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Ever eaten a coca leaf
    #18751705 - 08/24/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Cocaine sucks, but I'd love to eat some coca leaves.  Anyone ever eaten a coca leaf or know someone who has? 















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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Learyfan] * 1
    #18751768 - 08/24/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: AWS] * 3
    #18751780 - 08/24/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I used to have a plant I loved the tingle in my throat buzz was similar to lots of strong coffee


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Learyfan] * 1
    #18751788 - 08/24/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Back in Jr. high school there were rumors of "a guy" that was selling leaves. I thought coco ? I'll just stick with Nestles. So, no. I didn't find coke until I was out of school...:noob: . . . :peace:


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Learyfan]
    #18751855 - 08/24/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I hear cocoa wine is the tits.


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: blueconfusion]
    #18751885 - 08/24/13 02:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I used to have a plant I loved the tingle in my throat buzz was similar to lots of strong coffee




How did you used to have a plant?















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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Learyfan] * 1
    #18751889 - 08/24/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I drink the tea, it's pretty good but messes with my teeth and gums if I drink too much consecutively.


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: MisterMuscaria] * 1
    #18751923 - 08/24/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Got it from a cutting


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: blueconfusion]
    #18751952 - 08/24/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Someone mailed it to you? 

MisterMuscaria, how were you able to try it?
















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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Learyfan]
    #18752007 - 08/24/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: blueconfusion]
    #18752055 - 08/24/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I want leaves to casually chew on :c mmm cocaine @_@


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Learyfan]
    #18752105 - 08/24/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Someone mailed it to you? 

MisterMuscaria, how were you able to try it?


















I purchased it from Amazon, it's a gray market item.


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Learyfan]
    #18752274 - 08/24/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Cocaine sucks




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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #18752499 - 08/24/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

What?  You can buy coca leaves online?  I just did a search for it, and it appears to be true, but how can that be?  I thought coca leaves were outlawed in 1961.  I've never cared about cocaine, so I've never checked into this before.  School me. 














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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: MilkdudTitties]
    #18752505 - 08/24/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Cocaine sucks




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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18752574 - 08/24/13 06:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It sucks in that it's too dangerous to fuck with and has a high potential to destroy people's lives. 

















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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Learyfan]
    #18752583 - 08/24/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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It sucks in that it's too dangerous to fuck with and has a high potential to destroy people's lives. 



















Its not that bad I have done it once in a blue moon alot of people I know only use moderatly and occasionaly. Personal responsibility is key most people who drink alcohol use responsibily and it is far more damaging than cocaine.


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18752649 - 08/24/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Cocaine is great, better then caffeine hands down, I think you can O.D. easier but it's still healthier for you then shitty caffeine.

It gets a bad rap from crack that's mixed with something you shouldn't be smoking, so people keel over and die after one hit one day.


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18752656 - 08/24/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Exactly, cocaine is a mind expander drug, the hang over and overuse effects aren't the same as the ones you get from alcohol so the goverment doesn't want that type of perspective available to people, now it's just evolved into fascism.


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Konyap]
    #18752664 - 08/24/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

What's worse, a shitty society addicted to a drug that dumbs them down and makes them complacent with their life or a bunch of hyped up people getting together and talking, fucking etc...


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Konyap]
    #18752699 - 08/24/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

for me cocaine only gets interesting at the point where you get psychotic.  before that you might as well just drink a couple cups of coffee coke barely even feels like a drug.


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: teamkiller]
    #18752701 - 08/24/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Konyap]
    #18752707 - 08/24/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I only did it once just because, it's arguably my favorite drug.

It doesn't take over your body like other drugs.


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Konyap]
    #18752830 - 08/24/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You're smarter and stronger than all those coke addicts out there, aren't you. 















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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Learyfan]
    #18752839 - 08/24/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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You're smarter and stronger than all those coke addicts out there, aren't you. 

















No I just use responsibly I its really not that hard. I am not arrogant enough to claim superiority over others though since I myself come up short in many aspects.


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18752861 - 08/24/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Every coke addict thought they could handle it until they couldn't.  Don't take it lightly. 















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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Learyfan] * 1
    #18753102 - 08/24/13 09:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I've been able to manage sparing recreational coke use since I was a teen.  And by sparingly, I mean in 10+ years I've done coke less than 10 times.  It's fun and it's pretty more-ish but I never went back out and got more or anything once it was gone, and that was very easy to do.  Good coke is GOOOOOOOD but I'd rather smoke some weed any day.


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: abltsandwich]
    #18753120 - 08/24/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I've been able to manage sparing recreational coke use since I was a teen.  And by sparingly, I mean in 10+ years I've done coke less than 10 times.  It's fun and it's pretty more-ish but I never went back out and got more or anything once it was gone, and that was very easy to do.  Good coke is GOOOOOOOD but I'd rather smoke some weed any day.



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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #18753123 - 08/24/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Exactly, cocaine is a mind expander drug, the hang over and overuse effects aren't the same as the ones you get from alcohol so the goverment doesn't want that type of perspective available to people, now it's just evolved into fascism.




cocaine is a mind expander? give me a break :lol: coke is what I would call a "bad drug" along with heroin, meth, and others. not that I dont do bad drugs, but its sure as hell not a mind expander. and plus coke sucks anyway


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #18753129 - 08/24/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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and plus coke sucks anyway



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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18753358 - 08/24/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

OK real talk, I can't fathom anyone not liking cocaine if they got a good line of good shit.  Maybe its aftereffects are less than desirable but the high itself is fucking fantastic when it's good coke.


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: abltsandwich]
    #18753374 - 08/24/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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OK real talk, I can't fathom anyone not liking cocaine if they got a good line of good shit.  Maybe its aftereffects are less than desirable but the high itself is fucking fantastic when it's good coke.




yeah well when I say coke sucks I mean more overall. yeah I guess the highs cool if you get some good shit but its expensive and doesn't last long at all. its just..subtle. I liked it with heroin though


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Learyfan]
    #18753413 - 08/24/13 10:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

ugh i fucking hate cocaine.

coca leaves would be cool though. seems like one of those drugs that would be way better in its natural form. Think when i first joined this site i was asking around for sources to buy a coca plant, but all i could find were seedlings @ $150 or some shit. I guess it would be worth it if you were a great gardener and could ensure the survival of the seedling.

nobody would ever walk up and notice a coca plant growing in your yard. just another tree.


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #18753416 - 08/24/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

different brain chemistrys probably too.  Like i said for me its very meh till you hear voices and shit.


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: teamkiller]
    #18753422 - 08/24/13 10:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

its all about brain chemistry with any drug. pot is amazing for some people and the worst experience ever for the next. alcohol turns one person into a happy social butterfly, and the next into a blackout drunk physically abusive moron.



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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: ManianFH]
    #18753560 - 08/24/13 11:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Cocaine after effects, give me a break. I know people I used to go to school with that sniff every fucking day


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Learyfan]
    #18753901 - 08/25/13 02:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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What?  You can buy coca leaves online?  I just did a search for it, and it appears to be true, but how can that be?  I thought coca leaves were outlawed in 1961.  I've never cared about cocaine, so I've never checked into this before.  School me. 







I dont think you can buy legit coca leaves on amazon. you may find coca tea, but that has little to no active alkloids in it :undecided:


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: danlennon3]
    #18753929 - 08/25/13 02:45 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The leaves are pretty good. I used to mix them with baking soda & Gin, and pack in the mouth.
Not tasty, but a good thing indeed.
    The numbness is really pronounced, and the buzz is mild & smooth.
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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Oeric McKenna]
    #18753943 - 08/25/13 03:00 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

taken from wiki:

The pharmacologically active ingredient of coca is the coca alkaloid, which is found in the amount of about 0.3 to 1.5%, averaging 0.8%,[14] in fresh leaves

Addiction or other deleterious effects from the consumption of the leaf in its natural form have not been documented in over a 5,000 year time span, thus leading to the logical conclusion that coca left in its natural form causes no addictive properties at all.[16][17] There is no empirical evidence showing the coca plant's potential for addiction.[4] In fact, coca helps recovering cocaine addicts to wean off the drug in favor of traditional uses,[18] and live their lives without preoccupying themselves with a fix.


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Konyap]
    #18753944 - 08/25/13 03:03 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

3. Why is the coca leaf banned?

In 1961 the coca leaf was listed on Schedule I of the UN Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs together with cocaine and heroin, with a strict control level on medical and scientific use.

The inclusion of coca leaf in Schedule I was done with a dual purpose: to phase out coca chewing and to prevent the manufacture of cocaine. The Single Convention mandated to destroy coca bush if illegally cultivated (Article 26) and that coca leaf chewing must be abolished within a 25-year period (Article 49) - i.e. by December 1989, 25 years after the coming into force of the treaty.

The rationale for including the coca leaf in the 1961 Single Convention is mainly rooted in a report by the ECOSOC Commission of Enquiry on the Coca Leaf in 1950, after a brief visit to Bolivia and Peru in 1949.

It concluded that the effects of chewing coca leaves were negative, even though it “does not at present appear that the chewing of the coca leaf can be regarded as a drug addiction in the medical sense”. The WHO expert Committee on Drug Dependence later withdrew this argument, labeling coca use as a form of cocainism.

The ECOSOC report was sharply criticised for the makeup of its researchers, its arbitrariness, poor methodology, lack of precision and racist connotations. Nowadays, a similar study would never pass the scrutiny and critical review to which scientific studies are routinely subjected.


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Konyap]
    #18753945 - 08/25/13 03:03 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Nevertheless, in their 2007 annual report the INCB retracted on its earlier position and called on countries to "abolish or prohibit coca leaf chewing and the manufacture of coca tea."


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Konyap]
    #18753946 - 08/25/13 03:03 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

What are you even trying to prove?  Why are you replying to yourself with more Wiki copypasta?


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: abltsandwich]
    #18753957 - 08/25/13 03:11 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I forgot what the active dose was and I thought the other stuff was well written, also I'd like to chew some leaves too! :trippingsheens:


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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Konyap]
    #18753967 - 08/25/13 03:17 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I think it wouldn't grow in my climate though.

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Re: Ever eaten a coca leaf [Re: Konyap]
    #18808046 - 09/06/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have the best memories of consuming coca, it really helped with the alititude


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