned from this huge mistake and am taking actions to fix it. I am going to watch the casings for a few more days to see if they fruit or the trichoderma takes over. Or whatever is in there... Let me describe the pan to you... So there's very "snowy fluffy" myeclium growth over the entire pan and basically in certain spots there's "hyphal knots" (I'm new so maybe they are?). Well the hyphal knots have turned orangish in certain places while certain spots have actually begun to turn a bluish green (What I believe to be trich). There's also yellowish outline to the orangish spots too. What do you guys think this is?


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: ziggity]
    #18757402 - 08/25/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)



There's the pan in question if anyone can tell with how shitty quality it is with my phone camera. It's an Motorola razr tho so it's decent for it being a phone.


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: ziggity]
    #18757421 - 08/25/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

A contamination probably. Any color but white mycelium = not good. I have seen bulk subs covered in metabolites fruit before so I'm scared to say. Have to wait until someone with more experience than me chimes in

Btw sorry about this mess on your thread. I should have never responded to it. My bad


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18757433 - 08/25/13 10:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I was on my phone. I just got on my pc and looked at it. It doesn't look bad to me. My screen sucks though. I'm at work


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18757477 - 08/25/13 10:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

That's what happened to my B+ bag grow a buddy gave to me.  I exposed it too early


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: ghostinthemist]
    #18757495 - 08/25/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I mean could the greenish/blue spots be bruising but since I see it under 6500k light, it looks green instead of blue? You get what I'm saying with the way our eyes "illusion" us under certain spectrums.

And also maybe the orangish yellow is just metabolites?

What do you guys think? The bluish green is only on one pan and that pan got too heavily misted on the first one by accident. How quick would Trich take over and start to really sporulate and show itself? It's been exposed 6+ days.


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: ziggity]
    #18757532 - 08/25/13 10:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Trich it is....sorry man.  The yellowing the greening is all things i have had happen before destroy it before it gets real bad or go bury it.


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: ghostinthemist]
    #18758274 - 08/26/13 01:58 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Trich it is....sorry man.  The yellowing the greening is all things i have had happen before destroy it before it gets real bad or go bury it.




Although it pains me a little to say it, I think this guy's right with this assessment. That looks like trich developing. Are the "hyphal knots" you're referring to clustered and kind of shiny/glossy and bright white? If so, that's going to explode into green in a day or so. I would find it hard to believe that brief early exposure to air is going to cause an outbreak of that magnitude. You probably had a contaminated substrate, so go back and double check your pasteurisation method.


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