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TwinEclipse
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Re: Why do people need to believe DMT is the secret answer to everything? [Re: Universe]
#18754324 - 08/25/13 07:43 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mmhmm sounds like you haven't reached your breakthrough experience yet.
With high doses, you can see HOW CONNECTED we all are. Heck, you can't even tell your room apart for a few minutes. Feels timeless though.
You gotta up your dose bro. Go big or go home.
300mg from a patient extraction works WONDERS
-------------------- My purpose: to love, to share, and to experience....all while conforming to my psychedelic experiences.
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: Why do people need to believe DMT is the secret answer to everything? [Re: TwinEclipse]
#18754389 - 08/25/13 08:20 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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OP is pretty much the biggest hater known to man, and I hate that term.
Rick did experiments and simply reported the results. Some people then twisted his words. Big whoop get a life.
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B_BOY
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Re: Why do people need to believe DMT is the secret answer to everything? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#18754405 - 08/25/13 08:29 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lmao DMT gets you high, it doesn't connect you with aliens or beings for real Spirit molecule? Give me a break you are just high people
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LysergicX7
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Re: Why do people need to believe DMT is the secret answer to everything? [Re: Bill_Oreilly] 1
#18754425 - 08/25/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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There are 2 obscene viewpoints on psychedelics. They both are equally stupid.
LSD, magic mushrooms, DMT, etc ARE THE ANSWERS TO THE UNIVERSE! and LSD, magic mushrooms, DMT, etc etc are just drugs and give you delusions. They are fun, but can't help you at all.
The overly zealous mushroom worshippers and the Joe Molly DMT Is bullshit crowd.
Both these view points suck.
The truth is that yes, psychedelics can give you profound insight into what it means to be human, to be having this life experience. How you can get more out of it, how to improve yourself. They can remove your ego and show you what life actually is, something beyond the ordinary filters of your personality, opinions, beliefs, etc. They offer some beautiful experiences that are very enlightening and insightful. Connection with others, more appreciation of life, etc.
Also, they can cause lots of delusional thinking and can totally fuck you up psychologically if you indulge in this stuff not carefully. I ate my fair share of acid and thought everyone including my friends were Illuminati and were trying to keep me aware of LSD and mushrooms because they connected you with god or some shit like that. I had to sober up for a couple weeks before I realized how foolish I was being.
It's not this or that, it's this and that. Both of these things are valid when it comes to psychedelics. They are tools, and if you take these things with the right intent and responsibility, then you will be rewarded. Abuse it and it abuses you.
There shouldn't be this dichotomous thinking when it comes to psychedelics. We all know what they do.
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TwinEclipse
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Re: Why do people need to believe DMT is the secret answer to everything? [Re: B_BOY]
#18754431 - 08/25/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't think you understand the secret answer referred.....
IMO...The answer is that dying isn't so bad, because it is destined to happen. Just part of a cycle, which is part of various phases belonging to a continuum.
-------------------- My purpose: to love, to share, and to experience....all while conforming to my psychedelic experiences.
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Dark_Star
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Re: Why do people need to believe DMT is the secret answer to everything? [Re: TwinEclipse]
#18754811 - 08/25/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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DMT is great. As to what I actually experienced on it, I can't say. What I can say is that I've had a real NDE, and it was very different from a DMT trip.
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lessismore
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Re: Why do people need to believe DMT is the secret answer to everything? [Re: Dark_Star]
#18754938 - 08/25/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: DMT is great. As to what I actually experienced on it, I can't say. What I can say is that I've had a real NDE, and it was very different from a DMT trip.
Had a NDE on LSD a few times, everything changed from my first one... (3x hofmanns)
and also went to hyperspace on LSD, on 4-5 grey shivas (think they were tested at about 200-220ug each) saw beings in mid air and felt like flying through the air they communicated with thoughts, didn't say a word, but they seemed curious , looked human/alien like
the room was still there, but overlapping visuals, saw the most amazing beings I've seen in my life spiritual beings it looked like, it's the only word that can describe other times there would be eyes everywhere in the room looking at me, and thoughts being transferred + feelings that what I just received was right
it's interesting how much can change when you don't fear death anymore it changes your whole life situation, appreciating and accepting what you have is easier  changes your whole view on life
but it merely made me remember what I already knew deep inside, no new insights
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Dark_Star
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Re: Why do people need to believe DMT is the secret answer to everything? [Re: lessismore]
#18754996 - 08/25/13 12:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was talking about an NDE as in I overdosed on heroin, wasn't breathing & needed to be resuscitated. Literally near death, not just tripping & feeling like I was dying. That's not to take away from the power of a psychedelic ego-death experience, because that it is an incredible & life changing experience. However an actual NDE is different in my experience.
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lessismore
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Re: Why do people need to believe DMT is the secret answer to everything? [Re: Dark_Star]
#18755155 - 08/25/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: I was talking about an NDE as in I overdosed on heroin, wasn't breathing & needed to be resuscitated. Literally near death, not just tripping & feeling like I was dying. That's not to take away from the power of a psychedelic ego-death experience, because that it is an incredible & life changing experience. However an actual NDE is different in my experience.
My nde i was an observer of my whole life 3rd person Someone elses life it felt like
Reviewed it all i wasnt a person at that point It changed everything after it
Kinda movie effect Someone else was living my life and i was watching
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lessismore
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Re: Why do people need to believe DMT is the secret answer to everything? [Re: lessismore]
#18755173 - 08/25/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Anyghing changed after yours?
I dont take anything for granted anymore
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Dark_Star
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Re: Why do people need to believe DMT is the secret answer to everything? [Re: lessismore]
#18755395 - 08/25/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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From the real NDE, no. There was a brief feeling of gratitude the following day, but it faded towards depression fast. I was in a really bad spot at the time, and was unhappy at being brought back. It wasn't intentional by any means, but the period I was gone was very peaceful, and I had hell to pay afterwards. A lot of people to apologize too, shame, a kick to go through. It took me well over a year to clean up my act afterwards as well, and that eventual cleaning up had nothing to do with the NDE.
The psychedelic ego-death experiences, yes I changed profoundly afterwards. However, keeping that perspective requires work, which I didn't do. So that perspective faded. It's been years since I've gone on a trip of that significance, and so the changes are largely gone. I mean I have the perspective of having had those experiences, but as far as how it affects my daily life today; pretty much not at all. It's actually disappointing to look at where my headspace is, compared to where it was during the time period of those experiences.
These experiences are just that; experiences. What you get out of them, and how they wind up affecting your life is entirely up to you & what you do with it. Don't take this experience & the new perspective it engendered for granted, because if you do nothing with it, it will fade over time.
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Yogi1
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Re: Why do people need to believe DMT is the secret answer to everything? [Re: nooneman]
#18763881 - 08/27/13 01:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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nooneman said: It's pretty well known that DMT causes certain people to believe extremely unusual things. This has actually been known about since before the western discovery of DMT. Apparently indigenous users in south America used to call DMT "the great liar." I think this is a very accurate description.
Even Rick Straussman stopped experimenting with DMT partially because of the extremely unusual things that some patients began to believe. It was a major problem, and it didn't happen to everyone who used DMT, only a certain percentage. But that percentage would come out of the experience believing bizarre things that no one could talk them out of.
I'm not bashing DMT here. I'm sure it's one of the best and most beautiful psychedelics. It just has some known side effects.
My friend group has done a lot of DMT and never after one of my experiences did I suddenly believe something... People are known to adopt all kinds of new ideas when they experience something as powerful as a psychedelic experience.
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russhroom
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Re: Why do people need to believe DMT is the secret answer to everything? [Re: FUTURIST]
#18763913 - 08/27/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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FUTURIST said: I'm sorry for my bad typing and spelling... I know I suck.
The Joe Rogan/Rick Strassmen Pseudoscience has made everyone retarded... People blindly believe anything now... with zero proof... For some odd reason people want to believe sooooooo badly that DMT is what happens at birth,death, dreaming and Carry's you into the afterlife... In 23 yrs Rick Strassmen has proved nothing!... And now he says he found DMT in a rats brain... So this is his proof that in fact it is the Spirit molecule!!!... yay!!!!... Rick Strassmen unlocked the secrets to life!!!!.... This is so dumb everyone on Facebook are celebrating like they won the superbowl.. There is a death metal band on Facebook that calls themselves DMT... And they worship DR. Rick Strassmen like a god... And their fans all talk about the Birth,death,dream. facts about DMT everyday... If you are on facebook feel free to question them about facts... They deleted me because I don't think Rick Strassmen is a god... And everyone says to me is, well you don't know everything Strassmen says could be true... thats pretty fuckin weak!... Well can you prove that unicorns don't live on Pluto???... It could be true!... The only smart person I have met when speaking about DMT is Joe Molloy... I wish there were more thinkers like him...
Ok let the bashing of post began!.. All the Rick Strassman nut huggers go!... and btw rick has said many many many times the DMT birth, dream death. was only SPECULATION...
Sounds like you need a fat dose of deemsters...
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