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Dual SGFC. First grow.
    #18753917 - 08/25/13 02:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I started this thread because I had a couple questions about my SGFC's but I thought I'd morph it into (yes, another) newbie grow log, since I feel I've already posted too many newbie questions in the cultivation forum and there's no point in flooding the forum with another "Newbie Grow Log" post.

I will update with pictures as my grow progresses.

I apologize if the images are too large, I'm using a 36" TV for my computer screen so they might be gigantic with a lower screen resolution.




I need some advice on my fruiting setup, I plan to use 2 55-qt Sterlite's for my SGFC's.



The SGFC's will be this close to each other where I plan to put them for fruiting and I was thinking I would hang the 6500k bulb in between the two.

Is this enough space between FC's and is the light bulb too close to the FC's?
I also was pondering whether or not I should get two more light bulbs to place on the outsides of the FC's with one remaining in the middle. Perhaps that idea would be lighting overkill, I just feel like my cakes will only fruit on the side with the light and be bare on the other side if I were to use 1 bulb.

Any suggestions?


Edited by Sparchitect (08/28/13 04:19 PM)


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Sparchitect]
    #18754057 - 08/25/13 04:21 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Go get the 110 qt all clear sterilite tub and just run one tub instead of 2. It is better to have a clear lid and running one tub instead of 2 is a win in my book. A lot of people including myself has used that tub with much success


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Stromrider]
    #18754144 - 08/25/13 05:57 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Since you don't have clear lids, I'd run with the three bulb idea.


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Stromrider]
    #18755000 - 08/25/13 12:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Go get the 110 qt all clear sterilite tub and just run one tub instead of 2. It is better to have a clear lid and running one tub instead of 2 is a win in my book. A lot of people including myself has used that tub with much success




Great advice, thank you guys. Hmmmm I'm on schedule to dunk tomorrow so I couldn't order the 110qt online, you think Home Depot or Lowes would have the exact tub your referring too?

If I can't find that 110qt I'm going to end up trying the 3 bulb idea.


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Sparchitect]
    #18755005 - 08/25/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Psilly! Did you change your avatar?! I love weiners! I have a dapple dachshund =D


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Sparchitect]
    #18755019 - 08/25/13 12:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I dunno if it affects it too much but those bulbs while being fluorescent still put out some heat.  Might throw off your humidity if it's that close?  Then again I'm paranoid.  :smile:


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: incubescence]
    #18755028 - 08/25/13 12:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I dunno if it affects it too much but those bulbs while being fluorescent still put out some heat.  Might throw off your humidity if it's that close?  Then again I'm paranoid.  :smile:




No your absolutely right, that's why I was worried the bulb would be to close to the SGFC's. Wouldn't want it to heat them up too much. I've only ran the bulb for a couple minutes to check it worked and that thing gets hot quick.


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Sparchitect]
    #18755083 - 08/25/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The opaque lid and transparent tub will provide more than enough light, no problem.

I would use them as is.

A smaller tub will hold conditions better than a large one.

Just use a little CFL bulb in a regular lamp. 6500k spectrum. Or if you have a ceiling fixture, just use that.


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18755157 - 08/25/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The opaque lid and transparent tub will provide more than enough light, no problem.

I would use them as is.

A smaller tub will hold conditions better than a large one.

Just use a little CFL bulb in a regular lamp. 6500k spectrum. Or if you have a ceiling fixture, just use that.




Got the 6500k bulb, I was planning on just hanging it from an extension cord like this:


Do you think that would work Frank?


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Sparchitect]
    #18755333 - 08/25/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Psilly! Did you change your avatar?! I love weiners! I have a dapple dachshund =D




I did :smile: So you like my wiener do you! :grin: That is my partner Jake


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18755406 - 08/25/13 02:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The opaque lid and transparent tub will provide more than enough light, no problem.

I would use them as is.

A smaller tub will hold conditions better than a large one.

Just use a little CFL bulb in a regular lamp. 6500k spectrum. Or if you have a ceiling fixture, just use that.




Personally I really like having a clear lid. I can look down in there and that makes me happy. I would also much prefer to run one 110 qt sgfc than 2 smaller ones. I had good luck with mine and I have seen others have good luck as well. You have already bought and made the tubs and if Frank says they will work fine I would trust his judgement. He has never steered me wrong before.

As for the lighting fixture... Lowes, walmart, and several other hardware stores sell these little silver work lights that work great. They can be hung from the ceiling or clamped onto something. You can use regular cfl bulbs in them. They are around $6



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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Stromrider]
    #18758315 - 08/26/13 02:23 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

UPDATE:

I used these toothpicks with tallys so I knew which cake was which while dunking.

Funny looking growth off of one of the cakes. I removed all pins larger than 3/8".

6 cakes floatin' about their business.

Pins came out to 10.85 grams wet.


I chose to pick the pins instead of leaving them on for the dunk and roll. It'll be fun to feed them to my dog.

^^ That was a joke.


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Sparchitect]
    #18758422 - 08/26/13 03:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Should have left the pins on. They would have grown to full size shrooms but since you have already done it go ahead and eat them all and report back to me with results :grin:


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Stromrider]
    #18759346 - 08/26/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I just figured they might get rotten from sitting in water for 24 hours. Or they might fall off or something along those lines.
It's only a gram dry so I'm going to hold off until I have actual fruits. I haven't shroomed in 3 years so I know that 1g would effect me but I just want to make my first trip in 3 years a good one.


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Sparchitect]
    #18759358 - 08/26/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Those toothpicks were pretty clever. Can't believe I didn't think of that when I dunked mine haha. Will keep it in mind for next time. =)


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Kjetterfaen]
    #18759429 - 08/26/13 12:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hey Psilly, weiner power:



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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Sparchitect]
    #18759471 - 08/26/13 12:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

omfg dem pets.. Too cute :laugh:


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: tlien]
    #18760832 - 08/26/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

UPDATE:

6 Am BRF cakes birthed into SGFC with 4.75" of perlite.



Right now I'm maintaining 94% humidity and 77 degrees Fahrenheit.

6500k bulb is on a 12/12 timer.
Now just misting and fanning all the way to mushroom land!11!!!1one!1

Thought? Suggestions?

EDIT: Fixed picture.


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Sparchitect]
    #18761031 - 08/26/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

They'll be getting tons of light even if you move that lamp overhead.

Looks good!

:goodluck:


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Sparchitect]
    #18761087 - 08/26/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Hey Psilly, weiner power:






That is an absolutely beautiful dapple! I want to get my Jake a dapple girlfriend :-)


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18761971 - 08/26/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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They'll be getting tons of light even if you move that lamp overhead.

Looks good!

:goodluck:




Thanks frank!


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Sparchitect]
    #18765486 - 08/27/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

UPDATE:

Currently dunking my 6 PESA cakes.

Here's a pic of my fruiting setup. The SGFC on the left has my 6 Amazon cakes and the SGFC on the right is empty until I fill it with perlite and roll the cakes tomorrow!



I must say, Perlite is amazing! Keeping 99% humidity is so simple!
I misted before bed last night and expected it to drop to around 70% but it was at 88% after 8 hours!

EDIT: Also, I had a question. Is it true that I can buy a decent (analog) hygrometer at a smoke shop? I have that Accurite digital hygrometer that's in the picture but I've read digital is crap so I want to get an analog one for my other SGFC.


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Sparchitect]
    #18765736 - 08/27/13 08:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah go to cigar shop. You can get an analog adjustable hygrometer at any cigar shop


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Stromrider]
    #18765819 - 08/27/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah go to cigar shop. You can get an analog adjustable hygrometer at any cigar shop




Oh okay I was confused I was thinking a head shop but that makes sense that cigar shops would have them.
Thanks brotha.


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Sparchitect]
    #18766153 - 08/27/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Anytime!

There are 2 ways to calibrate your manual hygrometer. Most people on here use the wet towel method. I perfer the bottle cap full of saltwater in a ziplock bag method. It is supposed to be more accurate. There is a good how to video about it on YouTube. Just type in how to calibrate hygrometer


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Stromrider]
    #18766156 - 08/27/13 09:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The salt water thing, it is less accurate.

Use the wet towel :thumbup:

IMO a hygrometer is unnecessary, the mushies will tell you what they need.


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18766356 - 08/27/13 10:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I can definitely agree with no need for a hygrometer. Thought I needed one at first in my sgfc but after seeing it sit on 100 percent for 2 weeks I didn't see any point anymore


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Stromrider]
    #18766361 - 08/27/13 10:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The salt test is for calibrating it to around 75%.

What you want to do is the wet towel method, which calibrates it to the highest point possible.

After an hour wrapped in a towel, if it does not say 99-100%, make it.


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: PussyFart]
    #18766616 - 08/27/13 11:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I used the salt method. Set it to 75. Then I put it in my sgfc and it set there pegged on 100 percent until I finally decided I didn't need it anymore. Worked ok for me. Never tried the towel method


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Stromrider]
    #18766727 - 08/28/13 12:14 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah true that, there really is no point if your doing everything correctly. Aren't they like $20-$30 anyways? I'm gunna ditch that idea because I'm already getting a feel for how it should be using the digital one.

Good advice.


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Sparchitect]
    #18767031 - 08/28/13 02:17 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Capital idea!


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Re: Dual SGFC lighting setup advice needed. [Re: Stromrider]
    #18769101 - 08/28/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

UPDATE:

Here's the setup now:


Got the 6 PESA BRF cakes into SGFC(B) with 4.75" of perlite.


SGFC(A) is already pinning less that 48hrs later. Is this okay? I've read that it should take about a week to start pinning. I should mention that this amazon syringe seems MUCH more aggressive than the PESA one. It colonized faster, and grew a lot of in vitro pins during consolidation.

Nevertheless, here's a pic of the biggest pin I could find on the Amazon cakes:


I'm misting with distilled water using one of these Zep© Professional Sprayers. They work great for window tinting (one of my trades) but I've messed around a lot with trying to adjust the nozzle to get the finest mist possible but it will still shoot out a lot of big drops along with the fine mist.
I could do fine with this for misting but I was wondering if anyone has a recommendation on a specific sprayer that can get a really good misting setting?



I was thinking of possibly picking up one of these bad boys:


Any thoughts/advice/suggestions/criticisms/comments/trolls/encouraging words?


Edited by Sparchitect (08/28/13 04:18 PM)


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Re: Dual SGFC. First grow. [Re: Sparchitect]
    #21639408 - 05/05/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I apologize if the images are too large, I'm using a 36" TV for my computer screen so they might be gigantic with a lower screen resolution.





You do realize that your TV doesnt have way higher resolution just because its larger than the average monitor dont you?  If anything its probably 720p but EVEN IF ITS 1080p, thats what the rest of us have, and then some.

Your picture was not/would not be larger just because your screen is larger you xbro moron.


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Re: Dual SGFC. First grow. [Re: janemba]
    #21639451 - 05/05/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I apologize if the images are too large, I'm using a 36" TV for my computer screen so they might be gigantic with a lower screen resolution.





You do realize that your TV doesnt have way higher resolution just because its larger than the average monitor dont you?  If anything its probably 720p but EVEN IF ITS 1080p, thats what the rest of us have, and then some.

Your picture was not/would not be larger just because your screen is larger you xbro moron.



Speaking of morons, this thread is almost 2 years old and OP hasn't been seen in nearly a month.


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