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Is this Cobweb?
    #18753175 - 08/24/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

So I cased some grains and it's just about to pin and I'm a bit worried about one part of my pan..


That at first appeared to be a good hyphal knot but has turned a bluish, greyish color.


You can see a little bit to the right of that "hyphal knot" there's what appears to be stringy cobwebby strands that don't really appear like the rest of the mycelium.


That's the closest shot I can get with best overall quality.

Does this appear to be cobweb and will it affect the rest of the pan because the rest of the pan looks just fine turning yellow with a shit ton of hyphal knots forming? I fresh air exchange, when I'm home at least 10 hours a day, every one to two hours so I just don't think it would be cobweb cuz it likes stale air... 



:aweyeah:  my first time fruiting!!!:mushroom2:


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: ziggity]
    #18753181 - 08/24/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: ziggity]
    #18753253 - 08/24/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It looks like colonizing myce but if you have been prematurely opening your bin you maybe looking at a contaminant


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: ziggity]
    #18753369 - 08/24/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: abltsandwich]
    #18753497 - 08/24/13 11:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Doesn't look like it. Best I can describe cobweb is like loose polyfill with water on it. You will know if its cobweb


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: ghostinthemist]
    #18754540 - 08/25/13 09:23 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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It looks like colonizing myce but if you have been prematurely opening your bin you maybe looking at a contaminant



You are forgetting that is was spawned in the open air, and there are already possibly millions of contams mixed in with the substrate already.

If it was going to contam, it is going to contam.

Peeking every now and then will not hurt.


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: ghostinthemist]
    #18754635 - 08/25/13 10:07 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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It looks like colonizing myce but if you have been prematurely opening your bin you maybe looking at a contaminant




I see people saying stuff like this everyday. Where are you getting this info? Are you just making it up?


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18754659 - 08/25/13 10:18 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Alright so I'm thinking it might be much worse than simple cobweb. Last night I had noticed that the color of the mycelium was changing to a dark hue which I was suspecting that pinning may be soon. But when I woke up to check on them today I noticed that one of the pans is actually turning a bluish/green color in some spots on the pan. This pan was also accidentally heavily misted so there was some damage to the mycelium network due to that. I can't post pics because my camera isn't good enough to pick up the colors. Does this bluish green sound like it could be trich or something else?


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: ziggity]
    #18754677 - 08/25/13 10:24 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Trich is really really green. Bruising is more of a blue sometimes with a little green tint


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18754685 - 08/25/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Trich will start off pure white and then sporilate green.

Cobweb looks like grey :trollz: hair, and grows super fucking fast.


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18754747 - 08/25/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I'll get some pictures and let's see if that helps you guys out... I'll try my best to get some zoom in's and such and try to bring the best quality


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: ziggity]
    #18754788 - 08/25/13 11:03 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)















So there's the best pictures I could get with the best quality...

So I have question based on NotaHacker420's reply. So I cased them on last sunday (1 week ago) and after one day (monday) the mycelium was already breaching the surface of the coir/verm substrate so I put them in fruiting conditions. Since then the mycelium has been very white and fluffy in the middle of the pan with longer rhizomorphic growth on the outskirts which doesn't appear as white and fluffy. Well now those white and fluffy spots have hyphal knotted and are starting to turn tannish in color which is what I assume is primordia and pin formation right? or has that "white fluffy" stuff just been trich waiting to sporulate? The reason why I don't think it's trich though is because wouldn't trich start turning bluish greenish and not tannish yellowish?


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18755386 - 08/25/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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ghostinthemist said:
It looks like colonizing myce but if you have been prematurely opening your bin you maybe looking at a contaminant




I see people saying stuff like this everyday. Where are you getting this info? Are you just making it up?





You are uneducated, you go into threads and give horrible advise.  NEVER open up a substrate before it's fully colonized.  Common sense stuff.  Thats whey there is a filter layer on brf cakes.  You need to leave it closed to outside contams till it's in a fruiting stage then you are less likely to see contams taking over.  Also Psilly will give you a bad rating if you disagree with him so watch out!  And your seeing people saying this everyday and you disagree.  It's called a consensus....or a fact


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: ghostinthemist]
    #18755449 - 08/25/13 02:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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You are uneducated, you go into threads and give horrible advise. NEVER open up a substrate before it's fully colonized. 



Why not?

Please elaborate on what you read might happen if you do.

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Thats whey there is a filter layer on brf cakes.  You need to leave it closed to outside contams till it's in a fruiting stage then you are less likely to see contams taking over.



What you are saying here makes YOU sound uneducated.

No one here is talking about BRF cakes and dry verm layers.

Not to mention the dry verm layer has nothing to do with why we wait until full colonization to fruit.

We spawn our tubs in open air, so we are introducing millions of contams into it then.

If properly pasteurized, the substrate material is contam resistant, just like the fully colonized grains.

Opening up a bulk substrate/cased grain tray to peek really quick, even if it's not fully colonized, will do nothing bad.

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And your seeing people saying this everyday and you disagree.  It's called a consensus....or a fact



And the consensus is that opening a tub before full colonization will not hinder it in any way.


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18755461 - 08/25/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hacker ghost is a bigger troll than oldham. Just ignore


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: ghostinthemist]
    #18755462 - 08/25/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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How can trich infect a 100% colonized jar of mycellium???

Also, the trich showed up like 5 days after I put the tub in fruiting condition. Is it a normal amount of time for trich to show up?


RogerRabbit said:
Obviously contaminated spawn.
RR



Trich won't go from spores to sporulation in five days.  Your spawn was contaminated and you just didn't know.
RR


This could be your issue.  My last fight with trich was with what i thought was a fully colonized HpOO and rye grain mix.  I started noticing "whit fuzzy stuff" figured it was new myce.  Then i was watering it and bumped it and the center was yellowed and mushy.  I took it to my sink and began to rinse the casing off.  I ended up having a giant trich egg!  The outside was still mostly healthy so semi healthy myce but the inside was gone.  This was my fault.  I exposed a not fully colonized substrate to open air causing it to contaminate.  This is why you do not open your mono, bag, jar before full consolidation.  This is not made up it is fact that is based on hands on study and research done on this site.  As well as my failures and successes.


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18755472 - 08/25/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Hacker ghost is a bigger troll than oldham. Just ignore



There with the backhanded words.  I have only given information that i can back up with information on this site.  You want this OP to just follow what you think because...no justification.  Then attack me when you are unable to back up your suggestions.  I can back up what i say.  You can just be a butthurt 15 year old


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18755480 - 08/25/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Hacker ghost is a bigger troll than oldham. Just ignore




QFT!


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: llama_police]
    #18755492 - 08/25/13 02:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Hacker ghost is a bigger troll than oldham. Just ignore




QFT!



These guys butt buddies.  The mod told me he is an ass and that i should just ignore him.


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Re: Is this Cobweb? [Re: ghostinthemist]
    #18755512 - 08/25/13 02:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

When is someone just going to ban this troll?


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