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Loss of of 50% of healthy new Kratom plant's large leaves
    #18751232 - 08/24/13 12:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I have had my ~5" kratom in a humidity dome since I got it two days ago. I have kept the soil damp and sprayed the leaves twice daily with water.I was planning on transplanting today, but am concerned at the number of leaves I have lost. I lost two the first day, one was clearly already dead on arrival (from shipping, so I am not too worried about this one) and the other was healthy. Today when removing the humidity dome another perfectly healthy leaf fell off. It barely touched the plastic bag as it came off. I have 3 big leaves left and am afraid I will lose them all. The plant shows no signs of wilting and seems to be pretty healthy.

I want to transplant today, but I would like to figure out the leaf situation first. Any suggestions? Thanks.


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Re: Loss of of 50% of healthy new Kratom plant's large leaves [Re: floatingnoodles]
    #18752782 - 08/24/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Probably transplant/shipping shock. So long as the stem doesn't seem to be declining it should put out some new growth once accustomed to its new environment. Do all the growing points look healthy?


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    #18752931 - 08/24/13 08:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Loss of of 50% of healthy new Kratom plant's large leaves [Re: Sillyputty67]
    #18756805 - 08/25/13 07:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the replies

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Probably transplant/shipping shock. So long as the stem doesn't seem to be declining it should put out some new growth once accustomed to its new environment. Do all the growing points look healthy?



The growing points look healthy to me. I guess as long  as I don't lose any more leaves in the next few days, I should be okay.


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I accidentally dry shocked my plant a little bit, as it started to wilt just a bit. I prepped the soil, and planted it, and it perked right back up. The soil is a tiny bit on the damp side, but the plant is moving in a positive direction. I have new healthy leaves forming.

I have no humidity tent. I mist once a day, and have it in a shady window that only gets direct sunlight 4 hours a day, and by my estimation is going well. This is also in my bedroom, and i run AC in there. My room is about a constant 66 degrees.

I know these conditions are not optimal, however my plant is doing well.


OP, i just read this the other night, and itd be cool if veteran botanists chimed in here, but i heard that adding ionic silver to the soil combats root parasites in tropical plants.





I removed my humidity dome after transplanting and it seemed okay today. I am misting once or twice a day as well. This morning I moved it to a shady window in my cellar.

Also, it would be interesting to find out if there is truth to the ionic silver in tropical plants. That could come in handy :smile:.


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Re: Loss of of 50% of healthy new Kratom plant's large leaves [Re: floatingnoodles]
    #18762417 - 08/27/13 02:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I grow salvia, however I;ve heard they grow very similar. I let my plants slightly limp from dry soil before actually watering the soil, but I make sure to keep the humidity high and the leaves misted throughout the day and that alone will keep the plant alive. First question, how overtaken is the current pot with roots? Make sure it absolutely needs to be transplanted before doing so, I'd wait until you have the plant accustomed to its current growing environment, id wait at least a week personally. Its growth may be stunted temporarily due to shipping shock, as long as you dont kill it by over/under watering then theoretically it should be fine.
When you DO up-pot it, make sure to mix in some extra perlite & get some seed starting soil to mix in with the base soil, your plants will thank you for it :smile:
Get a aquarium, or large mason jar, or something similar to use for humidity, I dont like bags personally as they tend to leak humidity more than a jar or aquarium. I keep all my cuttings under small plastic fish tanks or large mason jars


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Re: Loss of of 50% of healthy new Kratom plant's large leaves [Re: Pirax]
    #18764078 - 08/27/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I grow salvia, however I;ve heard they grow very similar. I let my plants slightly limp from dry soil before actually watering the soil, but I make sure to keep the humidity high and the leaves misted throughout the day and that alone will keep the plant alive. First question, how overtaken is the current pot with roots? Make sure it absolutely needs to be transplanted before doing so, I'd wait until you have the plant accustomed to its current growing environment, id wait at least a week personally. Its growth may be stunted temporarily due to shipping shock, as long as you dont kill it by over/under watering then theoretically it should be fine.
When you DO up-pot it, make sure to mix in some extra perlite & get some seed starting soil to mix in with the base soil, your plants will thank you for it :smile:
Get a aquarium, or large mason jar, or something similar to use for humidity, I dont like bags personally as they tend to leak humidity more than a jar or aquarium. I keep all my cuttings under small plastic fish tanks or large mason jars




Thanks for the advice. I actually have already transplanted it into a mix of 1/3 perlite 2/3 miracle grow potting soil. I currently don't have a humidity dome on it, but maybe I should put it back on. Unfortunately all of my mason jars are too small and I don't currently have an aquarium.

I have added a few pictures (sorry for quality of pictures) of the plant today below:




Let me know what you think. Thanks.


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Re: Loss of of 50% of healthy new Kratom plant's large leaves [Re: floatingnoodles]
    #18764511 - 08/27/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Well, it is certainly not spider mites... the fuckers killed every single leaf on my salvia, and are now going after my kratom...


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Re: Loss of of 50% of healthy new Kratom plant's large leaves [Re: rew736]
    #18765174 - 08/27/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Well, it is certainly not spider mites... the fuckers killed every single leaf on my salvia, and are now going after my kratom...



Yeah. It's indoors for now, so I shouldn't have a bug issue. I just hope it's not dying from something else. Any further input from Kratom growers is much appreciated :smile:

Also, I see you are in the states and have Salvia. Is that still legal to sell? Last I searched it was still legal in most places, but there are almost no vendors selling it. Is there a certain time of the year to buy plants?


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Re: Loss of of 50% of healthy new Kratom plant's large leaves [Re: floatingnoodles]
    #18765329 - 08/27/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Nah, some states and even some cities have banned it, so I suppose most vendors just don't want to deal with it. Your best bet if you want one would be to trade from a friend. But just so you know, spider mites can still exist indoors. They thrive on the sap of plants, biting the leaves and sucking them dry. They are so small you can't even see them. You could tap the leaves, while holding white paper underneath. then examine the paper for the fuckers. OR just use a magnifying glass.

Good luck, and hope you don't have the mites,

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malicom said:
"Banana's emit radiation. In fact banannas are the standard in detecting solar radiation. The radiation read from a bananna tells scientists how active the sun was during the growing season. Make sure to steer clear of bananas too."
seekaytea said:
"I need to stop spending all my money on plants and take up a cheaper hobby, like heroin."
Wiccan_Seeker said:
"Your knowledge on male-on-male rape and willingness to engage in fantasy regarding the matter is commendable."
eminemvs.slimshady said:
"I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?"


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Re: Loss of of 50% of healthy new Kratom plant's large leaves [Re: rew736]
    #18765410 - 08/27/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Nah, some states and even some cities have banned it, so I suppose most vendors just don't want to deal with it. Your best bet if you want one would be to trade from a friend. But just so you know, spider mites can still exist indoors. They thrive on the sap of plants, biting the leaves and sucking them dry. They are so small you can't even see them. You could tap the leaves, while holding white paper underneath. then examine the paper for the fuckers. OR just use a magnifying glass.

Good luck, and hope you don't have the mites,

Cheers!



Thanks, good to know. The leaves don't seem to be showing too much wear. I was just concerned becasue two perfectly healthy leaves popped off like they were barely attached. I think it may have just been shipping shock as others suggested. Hopefully I can get get this guy looking a little healthier in coming days.

Thanks again.


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Re: Loss of of 50% of healthy new Kratom plant's large leaves [Re: floatingnoodles]
    #18765430 - 08/27/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Did you pull them or eve touch them? I have had tiny leaves just shear off when it decided to touch them and see if they were flexible. If this is the situation, no fear, everything should be alright.

Keep us posted,

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malicom said:
"Banana's emit radiation. In fact banannas are the standard in detecting solar radiation. The radiation read from a bananna tells scientists how active the sun was during the growing season. Make sure to steer clear of bananas too."
seekaytea said:
"I need to stop spending all my money on plants and take up a cheaper hobby, like heroin."
Wiccan_Seeker said:
"Your knowledge on male-on-male rape and willingness to engage in fantasy regarding the matter is commendable."
eminemvs.slimshady said:
"I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?"


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Re: Loss of of 50% of healthy new Kratom plant's large leaves [Re: rew736]
    #18765717 - 08/27/13 08:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Did you pull them or eve touch them? I have had tiny leaves just shear off when it decided to touch them and see if they were flexible. If this is the situation, no fear, everything should be alright.

Keep us posted,

Cheers!




Yeah, it was touching the side of the humidity dome when I pulled it off.  Hopefully there is nothing to worry about :smile:.


I hear these trees grow relatively fast. I will be purchasing some organic seaweed fertilizer and possibly a blue t5 light to aid window-side growth.

Thanks for your help.


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Re: Loss of of 50% of healthy new Kratom plant's large leaves [Re: floatingnoodles]
    #18765724 - 08/27/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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malicom said:
"Banana's emit radiation. In fact banannas are the standard in detecting solar radiation. The radiation read from a bananna tells scientists how active the sun was during the growing season. Make sure to steer clear of bananas too."
seekaytea said:
"I need to stop spending all my money on plants and take up a cheaper hobby, like heroin."
Wiccan_Seeker said:
"Your knowledge on male-on-male rape and willingness to engage in fantasy regarding the matter is commendable."
eminemvs.slimshady said:
"I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?"


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Re: Loss of of 50% of healthy new Kratom plant's large leaves [Re: floatingnoodles]
    #18766226 - 08/27/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Your plant looks fine. New growth is coming through. It's just adjusting.


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Re: Loss of of 50% of healthy new Kratom plant's large leaves [Re: karode13]
    #18767843 - 08/28/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Your plant looks fine. New growth is coming through. It's just adjusting.



Thanks.

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Its funny with new cultivars. I did the same thing with my shrooms, and also was paranoid about my kratom plant.

I totally understand the paranoia, as these plants are 40$ apiece.

Best way to look at it is the worst case scenario is a dead plant, and experience. Same with everything.




Very true :smile:. I am always paranoid of losing new plants. Especially as expensive as they can be.

I just lost my stevia the other day because I hadn't done proper research before it arrived. It just kept wilting and wilting and I'm still not sure why. Fortunately it was only a few dollars.

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