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Shiitake Mushrooms Cultivation
    #18750702 - 08/24/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hi aLL
I bought some shiitake mushroom spawn over the internet - this is what i got after 2 weeks - can some who had tried to cultivate these before, can tell me if I am on the right track?

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Re: Shiitake Mushrooms Cultivation [Re: cultiv]
    #18750708 - 08/24/13 09:31 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

also I noticed that saw chips are changing colour from pale yellow to orange


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Re: Shiitake Mushrooms Cultivation [Re: cultiv]
    #18750737 - 08/24/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hard to tell.  It should be further along than that at two weeks though.  What type of bag/filter/container is it?
Not a good idea to open the bag/container to take a picture.  Very efficient way to introduce green in a hurry.


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Re: Shiitake Mushrooms Cultivation [Re: cultiv]
    #18750747 - 08/24/13 09:40 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I dont think green is such a problem with hardwood loving species...



What kind of woodchips are those? Is there anything else in the substrate? How did you prepare them?


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Re: Shiitake Mushrooms Cultivation [Re: centipad]
    #18751184 - 08/24/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I dont think green is such a problem with hardwood loving species...





Wish that were true!!


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Re: Shiitake Mushrooms Cultivation [Re: mycoloco]
    #18751642 - 08/24/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

thanks for your replies
I am totally new to cultivation of mushrooms and this is my first trial - so excuse me if I have done mistakes :laugh:

so regarding to substrate - i prepared the following mixture (3KG)

1% chalk
25% straw
75% wood shavings (i have no idea from which wood it was taken, the package only says 100% natural wood - I bought it for €2 only so I won't be surprised if it is softwood)
1 cup sugar

I've wet everything and then placed them for 20 minute in the microwave

after it cooled, I added 60 grams of Shiitake spawn and mixed it well

I placed it in a plastic container and covered it with a bag on top

Now it has been there for 2 weeks


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Re: Shiitake Mushrooms Cultivation [Re: cultiv]
    #18751646 - 08/24/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I am noticing that most of the growth is on the straw and little on the wood shavings


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Re: Shiitake Mushrooms Cultivation [Re: cultiv]
    #18751693 - 08/24/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I have never used sugar in any of my grows.  That seems awfully rich.  A cup of bran for shiitake in 3kg would be pushing it.
If you don't have a pressure cooker try the shiitake with just the first three ingredients and pasteurize it. 
Shiitake will need some type of filter for air exchange too.  It won't grow well without a bit of air.


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Re: Shiitake Mushrooms Cultivation [Re: Jeff]
    #18751757 - 08/24/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

thanks for your comment
i added sugar to compensate for the lack of nutrients in case the shavings are from soft wood (from the price I take it that it is soft)

I did not seal the container - it is loosely closed with a bag so there is an exchange of air (no filter though but so far doesn't seem that i have a contamination)


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Re: Shiitake Mushrooms Cultivation [Re: cultiv]
    #18752784 - 08/24/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

sugar. no.  Don't add it!  A little whole grain bran will go a long way as previously stated.


To me the shavings look like pine.  Conifer trees have anti microbial/anti fungal properties to them.

I would try again and try to find a place to obtain oak and other hardwood chips/shavings.  Sawmills. tree trimmer folks. arborists.  the local utility companies.  all good sources for wood chips.


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Re: Shiitake Mushrooms Cultivation [Re: centipad]
    #18754501 - 08/25/13 09:08 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

There is nothing wrong with adding sugar as a supplement. Sometimes i do it for lions mane or king oysters too; it is not an uncommon ingredient in a sawdust substrate mix.


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Re: Shiitake Mushrooms Cultivation [Re: Aleon]
    #18754909 - 08/25/13 11:46 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

anyone knows if shiitake mushrooms grow on horse manure?


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Re: Shiitake Mushrooms Cultivation [Re: cultiv]
    #18755188 - 08/25/13 01:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Definitely not.  Shitakes need a fairly fresh hardwood substrate.  As for the sugar...never tried that.  We always used rye & wheat bran as a source of glucose.


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Re: Shiitake Mushrooms Cultivation [Re: centipad]
    #18755206 - 08/25/13 01:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Trichoderma can infect blocks if you have not enough FAE and too much moisture.  It looked like the block was really dry though.


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Re: Shiitake Mushrooms Cultivation [Re: Aleon]
    #18755734 - 08/25/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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There is nothing wrong with adding sugar as a supplement. Sometimes i do it for lions mane or king oysters too; it is not an uncommon ingredient in a sawdust substrate mix.





I never knew about adding sugar ever.  I only cultivate shiitake on plugged logs. 




The japanese use 2-3kg sugar per 100kg of woodchips.
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Re: Shiitake Mushrooms Cultivation [Re: centipad]
    #18758436 - 08/26/13 03:57 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

the few instructions that i got say that it is okay to use softwood (instead of hardwood) but then you have to supplement it with other nutrients e.g. sugar
thus why I added the sugar


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Re: Shiitake Mushrooms Cultivation [Re: cultiv]
    #18767235 - 08/28/13 05:25 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It is getting more evident that almost all the growth that i am having is on the straw and little to none on the wood shavings - do you think it would be a good idea if next time i try to grow it on 100% straw?



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Re: Shiitake Mushrooms Cultivation [Re: cultiv]
    #18770108 - 08/28/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

This shiitake was grown on plain, pasteurized unsupplemented straw.



It is also an example of less pins makes for bigger fruits!


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Re: Shiitake Mushrooms Cultivation [Re: Jeff]
    #18770972 - 08/28/13 10:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Not a good idea to open the bag/container to take a picture.  Very efficient way to introduce green in a hurry.




:whathesaid:

Do you keep opening the container to check / take pictures?


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Re: Shiitake Mushrooms Cultivation [Re: Forrester]
    #18771592 - 08/29/13 01:48 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I check it at least once a week - otherwise how can i know what is going on! - so far i dont have any contamination


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