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Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry?
    #18752767 - 08/24/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hi,

I'm having some difficulty getting my picked mushrooms completely dry.  I pre-dry them with a box fan on high for a day, and then put them into the dehydrator.  I've cut most of them in halt to help with drying, but I live in an area that is *very* humid since I am around a lot of water, so it's making it very hard.  I've been drying a batch of shrooms in the dehydrator for almost 3 days straight and they are "stuck" at around 80-90%. 

So I guess my question is if I put some 80-90% dry shrooms in a jar with some desiccant is it going to get them 100% dry, or does it just ensure that no ADDITIONAL moisture is absorbed?  Also, could I use a packet or two in the bottom of my dehydrator, or is it bad to expose them to heat (I am drying at ~105)?

Thank you very much for your help!!:smile::heart::heart:


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Insomnia411]
    #18752796 - 08/24/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Turn up the heat to like 140 or 150 and they will dry completely in a day


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Insomnia411]
    #18753118 - 08/24/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

After reading through some more threads I'm still conflicted on using anything more than a very small amount of heat, there seems to be no agreement in topics as recent as 2012.  But since I'm having so much trouble, I will bump it up a bit to  115/120. 

The real question I am still wondering, that I can't find in any of the desiccant threads, is whether it can finish the last 10% or so of drying for you or if it just prevents it from absorbing any more moisture.

If anyone has any idea, please let me know!


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Insomnia411]
    #18753155 - 08/24/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The actives in mushrooms do not break down until FAR past 300F, while most dehydrators do not make it past 165F.

The hotter you can get them, the quicker they will dry.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Insomnia411]
    #18753179 - 08/24/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you for your reply Notahacker420.  I always just used a fan and put them between newspapers in years past, this is my first time using a dehydrator, so forgive my ignorance. :blush:


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Insomnia411]
    #18753187 - 08/24/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18753610 - 08/24/13 11:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I usually put them over a fan and then place a box over them.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18754187 - 08/25/13 06:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Turn up the heat to like 140 or 150 and they will dry completely in a day




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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18754204 - 08/25/13 06:42 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

As the others have said above...  crank that shit up.

Also for future reference, there is no need to pre dry anything...  just slap them in your dehydrator, crank the heat all the way up, and dry 6-18 hours (dependant on shroom size and how good your dehydrator is)


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18754211 - 08/25/13 06:44 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Crank it up and break the knob off.

But, seriously, mine goes up to 160F. I crank it all the way up.

I have noticed zero potency loss since I started using the dehydrator

I go straight to the dehydrator, no pre-drying. You'll be happier when you start doing it this way


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: BloodKil]
    #18754214 - 08/25/13 06:46 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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As the others have said above...  crank that shit up.

Also for future reference, there is no need to pre dry anything...  just slap them in your dehydrator, crank the heat all the way up, and dry 6-18 hours (dependant on shroom size and how good your dehydrator is)




^^This exactly. I meant to say something about not needing to pre-dry them with a fan but forgot


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18755202 - 08/25/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Desiccant will work in a pinch but it's expensive and not fun to work with.  Damprid is found at walmart and other places in the house-cleaning section by the laundry soap etc.  It's made of calcium chloride, it is hydroscopic, so it pulls moisture out of the air.  Salt, sodium chloride, works the same way but is not as effective.  Desiccant can get you to 100% dry.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: invitro]
    #18757974 - 08/26/13 12:12 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the info guys. 

I'm actually just pre-drying so to speak because my dehydrator is so packed I can't fit anymore in it.  So may as well get tem started in front of the fan in the meantime, lol :wink:

One last question: is it possible to OVERdry them at the max setting (of 160)?  I'm gone a lot and I can see myself easily forgetting about them.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Insomnia411]
    #18757994 - 08/26/13 12:18 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

If you don't mind them looking funny you can split them to increase the surface area.

It'll help speed up drying. For cracker dry mushies use desiccant after most of the water content is out. I recommend Drierite.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Insomnia411]
    #18758154 - 08/26/13 01:09 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The manual for my dehydrator says dry at 90F for 2-3hrs, then increase temperature to 125F. total dry time 4-10 hrs

I noticed when I skip drying them at 90F for first 2-3hrs the mush caps loose the original color. They end up looking darker brownish. I think this happens because the instant 125F heats up the surface moisture causing some sort of reaction on the mush.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: PhosCap]
    #18758178 - 08/26/13 01:15 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The manual for my dehydrator says dry at 90F for 2-3hrs, then increase temperature to 125F. total dry time 4-10 hrs




For drying cubes? No...

Just crank that thing.

165F for 12-24 hours.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18758214 - 08/26/13 01:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The manual for my dehydrator says dry at 90F for 2-3hrs, then increase temperature to 125F. total dry time 4-10 hrs




For drying cubes? No...

Just crank that thing.

165F for 12-24 hours.




damn manual didn't have an appendix for cubes :smile:

do you experience discoloration if you blast them at 165f right away?


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: PhosCap]
    #18758222 - 08/26/13 01:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Nope :thumbup:


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18758244 - 08/26/13 01:45 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Forgot to mention. Im using a Nesco and were loaded on the top tray. I really have a feeling it was due to instant over heating.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: PhosCap]
    #18759011 - 08/26/13 09:44 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Forgot to mention. Im using a Nesco and were loaded on the top tray. I really have a feeling it was due to instant over heating.




I use a nesco and load all the trays. It's not causing any discoloration.

Mushrooms that press directly against the top of the unit (the heater) might show a little bit of shininess where the directly touched it, but never any real discoloration that would be an issue.

Actually I use four of the Nescos with 24 racks between them :derfase:


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18759053 - 08/26/13 09:55 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I have a waring pro and I crank it on high for cracker dry in about 6 hours with no bad side effects. They are as potent as they were when I did them on low for 24 hours.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18760077 - 08/26/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Forgot to mention. Im using a Nesco and were loaded on the top tray. I really have a feeling it was due to instant over heating.




I use a nesco and load all the trays. It's not causing any discoloration.

Mushrooms that press directly against the top of the unit (the heater) might show a little bit of shininess where the directly touched it, but never any real discoloration that would be an issue.

Actually I use four of the Nescos with 24 racks between them :derfase:




24 racks on each, :shocked::eek: ? Did you just buy extra racks or did they come with them?


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: PhosCap]
    #18760128 - 08/26/13 03:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I've had a few of the head units break on me.

So I ended up with extra racks :shrug:


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18760213 - 08/26/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

...but yes, you can buy extra racks.

I found some mislabeled at bed bath and beyond. Got packs of 2 for 7.99


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #18810469 - 09/07/13 04:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry to resurrect this old thread, but I am hearing people getting cracker dry in 6 hours, 12, hours, 24 hours, and even after adjusting to max 165 degree heat, I'm simply not getting anywhere close to these results. I am using a Nesco with 4 racks, packed fairly dense (no overlap at all, though).  How many racks/under what conditions are people achieving wet to cracker dry in 12 hours?

Like I said, I live in a VERY humid climate, often times 90% humidity, but I'm not really sure if this is the culprit or not.

Please help. :confused:


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Insomnia411]
    #18810472 - 09/07/13 04:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If the nesco is packed full, it should take 12-24 hours at 165F to get them cracker dry, depending on how thick and dense the fruits are.

I like to cut the fat ones in half long ways to help them dry faster.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18810478 - 09/07/13 04:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Currently it's taking like 2-3 days.  I cut some of them (maybe like 30-40%) in half or at least cut open the bottom thicker part of the stem.  I also have a few that I cut totally in half that simply have no change in moisture; like I'm checking and comparing again after 8-10 hours and there is almost no change, I can still take them and bend them, still totally flexible.  These unchanged shrooms in particular (maybe like 10% of them) are turning a light brown too.

And I am positive the dehydrator is working, if I touch the side it nearly burns my hand.

EDIT: and the ones taking 3 days I am finding the insides of a few are turning black.  The outsides look perfectly fine, but when I split them open it's almost totally black inside.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Insomnia411]
    #18810483 - 09/07/13 04:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Try using a dehumidifier in the same room at the same time?

I don't know, but 90% humidity is hurting you....I can tell already...


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18810842 - 09/07/13 08:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Would it be a good idea to put the dehydrator in a plywood box so the humidity drops fast instead of having to battle the 90% humidity in the whole room?


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: invitro]
    #18810917 - 09/07/13 09:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You're going to have a tough time getting them cracker dry if you live in a humid region.

Use the most heat your dehydrator can muster. Finish them with some desiccant.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18810967 - 09/07/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sun dry them if possible, a parked car in the sun works great in humid regions, and saves tons of energy!


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: open-minded]
    #18810983 - 09/07/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Sun dry them if possible, a parked car in the sun works great in humid regions, and saves tons of energy!




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Except when it is humid, they aren't going to get dry...

Nice first post. Welcome to the shroomery.

Do you really dry your illegal mushrooms in a parked car in the sun?


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Insomnia411]
    #18811021 - 09/07/13 09:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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VERY humid climate



This is your culprit.

You are basically trying to make a bunch of moisture absorbing sticks, as soon as their content is below atmosphere they start pulling it back in.
I've seen cracker dry shrooms double their dry weight in absorbed moisture when left out in a humid environment.
The extreme darkness on the inside is bruising reaction from where this rehydration is affecting burst cells.

Build a desiccant box and make sure to tape it shut, the desiccant will pull the inside humidity down to zero and dry your shrooms.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: StygianKnight]
    #18811032 - 09/07/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Putting damprid in teabags is great for storage.if your shrooms were 80% dry you would only need a couple of these but if there not almost dry and still wet you might need like an inch or so deep in the container.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18811099 - 09/07/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Sun dry them if possible, a parked car in the sun works great in humid regions, and saves tons of energy!




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Except when it is humid, they aren't going to get dry...

Nice first post. Welcome to the shroomery.

Do you really dry your illegal mushrooms in a parked car in the sun?




Actually Frank, I lived in a tropical rainforest for a couple of years where the humidity is one of the highest on the planet, what he is saying does work very well, I know from experience.  Not that I would recommend it, a friend told me about it so I thought I would try it out just because.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Insomnia411]
    #18811131 - 09/07/13 10:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Could be something wrong with your dehydrator.

I live in the southeast USA were it's humid. I can stuff my nesco with 6 trays and be cracker dry in less than 36 hours for sure. Usually less than 24 depending on how stuffed and how dense the fruits.

Turn it on while empty and see if you feel any heat coming off of it. There should be fan blown heat.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: invitro]
    #18811139 - 09/07/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Actually Frank, I lived in a tropical rainforest for a couple of years where the humidity is one of the highest on the planet, what he is saying does work very well, I know from experience.  Not that I would recommend it, a friend told me about it so I thought I would try it out just because.




You might as well just use your oven then, it's basically the same effect. Heated area, little air movement :shrug:


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #18811152 - 09/07/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Could be something wrong with your dehydrator.

I live in the southeast USA were it's humid. I can stuff my nesco with 6 trays and be cracker dry in less than 36 hours for sure. Usually less than 24 depending on how stuffed and how dense the fruits.

Turn it on while empty and see if you feel any heat coming off of it. There should be fan blown heat.





I agree. It has been very humid and rainy here in NC this summer and I have had no trouble drying mushies in my dehydrator. I run my dehydrator in my damp basement sometimes because my wife fusses about the smell. Even in the basement they are cracker dry in 12 hours. Drying at 160 degrees btw.

Make sure your fan and heating element is working properly. Some dehydrators have a little filter. If it does then clean it.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18811288 - 09/07/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'll third that, it's not that humid where I am, however I'll dehydrate them in my kitchen, often when cooking, so the ambient humidity is certainly up there and I've never had it take longer than 24hrs.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: StygianKnight]
    #18811622 - 09/07/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, I am positive the dehydrator is working, like I said touching it nearly burns me.  I have checked this several times just to be sure.

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VERY humid climate



This is your culprit.

You are basically trying to make a bunch of moisture absorbing sticks, as soon as their content is below atmosphere they start pulling it back in.
I've seen cracker dry shrooms double their dry weight in absorbed moisture when left out in a humid environment.
The extreme darkness on the inside is bruising reaction from where this rehydration is affecting burst cells.

Build a desiccant box and make sure to tape it shut, the desiccant will pull the inside humidity down to zero and dry your shrooms.




So are these internally bruised mushrooms still ok to eat?  Does this cause a loss of potency?


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Insomnia411]
    #18811659 - 09/07/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I've noticed internal bruising on some of mine, but never any distinguishable loss of potency, no.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Insomnia411]
    #18811666 - 09/07/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Are you sure it is blowing air. It shouldn't be hot enough to burn you unless it is not circulating air.

Does it have a filter that needs cleaned?


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: krypto2000]
    #18811668 - 09/07/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Bluing is a sign of degradation of potency but, will it be significant?  Hard to say.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: invitro]
    #18811673 - 09/07/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Are you sure it is blowing air. It shouldn't be hot enough to burn you unless it is not circulating air.




Mine burns me when I touch it at 165F :shrug:

It sounds like you'll need to use a desiccant if you want to get them properly dry insomnia. They will be fine to eat. I had this issue one particularly humid summer and none of my buddies had any issue with them.

They were eaten within a week or two after being bagged up with issues like you are describing.

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Bluing is a sign of degradation of potency but, will it be significant?  Hard to say.




Paul Stamets has stated that bluing is the oxidation of phenolic compounds, unrelated to the active alkaloids.

This is why blue bruising is not the only indicator required for a proper ID.

Potency can certainly be affected if they oxidize while they are not completely dry. But it is not directly related to the bruising.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: invitro]
    #18811676 - 09/07/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I thought we still did not know what causes the bluing. I've heard it's oxidation, but oxidation of what exactly? Afaik there is no reason to believe the bluing has anything to do with alkaloids or else all psilocybin mushrooms would bruise blue and many do not in the slightest.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: krypto2000]
    #18811682 - 09/07/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If it's too humid why not put them in a closed room near an a/c? A/c's dehumidify the air by design so that should help alot, and plus the cooler the ambient air the more quickly they'll dry so long as it doesn't affect the internal temperature of the dehydrator.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: krypto2000]
    #18811811 - 09/07/13 02:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yep what Frank said, blueing seems to be an enzymatic oxidization of non-psychoactive compounds it also seems to need water to do its thing.
You can see this if you take an almost dried shroom and mist it, it will become blue and then black rather fast.
This is also the reason for the blue of "blue honey" which is certainly still psychoactive.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18811852 - 09/07/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I was going to double check that bluing factoid but I misplaced my book on the subject, I guess bluing is fine.  Good to know.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: invitro]
    #18811895 - 09/07/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, I've been taking the ones really close to dry (like ~90%) and putting them in sealed pint jars with 5 small packets of desiccant on the bottom.  I just went and bumped it up to 6 packets (they're very small) in each jar just to be safe.

EDIT: btw, does anyone else snip off the bottom of the stems with scissors after picking?  I like to do this so that I'm not eating any portion with substrate still stuck to it.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Insomnia411]
    #18811994 - 09/07/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I tend to use my fingernail or a paper towel to peel the outside layer surrounding the base off rather than cut them. They look more complete to me that way :tongue:.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: krypto2000]
    #18812009 - 09/07/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I tend to use my fingernail or a paper towel to peel the outside layer surrounding the base off rather than cut them. They look more complete to me that way :tongue:.



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I tend to use my fingernail or a paper towel to peel the outside layer surrounding the base off rather than cut them. They look more complete to me that way :tongue:.




Lol I keep a long thumb nail just for that reason. :lol:

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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18812013 - 09/07/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah it really is, I used to have my girlfriend help me do it (when we were dating), and it was quite a bit of work. I'd often get small mushies so it depends on the size, but for roughly a 5oz flush on a monotub it'd take the two of us upwards of an hour to clean.


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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: krypto2000]
    #18812037 - 09/07/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah it really is, I used to have my girlfriend help me do it (when we were dating), and it was quite a bit of work. I'd often get small mushies so it depends on the size, but for roughly a 5oz flush on a monotub it'd take the two of us upwards of an hour to clean.




I have a couple very trustworthy friends that I make help me. It's cool because they are willing to work for shrooms :thumbup:


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