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Saturdays first haul goin back out!
#18750680 - 08/24/13 09:24 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Habitat: All found within mile radius mixed forests with pine trees. #1 was found near a pond.
Gills: 1. neon yellow/green, attached, has gills waiting on spore print. 2. white gills, attached. 3. no gills beige color. 4. yellow gills attached, waiting on spore print. 5. brown attached gills, waiting on spore print. 6. white gills attached, spore color white. 7. 3 have gills all attached two are white colored and one is brown. awaiting spore prints.
Stem: 1. orange and white. 2. tan. 3. beige 4. yellow 5. brown 6. white 7. white
Cap: 1. white and orange wavy 2. white and brown 3. wavy gold and brown 4. yellow and orange 5. brown fuzzy caps 6. yellow orange and white warts. 7. 5 are pins, 2 brown acorn looking caps, 5 flat round to wavy caps one of which has been identified as amanita vaginatae in previous post so not deadly but cows like to eat them!
Spore print color: awaiting on all unidentified.
Bruising: looking for bruising none yet hasnt been long.
Other information: a friend gave me permission to hunt his property afterwards I went around asking if I could have permission to look for mushrooms and got 3 more places to hunt!
1. unknown to me. The pics dint show it but the gills are neon yellowish green. please exclude bottm right mushie.



 2. just a neat pic dint get pic of gills that was clear but they were white.
 3. unknown to me. pores instead of gills.

 4. unknown to me. orange and yellow cap. yellow stipe.

 5. unknown to me. Found these all over around a pit where a pine tree used to be under a bunch of existing pines.






 6. unknown to me growing under pines.

 7. Amanita Muscaria var guessowii I believe.







 7. possible deadly mushies. couple I think are parosols.




 group phot dont mind the second one down on far right. tried not to have it in there forgot.


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Re: Saturdays first haul goin back out! [Re: xfsketch]
#18755607 - 08/25/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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no guesses?
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Re: Saturdays first haul goin back out! [Re: xfsketch]
#18755621 - 08/25/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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i believe 2 and 4 are mycena 7 i agree with Amanita Muscaria var guessowii
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Re: Saturdays first haul goin back out! [Re: Labs4858]
#18755674 - 08/25/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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1. Hypholoma fasicular
3 is a Polyporus sp.
4 looks like a gymnopus to me.
5 is an inocybe sp.
The last two pics you have what looks like an Agaricus, Amanita, and a Chlorophyllum of some sort.
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Re: Saturdays first haul goin back out! [Re: Ganzig]
#18755760 - 08/25/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Print one (or all) of the Chlorophyllum specimens. It will at least narrow it down to weather it is C. molybdites or not which is very helpful.
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Re: Saturdays first haul goin back out! [Re: Untitled]
#18755998 - 08/25/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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TY uys. so the Chlorophyllum is pretty much a type of parasol that has 1, poisonous version? I read on wiki. so if I spore print them I could know for sure ok. I dont plan to eat em.
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Re: Saturdays first haul goin back out! [Re: xfsketch]
#18756785 - 08/25/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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From what I understand, the Chlorophyllum are the only green spored shrooms, so any green print, toss it.
Are you printing all of your shrooms? Since you seem to have easy access, maybe take along some printer paper and just taking one or two of a specimen that you think will print well, remove the cap and wrap the cap and stem in the piece of paper by making a little packet out of it, cap on the bottom, stem on top, fold the top over a few times then fold the sides. Maybe staple it. That'd keep your collections separate and by the time you got back home and unwrapped them you'd have your spore prints.
Looks like you're taking whole bunches of shrooms that probably aren't consumable and they get a bit beat by the time you make it back. I don't think there's much point in taking shrooms that are too far gone to print.
Are you drying/freezing those muscaria or just tossing 'em?
I'm working on a theory that it might be best to post up one or two shrooms at a time for id. More than a couple and it gets confusing trying to keep it all straight even if they're numbered. Or maybe I've just got terminal brain fade. ;-) It rained a bit here today so I'm planning for my ids down the road a bit...
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Re: Saturdays first haul goin back out! [Re: fry day]
#18756842 - 08/25/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ty Fry_day I will do that packet Idea sounds awesome. the mushrooms do get beat up since Im on a quad. The one Idea someone gave me to use thin paper to absorb the shock works but sometimes I go out hunting on a whim and forget to restock my atv. Some of the mushrooms I dont get to until later and they sit on a screen with a fan blowing on them. I take pics fresh and let them all dry just in case. I took all the amanita guessowii and dried them by fan and then at lowest temp on over with door cracked. didnt have desecent packs so I put them in jars with lids and then placed the jars in oat containers in my pantry. tried some they are pretty potent but not super badass. Ive heard of freezing them but havent tried it yet. I agree It can be confusing to have multiple pics in one post. from now on Ill just make posts with 2 or less. thats probably why I have been getting less replies lately. I know you guys are uber smart and us noobs can be quite lazy in comparison. Im learning a lot and with time and steady advice I think I could even become a member. Thanx again!
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Edited by xfsketch (08/25/13 08:27 PM)
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Re: Saturdays first haul goin back out! [Re: xfsketch]
#18756893 - 08/25/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also no Im not printing all my shrooms but If I have no idea what it is I am printing them. I should do it to every one of them I agree. I just got caught up in the amanita hunts and spent less time on the other shrooms for a while. I feel bad Im always doing this to you.
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Re: Saturdays first haul goin back out! [Re: xfsketch]
#18756901 - 08/25/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just figure that if you're interested in ids, the more info/spore print/nice presentation are gonna get better quicker answers. The problem is filing all this info for later retrieval. LOL.
I've decided I like putting my pics in month/year folders, that way I have a no brainer way to know what species are out at various times of the year. At least that's my theory.
A brown butcher paper would be kinda nice for that also, but then there'd be the hassle of cutting it into appropriate sized pieces, but you could get white prints also.
Just regular 8.5x11 is a convenient size and everyone has it. ;-)
I just cringe when I see 'em all munged. Or the pic in another thread of the coprinoids that look like they were in a baggy in someone's sweaty pocket all day. Ewwww. Black slime.
Hey - strap a big milk crate or styrofoam box to the back of that sucka. If you have any little thing separating your collections and keeping them from bouncing around it helps a lot. That and keeping them cool. Clean rags, anything. And plenty of room so they don't get squished by too much stuff on top.
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Re: Saturdays first haul goin back out! [Re: fry day]
#18756912 - 08/25/13 08:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh, drying - get 'em cracker dry, before you seal them you want them to "temper", (the good eats video detailed all of that), put them in a jar in a dry place where you can see whassup and leave the cap a bit loose, make sure there's nothing odd happening in a week or so, then seal 'em up.
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Re: Saturdays first haul goin back out! [Re: fry day]
#18756920 - 08/25/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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ok TY yes I like the feeling of finding something and figuring out what it is. or better yet beng told what it is then confirming it on here lol. the butchers paper sounds like a great Idead as well as the milk crate. I have a cargo bag/seat on my atv and carry my ipad on the front along with a tiny red cooler. I just havent been spending enough time on prep. I agree the problem is filing all this info for later retrieval I think folders for seasons is a great idea too.
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Re: Saturdays first haul goin back out! [Re: xfsketch]
#18756942 - 08/25/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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ok Fry_Day TY again. I did get them cracker dry then noticed after a day or two they softened a bit. so I re dried a couple of them. the rest turned out fine. I like the loose jar idea. I have them in a dark place in the pantry dont know how cool it is in there tho. If I were to freeze them can this be done the way they are dried? Ill have to look up the good eats video dont think I seen that.
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Re: Saturdays first haul goin back out! [Re: xfsketch]
#18757054 - 08/25/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Freezing after drying is good to kill any little buggers still in there that the drying didn't drive off. But it seems redundant to me to keep 'em frozen. I don't have much freezer space.
So I learned today in a vid that the flavor is lost with chanterelles if they're dried, so sauteeing lightly and freezing is the better way with those. But you can only keep stuff in the std freezer for < 6 months. Drying and vac packing is virtually forever, tho' I've been nibbling on some muscaria I put up in '10 and it doesn't seem to have much oomph.
I dry mine in the oven with the ceramic bulb on a dimmer, and a remote thermometer, I try to keep it btw 115 - 120. I also have some 12v fans on an old power supply that's stashed in the broiler, but I don't use my oven for baking, got a convection. I don't need to kick on the fans unless I've got some fatties or a big load in there. It takes a min of a coupla days to get them dry enough to jar, then I give 'em a bit on the counter before I vac seal the jars with the seal-a-meal. Haven't lost any yet to buggers or mold. I also have a thermostat setup for reptiles - you plug your heat source into it and the probe goes into your space to cycle power to keep a temp, but I haven't put that into the mix, it was buried when I set up and the dimmer seems to do okay.
Maybe watch that whole vid again - Alton really does cover every base on how to dry and ensure that they will keep.
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Re: Saturdays first haul goin back out! [Re: fry day]
#18757106 - 08/25/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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TY for the detailed info Fry_Day! I agree that drying them would be best for later consumption. I froze some chicken of the woods and thawed it a week later and ate it Mmm! when I dried the guessowii my lowest temp on my oven was 170, I left the door cracked and pulled the rack out a little so it could be hit by air with a fan I set up on a chair. I like your methods and seen someone do the same thing here online. I seen someone put a small electric heater in the oven to do this too. Im thinking of using one of the ideas I seen to make a drying chamber suitable for this type of thing. Waiting on money lol. what is a seal-a-meal? I shoulda looked it up I know. Also do you have a link for that video?
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Re: Saturdays first haul goin back out! [Re: xfsketch]
#18758978 - 08/26/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here's the vid you need for drying:
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Re: Saturdays first haul goin back out! [Re: fry day]
#18759215 - 08/26/13 10:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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TY Fry_day!!!
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Re: Saturdays first haul goin back out! [Re: xfsketch]
#18759872 - 08/26/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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de nada.
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Re: Saturdays first haul goin back out! [Re: xfsketch]
#18760635 - 08/26/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
xfsketch said: TY uys. so the Chlorophyllum is pretty much a type of parasol that has 1, poisonous version? I read on wiki. so if I spore print them I could know for sure ok. I dont plan to eat em.
Macrolepiota procera is the normal 'Parasol' and Chlorophyllum rhacodes/brunneum/olivieri are the 'Shaggy Parasol'. C. molybdites is slightly different from the shaggy parasols usually and also has green spores where the others have white spores. It is also more of a grassland species where the Shaggy Parasols prefer the shade of woodland.
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Re: Saturdays first haul goin back out! [Re: Untitled]
#18760709 - 08/26/13 05:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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TY Untitled needed that info.
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