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OfflinePatlal
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The U.S.A * 4
    #18753023 - 08/24/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Back when I was a kid, maybe between 6 to 15 years olds, I used to think that the USA was the shit. You guys had everything, you were the coolest guys on the planet. You had the most money, the biggest armies, the best laws, the respect, the influence. I was looking up to you guys and I wishing Canada was as awesome as you are. I thought of Canada as the younger brother of the US. You walked on the moon, you had beaten Russia, you had all the awesome music groups and Hollywood was pumping out amazing movies. I even remember a drawing I did for art class, it was a F16 shooting a missile a the enemy with big letters on the tail saying USAF. Overall, I was like: America, Fuck Yeah!!!

Now I 16 years old, the twin towers fell, I remember, I was at my high school, watching TV before class, the news kept on showing the WTC is flames. It was tragic. From there, the Americans started to freak out. You guys decided to tighten security everywhere. The borders, the airport, shipyards, law enforcement, everything. Then came a war declared for no reason against Irak and another war agaisnt terrorism. That's when shit started to fall apart. I started losing respect for the US, I understood that they had lost a couple thousand souls in NY, but the reaction was horrible. Paranoia. Fear. You were caught off guard. America didn't know how to react. From then, it became: America, Fuck....

Ever since, its been a downhill slope. You lost the respect, you lost the money, you lost the courage, the power. You collapsed. Now I look at you as the older brother, the fuck up of the family. I'm no longer proud... You deceived me. Now I'm heartbroken.

But what this being said, I can still say that America makes the best TV shows. America still has the best pro athletes on earth. America still has the best corporations, the best willpower and the best fucking military the earth has ever seen. Goddamit America, get back up and throw another punch, your arms are long enough to boxe with god.



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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Patlal] * 3
    #18753034 - 08/24/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18753041 - 08/24/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Patlal] * 4
    #18753046 - 08/24/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Now I 16 years old, the twin towers fell, I remember, I was at my high school, watching TV before class, the news kept on showing the WTC is flames. It was tragic. From there, the Americans started to freak out. You guys decided to tighten security everywhere. The borders, the airport, shipyards, law enforcement, everything. Then came a war declared for no reason against Irak and another war agaisnt terrorism. That's when shit started to fall apart. I started losing respect for the US, I understood that they had lost a couple thousand souls in NY, but the reaction was horrible. Paranoia. Fear. You were caught off guard. America didn't know how to react. From then, it became: America, Fuck....






you clearly have no clue what you're taking about


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #18753048 - 08/24/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

In response, we sacrificed liberty for a bit of safety. Looks like the terrorists won that one. :frown:


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #18753051 - 08/24/13 08:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

To be serious though the US is just another country, corrupt but better off than most in the history of the planet as far as that goes. The power this country has is so overbalanced with the rest of the world it puts Rome to shame, if it falls we're all fucked


Not a huge fan of the US myself, I like our past but our culture was perverted by the media from the 70s forward. Mericans are embarrassed by their culture now


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Le_Canard]
    #18753054 - 08/24/13 08:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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ToiletDuk said:
In response, we sacrificed liberty for a bit of safety. Looks like the terrorists won that one. :frown:





what liberty was sacrificed?


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OfflinePatlal
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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #18753055 - 08/24/13 08:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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Patlal said:
Now I 16 years old, the twin towers fell, I remember, I was at my high school, watching TV before class, the news kept on showing the WTC is flames. It was tragic. From there, the Americans started to freak out. You guys decided to tighten security everywhere. The borders, the airport, shipyards, law enforcement, everything. Then came a war declared for no reason against Irak and another war agaisnt terrorism. That's when shit started to fall apart. I started losing respect for the US, I understood that they had lost a couple thousand souls in NY, but the reaction was horrible. Paranoia. Fear. You were caught off guard. America didn't know how to react. From then, it became: America, Fuck....






you clearly have no clue what you're taking about




That's because you're still in denial. Its a long and convincing phase, but soon it'll pass and you'll see the truth


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Le_Canard]
    #18753057 - 08/24/13 08:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Patlal]
    #18753063 - 08/24/13 08:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Patlal said:
Now I 16 years old, the twin towers fell, I remember, I was at my high school, watching TV before class, the news kept on showing the WTC is flames. It was tragic. From there, the Americans started to freak out. You guys decided to tighten security everywhere. The borders, the airport, shipyards, law enforcement, everything. Then came a war declared for no reason against Irak and another war agaisnt terrorism. That's when shit started to fall apart. I started losing respect for the US, I understood that they had lost a couple thousand souls in NY, but the reaction was horrible. Paranoia. Fear. You were caught off guard. America didn't know how to react. From then, it became: America, Fuck....






you clearly have no clue what you're taking about




That's because you're still in denial. Its a long and convincing phase, but soon it'll pass and you'll see the truth





um... no, pretty sure I know a bit more about US military actions than a
canadian, pretty sure that americans as a whole didnt tighten security but
that as a knee jerk reaction a bunch of liberal politicians did


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Patlal]
    #18753064 - 08/24/13 08:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

This is why I enjoy reading your threads, OP.

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OfflinePatlal
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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #18753070 - 08/24/13 08:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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ToiletDuk said:
In response, we sacrificed liberty for a bit of safety. Looks like the terrorists won that one. :frown:





what liberty was sacrificed?




You can't blow up a pressure cooker in public anymore... That says it all.


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18753076 - 08/24/13 08:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the vote of confidnce.  (Seriously.)

We're trying to get our shit together.  We promise!

We probably need an intervention.  Too bad world politics is not an E! reality show with producers, directors, writers, and professional actors.  Their business is getting the timing right the first time and acquiring ratings [votes].

Meanwhile, we're about to declare war on Syria . . .

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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #18753080 - 08/24/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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ToiletDuk said:
In response, we sacrificed liberty for a bit of safety. Looks like the terrorists won that one. :frown:





what liberty was sacrificed?




You can't blow up a pressure cooker in public anymore... That says it all.




I miss the old America, when you could rob a bank killing 5 innocent people in the process, and everyone would congratulate you for it. What happened!??!


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #18753084 - 08/24/13 09:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

All I know is that you are always talking about America Patlal.. Why don't you just move here and get it over with all ready?


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Patlal]
    #18753095 - 08/24/13 09:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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ToiletDuk said:
In response, we sacrificed liberty for a bit of safety. Looks like the terrorists won that one. :frown:





what liberty was sacrificed?




You can't blow up a pressure cooker in public anymore... That says it all.





obviously you can because it was done just this year

what liberty was sacrificed?


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #18753103 - 08/24/13 09:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Patlal said:
Now I 16 years old, the twin towers fell, I remember, I was at my high school, watching TV before class, the news kept on showing the WTC is flames. It was tragic. From there, the Americans started to freak out. You guys decided to tighten security everywhere. The borders, the airport, shipyards, law enforcement, everything. Then came a war declared for no reason against Irak and another war agaisnt terrorism. That's when shit started to fall apart. I started losing respect for the US, I understood that they had lost a couple thousand souls in NY, but the reaction was horrible. Paranoia. Fear. You were caught off guard. America didn't know how to react. From then, it became: America, Fuck....






you clearly have no clue what you're taking about




That's because you're still in denial. Its a long and convincing phase, but soon it'll pass and you'll see the truth





um... no, pretty sure I know a bit more about US military actions than a
canadian, pretty sure that americans as a whole didnt tighten security but
that as a knee jerk reaction a bunch of liberal politicians did




Most kids are liberals these days. Especially those who goes to college and university (which is most). They'll out live both you and me. It appears the liberals will rule the future of most countries in the world. Conservatism always seems to be a phase every 20 years. The midlife crisis of politics (badly needed though).

Military actions: when are you guys gonna get involved with syria or egypt or iran or north korea? NOW is your time to shine. You've got 4 GREAT reasons to use the big green machine and you haven't done it yet. You guys need a reason to justify the military budget, you should jump on one of them. You would look like the good guys again.


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: floatingwater]
    #18753109 - 08/24/13 09:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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floatingwater said:
All I know is that you are always talking about America Patlal.. Why don't you just move here and get it over with all ready?




Canadians are actually smarter in comparison to Americans.

But you're American, right? You wouldn't know that.

I'm an American, but i'm a rare breed of American. One who is aware. One who is awake and can see through the smoke and mirrors.


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: YSHServant] * 6
    #18753113 - 08/24/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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YSHServant said:
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floatingwater said:
All I know is that you are always talking about America Patlal.. Why don't you just move here and get it over with all ready?




Canadians are actually smarter in comparison to Americans.

But you're American, right? You wouldn't know that.

I'm an American, but i'm a rare breed of American. One who is aware. One who is awake and can see through the smoke and mirrors.



:lolsy: no you are like many other americans


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: YSHServant] * 2
    #18753121 - 08/24/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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YSHServant said:
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floatingwater said:
All I know is that you are always talking about America Patlal.. Why don't you just move here and get it over with all ready?




Canadians are actually smarter in comparison to Americans.

But you're American, right? You wouldn't know that.

I'm an American, but i'm a rare breed of American. One who is aware. One who is awake and can see through the smoke and mirrors.





I like to think of myself as the dumbest smart guy that I know.


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: floatingwater]
    #18753138 - 08/24/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Gilgamesh18 said:
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YSHServant said:
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floatingwater said:
All I know is that you are always talking about America Patlal.. Why don't you just move here and get it over with all ready?




Canadians are actually smarter in comparison to Americans.

But you're American, right? You wouldn't know that.

I'm an American, but i'm a rare breed of American. One who is aware. One who is awake and can see through the smoke and mirrors.



:lolsy: no you are like many other americans




I swear. You're following me all over the forum. I wonder how long this will keep up before you do something foolish.:lol:


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floatingwater said:
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YSHServant said:
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floatingwater said:
All I know is that you are always talking about America Patlal.. Why don't you just move here and get it over with all ready?




Canadians are actually smarter in comparison to Americans.

But you're American, right? You wouldn't know that.

I'm an American, but i'm a rare breed of American. One who is aware. One who is awake and can see through the smoke and mirrors.





I like to think of myself as the dumbest smart guy that I know.




Point being everything OP said is true word for word.. except the US being able to box God. God would destroy the US without even lifting a finger.


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: YSHServant]
    #18753146 - 08/24/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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YSHServant said:
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Gilgamesh18 said:
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YSHServant said:
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floatingwater said:
All I know is that you are always talking about America Patlal.. Why don't you just move here and get it over with all ready?




Canadians are actually smarter in comparison to Americans.

But you're American, right? You wouldn't know that.

I'm an American, but i'm a rare breed of American. One who is aware. One who is awake and can see through the smoke and mirrors.



:lolsy: no you are like many other americans




I swear. You're following me all over the forum. I wonder how long this will keep up before you do something foolish.:lol:


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floatingwater said:
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YSHServant said:
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floatingwater said:
All I know is that you are always talking about America Patlal.. Why don't you just move here and get it over with all ready?




Canadians are actually smarter in comparison to Americans.

But you're American, right? You wouldn't know that.

I'm an American, but i'm a rare breed of American. One who is aware. One who is awake and can see through the smoke and mirrors.





I like to think of myself as the dumbest smart guy that I know.




Point being everything OP said is true word for word.. except the US being able to box God. God would destroy the US without even lifting a finger.



Following you you are following me :tinfoil:


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #18753173 - 08/24/13 09:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

we can no longer go to the airport without getting ass rapped. cant walk family members to the gate.. shit like that.


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18753176 - 08/24/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Military actions: when are you guys gonna get involved with syria or egypt or iran or north korea? NOW is your time to shine. You've got 4 GREAT reasons to use the big green machine and you haven't done it yet. You guys need a reason to justify the military budget, you should jump on one of them. You would look like the good guys again.







Most Americans are just clueless and following orders, another war is the last thing we need.


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Gilgamesh18] * 3
    #18753205 - 08/24/13 09:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I speculate that America is too far gone to make a recovery, and I hope it's end is very soon.
I was born in America but never considered myself one of them, I've been quite disgusted since childhood.

I often ponder what measures it would take to awake a nation to their ignorance, their gullibility, their egos;
and after years of consideration I have come to the personal conclusion- that it takes death.

No words can be said which will make one realize they have been fooled, that the planet is more important than they are, that they are doing it all wrong.
Only with threat of a great tragedy will everyone become one, but then it will be too late. It is what it is.

Freedom, patriotism, faith, all cause the division of people.


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Tmethyl] * 1
    #18753212 - 08/24/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Tmethyl said:
I speculate that America is too far gone to make a recovery, and I hope it's end is very soon.
I was born in America but never considered myself one of them, I've been quite disgusted since childhood.

I often ponder what measures it would take to awake a nation to their ignorance, their gullibility, their egos;
and after years of consideration I have come to the personal conclusion- that it takes death.

No words can be said which will make one realize they have been fooled, that the planet is more important than they are, that they are doing it all wrong.
Only with threat of a great tragedy will everyone become one, but then it will be too late. It is what it is.

Freedom, patriotism, faith, all cause the division of people.



I'm sorry you feel that way but having travled the world I can say that the US is the best place to live its not perfect but its the closet thing.


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18753248 - 08/24/13 09:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

YSHServant... I think you are over generalizing a little bit.

The thing is that everyone who grows up in america is taught to be proud. Super Proud. We are the best! Land of the free, home of the brave! We will, we will rock you! The championship of baseball is called the World Series for crying out loud, as if no one else in the world is even comparable, you know?

While everyone else is in the world is not only learning their own language but also the english language because that's what america speaks. Everyone else in the world growing up hears about america's ups and downs now a days. The country is constantly in the spot light and more so than ever. All though, I am biased. I've only ever been to two continents and 3 countries so this is purely my opinion. But now a days the world is so connected with the internet that people in america are finally getting a feel for what the rest of the world has to say about us. I remember not knowing jack shit about any other country growing up in the 90s, not because I wasn't smart but because no one was talking about it.

It's a slow process of lifting the veil and letting america truly understand it's place in the global society.

Not just america, but all countries are more connected now than they every have before.


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Tmethyl] * 1
    #18753278 - 08/24/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Tmethyl said:
I speculate that America is too far gone to make a recovery, and I hope it's end is very soon.




That would be the end of the 1st world, don't think you would want it if it came


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Patlal]
    #18753302 - 08/24/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Most kids are liberals these days. Especially those who goes to college and university (which is most). They'll out live both you and me. It appears the liberals will rule the future of most countries in the world. Conservatism always seems to be a phase every 20 years. The midlife crisis of politics (badly needed though).





until they grow up, then they become conservatives

unless they're retarded, then they'll run for public office

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Military actions: when are you guys gonna get involved with syria or egypt or iran or north korea?




why should we.


are you aware that canada, even though they said "NO" officially for their
public, still sent troops to Iraq and canadian naval personnel were even
more numerous with canada sending funds and supplies to support that war

you guys dont have freedom of speech or the press so it's nit like you'd know

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NOW is your time to shine. You've got 4 GREAT reasons to use the big green machine and you haven't done it yet. You guys need a reason to justify the military budget, you should jump on one of them. You would look like the good guys again.





with all the liberal pansies crying about the human rights of egyptians and
syrians you'd believe they'd be volunteering to fly over there and fight
for the shit themselves... where are they, why arent you there since you've
brought it up


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: YSHServant]
    #18753310 - 08/24/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Canadians are actually smarter in comparison to Americans.





lol...


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #18753324 - 08/24/13 10:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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YSHServant said:
Canadians are actually smarter in comparison to Americans.





lol...




Says the smartest guy in america


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Patlal]
    #18753339 - 08/24/13 10:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Canada and the US are really similar. Almost identical. It's like two brothers who don't want to admit how much they have in common.

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Military actions: when are you guys gonna get involved with syria or egypt or iran or north korea? NOW is your time to shine. You've got 4 GREAT reasons to use the big green machine and you haven't done it yet. You guys need a reason to justify the military budget, you should jump on one of them. You would look like the good guys again.




Really? That's not what we heard when we took out Saddam Hussein who was a brutal military dictator who regularly threatened the US and invaded other countries and used chemical weapons on civilians.

I don't support that war, but make no mistake, Iraq under Saddam Hussein was just as bad or worse than the governments of North Korea, Iran, and Syria. We didn't get any kind of thanks for taking him out even though Iraq was every bit just as bad.


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Really? That's not what we heard when we took out Saddam Hussein who was a brutal military dictator who regularly threatened the US and invaded other countries and used chemical weapons on civilians.

I don't support that war, but make no mistake, Iraq under Saddam Hussein was just as bad or worse than the governments of North Korea, Iran, and Syria. We didn't get any kind of thanks for taking him out even though Iraq was every bit just as bad.





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Im so happy to live in the US. Despite the problems and corruption we read about, its nowhere near as bad as most other countries. At any time as a US resident I have the potential to earn enough money to live comfortably for the rest of my life. Totally grateful to live in a country that provides me that possibility along with a reasonable level of personal safety and freedoms.


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    #18753405 - 08/24/13 10:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The real problem in the US is the media.
Hopefully the NFL will get a contract with google and we can watch networks crumble as people cancel cable left and right.


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    #18753427 - 08/24/13 10:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The US didn't collapse as you put it patlal.
There's been some downfall over the last decade, but not the way you phrased it. We continue to be the most powerful country in the world regardless of our debt.

I believe the US is a very slow turn in the economy for the better. The housing market has gone up substantially over the past year. Unemployment has dropped. We aren't currently involved in a war except the war on drugs.

Even the war on drugs is going to come to an end in the future as you can see by the numerous states that have legalized medicinal cannabis. As well as the states that have decriminalized cannabis possession altogether.

We still produce the best movies, shows, and music in the world. That's not my opinion, just going by statistics of how much we earn in the entertainment industry compared to other countries.

I understand most of the world has a bad view of America due to the media, but it's really a lot better than what you hear.

I have nothing against Canada even though I make stereotypical jokes about your nation and people all the time, it's purely kidding around. The only thing I can really say is come down here to see for yourself if this isn't still a great country. I truly believe it is. :ameridillo:

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YSHServant... I think you are over generalizing a little bit.

The thing is that everyone who grows up in america is taught to be proud. Super Proud. We are the best! Land of the free, home of the brave! We will, we will rock you! The championship of baseball is called the World Series for crying out loud, as if no one else in the world is even comparable, you know?

While everyone else is in the world is not only learning their own language but also the english language because that's what america speaks. Everyone else in the world growing up hears about america's ups and downs now a days. The country is constantly in the spot light and more so than ever. All though, I am biased. I've only ever been to two continents and 3 countries so this is purely my opinion. But now a days the world is so connected with the internet that people in america are finally getting a feel for what the rest of the world has to say about us. I remember not knowing jack shit about any other country growing up in the 90s, not because I wasn't smart but because no one was talking about it.

It's a slow process of lifting the veil and letting america truly understand it's place in the global society.

Not just america, but all countries are more connected now than they every have before.




There is absolutely no way i'm over generalizing. Have you seen how obsessed people are with sports and celebrities? That is all that matters in this society! How you seen the garbage on television? All the endless stupid, crappy reality shows that aren't even real? People actually believe these shows are real when they aren't! This is just one example of dumbed down the American people are. Don't even get me started on anything else. We would be here all day. As a people we are dead. Most Americans everyday never have their thoughts stimulated. They continue to live in "the matrix"!


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    #18754255 - 08/25/13 07:15 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Judging a society by the shit you see on a dying medium? C'mon now...
Then, using the analogy of an overrated movie with K. Reeves? :smirk:


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Canada and the US are really similar. Almost identical. It's like two brothers who don't want to admit how much they have in common.




Not really. There is not nearly as much violence and Canada news media isn't constantly pumping propaganda 24/7

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Really? That's not what we heard when we took out Saddam Hussein who was a brutal military dictator who regularly threatened the US and invaded other countries and used chemical weapons on civilians.

I don't support that war, but make no mistake, Iraq under Saddam Hussein was just as bad or worse than the governments of North Korea, Iran, and Syria. We didn't get any kind of thanks for taking him out even though Iraq was every bit just as bad.




There was no evidence that saddam did any of that. We just had to take the word of the mainstream media. Same thing now that's happening to Syria, Iran, and NK. For all you know, they are actually the good guys and the US is the horrible dictatorship.


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Judging a society by the shit you see on a dying medium? C'mon now...
Then, using the analogy of an overrated movie with K. Reeves? :smirk:




Honestly, that was just one out of thousands of examples where you can see how bad America has gotten.


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    #18754267 - 08/25/13 07:21 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I think it was a poor example, esp coupled with a Hollywood movie analogy.

In relation to the rest of the world, the US and Canada are nearly indistinguishable.

I'm perma-grimacing all day long at the tv, but I think that's because basic cable tv sucks.

Not because the American people are 'stupid'...(compared to who??) Maybe we just disagree here.


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I think it was a poor example, esp coupled with a Hollywood movie analogy.

In relation to the rest of the world, the US and Canada are nearly indistinguishable.

I'm perma-grimacing all day long at the tv, but I think that's because basic cable tv sucks.

Not because the American people are 'stupid'...(compared to who??) Maybe we just disagree here.



Makes fun of americans obssesion with the media uses a media refrence to frame his arguement. :rofl:


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I think it was a poor example, esp coupled with a Hollywood movie analogy.

In relation to the rest of the world, the US and Canada are nearly indistinguishable.

I'm perma-grimacing all day long at the tv, but I think that's because basic cable tv sucks.

Not because the American people are 'stupid'...(compared to who??) Maybe we just disagree here.



Makes fun of americans obssesion with the media uses a media refrence to frame his arguement. :rofl:




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I think it was a poor example, esp coupled with a Hollywood movie analogy.

In relation to the rest of the world, the US and Canada are nearly indistinguishable.

I'm perma-grimacing all day long at the tv, but I think that's because basic cable tv sucks.

Not because the American people are 'stupid'...(compared to who??) Maybe we just disagree here.



Makes fun of americans obssesion with the media uses a media refrence to frame his arguement. :rofl:




Uh, I never made fun of American's obsession with media,:uhoh: and even if I did a 'refrence' to that media would seem to be part and parcel of my making fun of it, no? :shrug: I'm all about ripping people for no good reason, but it helps if you're actually making sense. :lol:



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You've got 4 GREAT reasons to use the big green machine and you haven't done it yet.




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Gil is a good guy. Don't let otd ribbing get under your skin.


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    #18754537 - 08/25/13 09:21 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Most kids are liberals these days. Especially those who goes to college and university (which is most). They'll out live both you and me. It appears the liberals will rule the future of most countries in the world. Conservatism always seems to be a phase every 20 years. The midlife crisis of politics (badly needed though).





until they grow up, then they become conservatives

unless they're retarded, then they'll run for public office






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People will grow up and become conservative when they learn about all the successful conservative nations.

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    #18754576 - 08/25/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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NOW is your time to shine. You've got 4 GREAT reasons to use the big green machine and you haven't done it yet. You guys need a reason to justify the military budget, you should jump on one of them. You would look like the good guys again.





with all the liberal pansies crying about the human rights of egyptians and
syrians you'd believe they'd be volunteering to fly over there and fight
for the shit themselves... where are they, why arent you there since you've
brought it up




If we were to be there we would need the support of the rest of the planet to have a big enough force to make a change. Plus, were more into humanitarian help in the post-war

You guys have enough fire power on your own and only need the decision of one man. Much easier.


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NOW is your time to shine. You've got 4 GREAT reasons to use the big green machine and you haven't done it yet. You guys need a reason to justify the military budget, you should jump on one of them. You would look like the good guys again.





with all the liberal pansies crying about the human rights of egyptians and
syrians you'd believe they'd be volunteering to fly over there and fight
for the shit themselves... where are they, why arent you there since you've
brought it up




If we were to be there we would need the support of the rest of the planet to have a big enough force to make a change. Plus, were more into humanitarian help in the post-war

You guys have enough fire power on your own and only need the decision of one man. Much easier.



Eh no. There are layers and layers of bureaucracy, and between the dems and repubs butting heads on 90% of policies not a lot gets passed.
If we only needed the decision of one man it'd be a dictatorship, it's actually a democracy... well, not a democracy, but a constitutional republic. Still not a dictatorship though.


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    #18754660 - 08/25/13 10:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Gil is a good guy. Don't let otd ribbing get under your skin.




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Gil is a good guy. Don't let otd ribbing get under your skin.




He is becoming more obsessed with me almost as much as Dorian Gray.



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with all the liberal pansies crying about the human rights of egyptians and
syrians you'd believe they'd be volunteering to fly over there and fight
for the shit themselves... where are they, why arent you there since you've
brought it up




If we were to be there we would need the support of the rest of the planet to have a big enough force to make a change. Plus, were more into humanitarian help in the post-war

You guys have enough fire power on your own and only need the decision of one man. Much easier.



Eh no. There are layers and layers of bureaucracy, and between the dems and repubs butting heads on 90% of policies not a lot gets passed.
If we only needed the decision of one man it'd be a dictatorship, it's actually a democracy... well, not a democracy, but a constitutional republic. Still not a dictatorship though.




The executive power of the president is enough to go to war without the approval of congress. Lots of people seem to think that the president is just a puppet at the mercy of the congress. Its a rather big underestimation of the executive power of the president. He's the commander in chief of the US army, not congress. When he says to the military to jump, the military jumps.


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USA is too big, I have a lot more pride in my state than I do in my country and I have no pride in my government even at a municipal level.


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    #18755003 - 08/25/13 12:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, the USA is running down the shithole for sure.

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    #18755178 - 08/25/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The US constitution states that only congressi has the authority to declare war.

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Canada and the US are really similar. Almost identical. It's like two brothers who don't want to admit how much they have in common.




Not really. There is not nearly as much violence and Canada news media isn't constantly pumping propaganda 24/7

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Really? That's not what we heard when we took out Saddam Hussein who was a brutal military dictator who regularly threatened the US and invaded other countries and used chemical weapons on civilians.

I don't support that war, but make no mistake, Iraq under Saddam Hussein was just as bad or worse than the governments of North Korea, Iran, and Syria. We didn't get any kind of thanks for taking him out even though Iraq was every bit just as bad.




There was no evidence that saddam did any of that. We just had to take the word of the mainstream media. Same thing now that's happening to Syria, Iran, and NK. For all you know, they are actually the good guys and the US is the horrible dictatorship.



Aside from the OP this post was so stunningly stupid that I had to respond.  No evidence?  He was found guilty in a trial by his fellow citizens.  Which has nothing to do with why we decided, along with 50 other nations to end the Iraq war begun with the invasion of Kuwait. 

We aren't involved in Egypt and Syria because those are entirely internal.  Neither Iraq nor Afghanistan was.  They were exporters.  We are not in N. K. because of China.  Iran?  Should have been done 30 years ago.


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Synthe]
    #18755237 - 08/25/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Most kids are liberals these days. Especially those who goes to college and university (which is most). They'll out live both you and me. It appears the liberals will rule the future of most countries in the world. Conservatism always seems to be a phase every 20 years. The midlife crisis of politics (badly needed though).





until they grow up, then they become conservatives

unless they're retarded, then they'll run for public office






Do you really think most liberals grow up and become conservatives? That they just find god and suddenly trade one set of beliefs for another, slightly less rational one?



God has nothing to do with it.  Here's what happens.  They get away from the liberal education system and find out how the real world works.  Then when the shitbags come to tax the fuck out of their money to give to loser shitheads like they used to be they get a little education.  Get your Obamaphone sounds real cool until have to actually pay for yours and theirs.


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Patlal]
    #18755254 - 08/25/13 01:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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NOW is your time to shine. You've got 4 GREAT reasons to use the big green machine and you haven't done it yet. You guys need a reason to justify the military budget, you should jump on one of them. You would look like the good guys again.





with all the liberal pansies crying about the human rights of egyptians and
syrians you'd believe they'd be volunteering to fly over there and fight
for the shit themselves... where are they, why arent you there since you've
brought it up




If we were to be there we would need the support of the rest of the planet to have a big enough force to make a change. Plus, were more into humanitarian help in the post-war

You guys have enough fire power on your own and only need the decision of one man. Much easier.




Actually no, it requires Congress to authorize it.  Even our limited activity in Libya was stretching the Constitutional bounds of presidential action.  You don't know what you're talking about.  Yet another foreigner willfully ignorant yet insisting on opining about America.


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Patlal]
    #18755258 - 08/25/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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with all the liberal pansies crying about the human rights of egyptians and
syrians you'd believe they'd be volunteering to fly over there and fight
for the shit themselves... where are they, why arent you there since you've
brought it up




If we were to be there we would need the support of the rest of the planet to have a big enough force to make a change. Plus, were more into humanitarian help in the post-war

You guys have enough fire power on your own and only need the decision of one man. Much easier.



Eh no. There are layers and layers of bureaucracy, and between the dems and repubs butting heads on 90% of policies not a lot gets passed.
If we only needed the decision of one man it'd be a dictatorship, it's actually a democracy... well, not a democracy, but a constitutional republic. Still not a dictatorship though.




The executive power of the president is enough to go to war without the approval of congress. Lots of people seem to think that the president is just a puppet at the mercy of the congress. Its a rather big underestimation of the executive power of the president. He's the commander in chief of the US army, not congress. When he says to the military to jump, the military jumps.



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Re: The U.S.A [Re: imachavel]
    #18755376 - 08/25/13 02:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The US constitution states that only congressi has the authority to declare war.

Americans are dumb.



It wasn't an American who said that the president has so much power over the military, if I recall.


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18755417 - 08/25/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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If we were to be there we would need the support of the rest of the planet to have a big enough force to make a change. Plus, were more into humanitarian help in the post-war

You guys have enough fire power on your own and only need the decision of one man. Much easier.



Eh no. There are layers and layers of bureaucracy, and between the dems and repubs butting heads on 90% of policies not a lot gets passed.
If we only needed the decision of one man it'd be a dictatorship, it's actually a democracy... well, not a democracy, but a constitutional republic. Still not a dictatorship though.




The executive power of the president is enough to go to war without the approval of congress. Lots of people seem to think that the president is just a puppet at the mercy of the congress. Its a rather big underestimation of the executive power of the president. He's the commander in chief of the US army, not congress. When he says to the military to jump, the military jumps.



Completely false




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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Patlal]
    #18755445 - 08/25/13 02:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution




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The War Powers Resolution has been violated in the past by President Reagan in regards to the aid to the Contras in Nicaragua and by President Clinton in 1999, during the bombing campaign in Kosovo. All incidents have had congressional disapproval, but none have had any successful legal actions taken against the president for violations.[2][3] All presidents since 1973 have declared their belief that the act is unconstitutional. [4][5]




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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Synthe]
    #18755494 - 08/25/13 02:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

They can do little shit without authorization.  Obama's actions regarding Libya were right there at the line.  He cannot by himself decide to invade Syria, Egypt, Iran, N. K. or anywhere else.  From your link

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Under the United States Constitution, war powers are divided. Congress has the power to declare war, raise and support the armed forces, control the war funding (Article I, Section 8), and has "Power … to make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution … all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof", while the President is commander-in-chief of the military (Article II, Section 2). It is generally agreed that the commander-in-chief role gives the President power to repel attacks against the United States[6][7] and makes the President responsible for leading the armed forces. In addition and as with all acts of the Congress, the President has the right to sign or veto congressional acts, such as a declaration of war.




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    #18755517 - 08/25/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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In response, we sacrificed liberty for a bit of safety. Looks like the terrorists won that one. :frown:





what liberty was sacrificed?



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Re: The U.S.A [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #18755536 - 08/25/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Let's have an answer.  Or are you going to be just another lazy, nebulous whiner?


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18755546 - 08/25/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Let's have an answer.  Or are you going to be just another lazy, nebulous whiner?



TSA. :blewmeanie:


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Synthe]
    #18755575 - 08/25/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Most kids are liberals these days. Especially those who goes to college and university (which is most). They'll out live both you and me. It appears the liberals will rule the future of most countries in the world. Conservatism always seems to be a phase every 20 years. The midlife crisis of politics (badly needed though).





until they grow up, then they become conservatives

unless they're retarded, then they'll run for public office






Do you really think most liberals grow up and become conservatives? That they just find god and suddenly trade one set of beliefs for another, slightly less rational one?





see there, you buy into the liberal media hype too, somehow you seem to
believe that conservatives are the religious ones when we've seen that they
like to portray the small westborough type groups as the representation of
conservative values, you seem to have missed the fact that Obama was an
avid church goer, every sunday for 20 years he was in church hearing
sermons about the white devil controlling the black man

now let's look at some fact, if 83% of the US professes to be christian and
the numbers of liberals are larger than those of conservatives then doesnt
that mean that most liberals already believe in those ridiculous religious
beliefs, so really, by your convoluted logic, liberals are already
conservatives and unlike in one of patlals earlier threads where it was
claimed that liberals are smarter, we know that wisdom comes with age and
people wise up to the liberal bullshit when they begin to understand that
they cant spend their way out of debt or support the world with financial
aid while still paying their own bills


so yeah, the numbers of conservatives are growing because liberals are
growing up and realizing that 'liberalism' is for children that believe the
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Re: The U.S.A [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #18755588 - 08/25/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Let's have an answer.  Or are you going to be just another lazy, nebulous whiner?



TSA. :blewmeanie:





what about the TSA sacrificed your liberties?

mine were not harmed by the TSA


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #18755599 - 08/25/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Let's have an answer.  Or are you going to be just another lazy, nebulous whiner?



TSA. :blewmeanie:




Did you know that you could be arrested for making jokes about bombs in airports for decades?  You do not have a Constitutional right to fly on an airplane.


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    #18755610 - 08/25/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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this tells us that the US is a great place where government works


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    #18755616 - 08/25/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Not exactly.  It tells us that government doesn't work, as in stays the fuck out of the way, more than those places.  But it's getting there and those places are festering shitholes of government overreach.


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    #18755637 - 08/25/13 03:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Let's have an answer.  Or are you going to be just another lazy, nebulous whiner?



TSA. :blewmeanie:




Did you know that you could be arrested for making jokes about bombs in airports for decades?  You do not have a Constitutional right to fly on an airplane.



You're right, I don't have a constitutional right to fly on an airplane. However, TSA stands for transportation security administration, not airplane security administration. The scope of their operations extends to and is not limited to buses, traines, highways, and seaports. The airports are merely the more visible aspect, and simply a foot in the doorway.

I do have right to be secure in my person, home, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures.
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Re: The U.S.A [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #18755651 - 08/25/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah?  So how have you lost any that you had before?.  By the way, you might want to consider every word in that last sentence.


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    #18755672 - 08/25/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah?  So how have you lost any that you had before?.  By the way, you might want to consider every word in that last sentence.



Because they are random searches without probable cause. Must everything be spoon fed?

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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Patlal]
    #18755697 - 08/25/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Back when I was a kid, maybe between 6 to 15 years olds, I used to think that the USA was the shit. You guys had everything, you were the coolest guys on the planet. You had the most money, the biggest armies, the best laws, the respect, the influence. I was looking up to you guys and I wishing Canada was as awesome as you are. I thought of Canada as the younger brother of the US. You walked on the moon, you had beaten Russia, you had all the awesome music groups and Hollywood was pumping out amazing movies. I even remember a drawing I did for art class, it was a F16 shooting a missile a the enemy with big letters on the tail saying USAF. Overall, I was like: America, Fuck Yeah!!!

Now I 16 years old, the twin towers fell, I remember, I was at my high school, watching TV before class, the news kept on showing the WTC is flames. It was tragic. From there, the Americans started to freak out. You guys decided to tighten security everywhere. The borders, the airport, shipyards, law enforcement, everything. Then came a war declared for no reason against Irak and another war agaisnt terrorism. That's when shit started to fall apart. I started losing respect for the US, I understood that they had lost a couple thousand souls in NY, but the reaction was horrible. Paranoia. Fear. You were caught off guard. America didn't know how to react. From then, it became: America, Fuck....

Ever since, its been a downhill slope. You lost the respect, you lost the money, you lost the courage, the power. You collapsed. Now I look at you as the older brother, the fuck up of the family. I'm no longer proud... You deceived me. Now I'm heartbroken.

But what this being said, I can still say that America makes the best TV shows. America still has the best pro athletes on earth. America still has the best corporations, the best willpower and the best fucking military the earth has ever seen. Goddamit America, get back up and throw another punch, your arms are long enough to boxe with god.






We ain't lost shit, you simply allowed yourself to be blinded with jealousy. I don't blame you; we are just that awesome, after all. :shrug:


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    #18755799 - 08/25/13 04:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Meanwhile, we're about to declare war on Syria . . .

:sad:




We can only hope. It's a crime that we haven't ousted Assad yet. It's going to be a lot more difficult now that the Syrian public has been so thoroughly thrashed.


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #18755814 - 08/25/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah?  So how have you lost any that you had before?.  By the way, you might want to consider every word in that last sentence.



Because they are random searches without probable cause. Must everything be spoon fed?

:datass:



There's nothing random about them and there is plenty of cause.  Try again.


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18755823 - 08/25/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Meanwhile, we're about to declare war on Syria . . .

:sad:




We can only hope. It's a crime that we haven't ousted Assad yet. It's going to be a lot more difficult now that the Syrian public has been so thoroughly thrashed.



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    #18755857 - 08/25/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Back when I was a kid, maybe between 6 to 15 years olds, I used to think that the USA was the shit. You guys had everything, you were the coolest guys on the planet. You had the most money, the biggest armies, the best laws, the respect, the influence. I was looking up to you guys and I wishing Canada was as awesome as you are. I thought of Canada as the younger brother of the US. You walked on the moon, you had beaten Russia, you had all the awesome music groups and Hollywood was pumping out amazing movies. I even remember a drawing I did for art class, it was a F16 shooting a missile a the enemy with big letters on the tail saying USAF. Overall, I was like: America, Fuck Yeah!!!

Now I 16 years old, the twin towers fell, I remember, I was at my high school, watching TV before class, the news kept on showing the WTC is flames. It was tragic. From there, the Americans started to freak out. You guys decided to tighten security everywhere. The borders, the airport, shipyards, law enforcement, everything. Then came a war declared for no reason against Irak and another war agaisnt terrorism. That's when shit started to fall apart. I started losing respect for the US, I understood that they had lost a couple thousand souls in NY, but the reaction was horrible. Paranoia. Fear. You were caught off guard. America didn't know how to react. From then, it became: America, Fuck....

Ever since, its been a downhill slope. You lost the respect, you lost the money, you lost the courage, the power. You collapsed. Now I look at you as the older brother, the fuck up of the family. I'm no longer proud... You deceived me. Now I'm heartbroken.

But what this being said, I can still say that America makes the best TV shows. America still has the best pro athletes on earth. America still has the best corporations, the best willpower and the best fucking military the earth has ever seen. Goddamit America, get back up and throw another punch, your arms are long enough to boxe with god.






We ain't lost shit, you simply allowed yourself to be blinded with jealousy. I don't blame you; we are just that awesome, after all. :shrug:




You MUST be high. Stop watching fox news.
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Meanwhile, we're about to declare war on Syria . . .

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We can only hope. It's a crime that we haven't ousted Assad yet. It's going to be a lot more difficult now that the Syrian public has been so thoroughly thrashed.




You have gone off the deep end. Assad is actually protecting the minority religious sects from the shiites and sunnis. That includes Christianity. You know what will happen once Assad is thrust from power? Al Qaeda will take over and it will be all out chaos on a region that was pretty much under control.


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: YSHServant]
    #18755941 - 08/25/13 04:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The US is awesome, stop watching CBS NBC ABC MSNBC CNN and reading the NY Times, WaPo LaTimes and whatever other liberal America bashing rag you have available.  And tell your teachers they're assholes for lying to you. 

On to Syria.  You are actually correct.  Assad is most definitely a piece of shit but what will come after will be piled higher and deeper for sure.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/25/shock-video-allegedly-shows-al-qaeda-linked-terrorists-stopping-truck-drivers-on-side-of-road-then-executing-them-for-not-being-sunni-muslims/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed


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    #18756158 - 08/25/13 05:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah?  So how have you lost any that you had before?.  By the way, you might want to consider every word in that last sentence.



Because they are random searches without probable cause. Must everything be spoon fed?

:datass:



There's nothing random about them and there is plenty of cause.  Try again.



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    #18756897 - 08/25/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The US is awesome, stop watching CBS NBC ABC MSNBC CNN and reading the NY Times, WaPo LaTimes and whatever other liberal America bashing rag you have available.  And tell your teachers they're assholes for lying to you. 





We can thank the assholes you continually vote for and promote, as well as the assholes those media outlets promote for the shit sandwich every American has to eat now.  You are as full of shit as most liberals are...  Conservatives promoting trillion $ wars, you are so fucking full of shit.


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    #18756909 - 08/25/13 08:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I speculate that America is too far gone to make a recovery, and I hope it's end is very soon.
I was born in America but never considered myself one of them, I've been quite disgusted since childhood.

I often ponder what measures it would take to awake a nation to their ignorance, their gullibility, their egos;
and after years of consideration I have come to the personal conclusion- that it takes death.

No words can be said which will make one realize they have been fooled, that the planet is more important than they are, that they are doing it all wrong.
Only with threat of a great tragedy will everyone become one, but then it will be too late. It is what it is.

Freedom, patriotism, faith, all cause the division of people.



I'm sorry you feel that way but having travled the world I can say that the US is the best place to live its not perfect but its the closet thing.



ok, how? and why?

PS: America is awesome. it's the people inside of it that are stupid and on a downfall.

this whole thread reeks of bias.


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    #18757718 - 08/25/13 11:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The US is awesome, stop watching CBS NBC ABC MSNBC CNN and reading the NY Times, WaPo LaTimes and whatever other liberal America bashing rag you have available.  And tell your teachers they're assholes for lying to you. 





We can thank the assholes you continually vote for and promote, as well as the assholes those media outlets promote for the shit sandwich every American has to eat now.  You are as full of shit as most liberals are...  Conservatives promoting trillion $ wars, you are so fucking full of shit.




Actually I was the one promoting war, even though I'm a liberal. The conservative zig is against. :sorry:


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18757792 - 08/25/13 11:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not talking about Syria, though that would lead us into an even bigger clusterfuck than Iraq was.


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    #18758089 - 08/26/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Meanwhile, we're about to declare war on Syria . . .

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We can only hope. It's a crime that we haven't ousted Assad yet. It's going to be a lot more difficult now that the Syrian public has been so thoroughly thrashed.




:thisisterrible:

Oh yeah that's just what this country needs. More military action and war.


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: DeadHearts]
    #18758099 - 08/26/13 12:52 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

If we were going to have an armed conflict to save a large # of people Africa would make a lot more sense and cost a lot less lives.  Its an armed conflict in Syria, it isn't exactly the ethnic cleansing we see yet also do nothing about.


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    #18758105 - 08/26/13 12:54 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Meanwhile, we're about to declare war on Syria . . .

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We can only hope. It's a crime that we haven't ousted Assad yet. It's going to be a lot more difficult now that the Syrian public has been so thoroughly thrashed.




:thisisterrible:

Oh yeah that's just what this country needs. More military action and war.




I don't condone us getting into another war, but if you look back not too long ago. The reason why we were able to rebound from the great depression was because of us being in WW2.

War is unfortunately the backbone of this country and always has been.


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    #18758453 - 08/26/13 04:16 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Meanwhile, we're about to declare war on Syria . . .

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We can only hope. It's a crime that we haven't ousted Assad yet. It's going to be a lot more difficult now that the Syrian public has been so thoroughly thrashed.




:thisisterrible:

Oh yeah that's just what this country needs. More military action and war.




I don't condone us getting into another war, but if you look back not too long ago. The reason why we were able to rebound from the great depression was because of us being in WW2.

War is unfortunately the backbone of this country and always has been.




You cannot solve old problems with old ideas.

War is not the answer. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some involvement by the US/UK to put those chemical weapons there as a reason for invasion.

How many wars started because of a false flag / prior knowledge where nothing was done?

I would really be CAREFUL and take all the media reports with a grain of salt. What motive would Assad really have to use chemical weapons while the world is watching... Critical thinking here...


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18758462 - 08/26/13 04:24 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah?  So how have you lost any that you had before?.  By the way, you might want to consider every word in that last sentence.



Because they are random searches without probable cause. Must everything be spoon fed?

:datass:



There's nothing random about them and there is plenty of cause.  Try again.





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    #18758471 - 08/26/13 04:28 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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You cannot solve old problems with old ideas.




Not that I would condone any of the wars the media is gunning for, but that's a terrible analogy, you're hungry so you find something to eat. Old problem old solution, could list off more variations than anyone would care to write.


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: kr0nik0]
    #18758475 - 08/26/13 04:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't condone us getting into another war, but if you look back not too long ago. The reason why we were able to rebound from the great depression was because of us being in WW2.

War is unfortunately the backbone of this country and always has been.




false, the US Economy was already recovering from the depression by 1935 and
the climb rate from 1933 to 1950 stayed fairly steady, by 1937 the level of
investments were back to the levels of 1929 before the market crash and
because of the uncertainty created by programs under The New Deal, the
depression actually lasted longer than it should have, kinda like how it's
going today with the quantitative easing artificially inflating the markets
to make it appear as though the economy is recovering quicker


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #18758661 - 08/26/13 07:00 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Well the exports to countries fighting in WW2 did help the US greatly for years before we entered the war.


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: fapjack]
    #18758861 - 08/26/13 08:47 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The US has been losing its economic superpower status for many years now, just since 2000 the US was once 32% of global GDP, today we are only 21%. Debt to GDP is well over 100%, real wages have been declining for decades, and the distribution of wealth is a disaster as the top 1% continues to grab most of it.

Globalization has made the US worker the big loser in this economic game, yet it has served the wealthy very well, past generations of US workers never had to compete with third world nations, today they do.


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    #18758937 - 08/26/13 09:17 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I think the reason the US economy grew so fast after WW2 is not because the US was so amazing, it's because it was the only industrialized country that wasn't bombarded the pieces. While all the other countries rebuilt their factories the US' factories kept on producing and exporting to the others that needed rebuilding material and equipment.


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Patlal]
    #18758952 - 08/26/13 09:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I think the reason the US economy grew so fast after WW2 is not because the US was so amazing, it's because it was the only industrialized country that wasn't bombarded the pieces. While all the other countries rebuilt their factories the US' factories kept on producing and exporting to the others that needed rebuilding material and equipment.



Agreed the only way to move forward is to close the borders and nationlize all industries bring unemployment down to zero everyone works for the state.


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: Patlal]
    #18760336 - 08/26/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I think the reason the US economy grew so fast after WW2 is not because the US was so amazing, it's because it was the only industrialized country that wasn't bombarded the pieces. While all the other countries rebuilt their factories the US' factories kept on producing and exporting to the others that needed rebuilding material and equipment.



A chicken dinner for you.  It also caused the unbridled rise of toxic unionism and the perversion of employer supplied health insurance.


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    #18760407 - 08/26/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't condone us getting into another war, but if you look back not too long ago. The reason why we were able to rebound from the great depression was because of us being in WW2.

War is unfortunately the backbone of this country and always has been.




false, the US Economy was already recovering from the depression by 1935 and
the climb rate from 1933 to 1950 stayed fairly steady, by 1937 the level of
investments were back to the levels of 1929 before the market crash and
because of the uncertainty created by programs under The New Deal, the
depression actually lasted longer than it should have, kinda like how it's
going today with the quantitative easing artificially inflating the markets
to make it appear as though the economy is recovering quicker




I wasn't aware of that. I made my comment based on what I've read and have heard from a few different sources. I see that nowadays the recent wars have done nothing but put us into further debt instead of creating jobs back in the 30's and 40's

My question to you is, do you think we need war in order for the US to stabilize the economy further?
Or is it the complete opposite?


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: kr0nik0]
    #18760551 - 08/26/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The wars cost about a trillion dollars combined.  The debt is about 16 trillion dollars.  In 2011 alone the government of the United States gave away a nearly a trillion dollars in public largesse not including soc sec and medicare.  The wars amounted to dick in terms of increasing the debt.


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18760577 - 08/26/13 05:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The wars cost about a trillion dollars combined.  The debt is about 16 trillion dollars.  In 2011 alone the government of the United States gave away a nearly a trillion dollars in public largesse not
including soc sec and medicare.  The wars amounted to dick in terms of increasing the debt.




Right, but do you believe wars in the future could benefit the economy instead of adding to debt? (even if it was only a small amount of debt added in our recent wars)


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Re: The U.S.A [Re: kr0nik0]
    #18760628 - 08/26/13 05:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I do not believe that making something only to destroy it is good for the economy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window

Broken windows.  This is similar to the idiocy of the argument that adding government bureaucrat jobs is a positive economic move.


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    #18760749 - 08/26/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The wars cost about a trillion dollars combined.  The debt is about 16 trillion dollars.  In 2011 alone the government of the United States gave away a nearly a trillion dollars in public largesse not including soc sec and medicare.  The wars amounted to dick in terms of increasing the debt.




The wars also provide incentive to keep our military budget up at a trillion a year, personally I think it should be cut. Not because we don't need a strong military which we certainly do, but because the money isn't being spent in an efficient manner. We have projects costing billions and billions which get scrapped in their final stages over bureaucracy as an example.

IMO what our economy needs is less bureaucrats to fuck shit up, we could have more than we have for a lot less. Stop the drug war and pardon anyone serving on a non-violent drug offense (ending their probation and getting them out of the system, aside from the moral point), that would save us a massive amount of money and bring in revenues.


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    #18760763 - 08/26/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The wars cost about a trillion dollars combined.  The debt is about 16 trillion dollars.  In 2011 alone the government of the United States gave away a nearly a trillion dollars in public largesse not including soc sec and medicare.  The wars amounted to dick in terms of increasing the debt.




The wars also provide incentive to keep our military budget up at a trillion a year, personally I think it should be cut. Not because we don't need a strong military which we certainly do, but because the money isn't being spent in an efficient manner. We have projects costing billions and billions which get scrapped in their final stages over bureaucracy as an example.


The government is never efficient.
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IMO what our economy needs is less bureaucrats to fuck shit up, we could have more than we have for a lot less. Stop the drug war and pardon anyone serving on a non-violent drug offense (ending their probation and getting them out of the system, aside from the moral point), that would save us a massive amount of money and bring in revenues.




I can agree with 100% of this paragraph


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    #18760787 - 08/26/13 06:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Sadly we won't likely get any of that in the near future


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    #18760830 - 08/26/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Nope.


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    #18761404 - 08/26/13 08:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah?  So how have you lost any that you had before?.  By the way, you might want to consider every word in that last sentence.



Because they are random searches without probable cause. Must everything be spoon fed?

:datass:



There's nothing random about them and there is plenty of cause.  Try again.





I've never been searched by the TSA outside of the one time I hopped on plane
and because of that I dont fly anywhere any more because I choose to make my
voice heard by not letting the airlines have my money


"thanks to our hard work at the TSA, not a single airliner has been hijacked with nail clippers"




So why did they search you? Are you a terrorist? Did you feel safer afterwards?

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