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Invisibleanne halonium
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Re: i owe 350,000 dollars on default student loans [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19218192 - 12/02/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

if your in the in the loop, get a collar and ketchup.
if your outside the loop, who are you judging and what,
and ,by what standard?


you amuse me zap.
on one level ya seem like your smart enough ,
but, it seems like your still pretending to believe.

sorry , new age new rules.
all notions of finance, and who pays/ who doesnt,
assumes the present clown car wont crash for cash.
it will, its written into the circus.
anyone sane with a capitalist spirit,
is hedging margins, over time.
your definitions of the details amount to your paradigm, not mine.

its pure business.
your opinion means little ,
treasure means lots.


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Offlinezappaisgod
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Re: i owe 350,000 dollars on default student loans [Re: anne halonium]
    #19218225 - 12/02/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

anne halonium said:
if your in the in the loop, get a collar and ketchup.
if your outside the loop, who are you judging and what,
and ,by what standard?


you amuse me zap.
on one level ya seem like your smart enough ,
but, it seems like your still pretending to believe.

sorry , new age new rules.
all notions of finance, and who pays/ who doesnt,
assumes the present clown car wont crash for cash.
it will, its written into the circus.
anyone with a capitalist spirit, is hedging margins, over time.

pure business.
your opinion means little ,
treasure means lots.



Pulitzer worthy gibberish.  I'll send you my address.  Send me what you're taking.

The clown car will crash when there becomes a critical mass of deadbeat bums who don't pay the money they took back.  Or we can go to the bentnose solution.  I've always been intrigued that nobody defaults on the bentnose guys.


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Re: i owe 350,000 dollars on default student loans [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19218272 - 12/02/13 05:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

lol.
you should read some of the forums here.
anyone who has some luck and a few bucks,
can really have some good times......

youd really have to consult approved sponsors,
as im always non commercial.

bums, cause clown cars to wreck?.
novel.
how ayn rand.

i see excatly where your at.
" fuck everyone as long as " you " dont get the bill."
your care, is no more than propping the system you got suckered into.

so now, your moralizng with hypocrisy, defending a system about to collapse , with an outdated paradigm, on a lawless financial playing field.

wow.
your one of those commies that pretends to be a captialist. and then pulls hazy morality to justify it.
wow.

for a minit, i thought ya were just razzing me.


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Re: i owe 350,000 dollars on default student loans [Re: anne halonium]
    #19218402 - 12/02/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

anne halonium said:
lol.
you should read some of the forums here.
anyone who has some luck and a few bucks,
can really have some good times......

youd really have to consult approved sponsors,
as im always non commercial.

bums, cause clown cars to wreck?.
novel.
how ayn rand.

i see excatly where your at.
" fuck everyone as long as " you " dont get the bill."
your care, is no more than propping the system you got suckered into.

so now, your moralizng with hypocrisy, defending a system about to collapse , with an outdated paradigm, on a lawless financial playing field.

wow.
your one of those commies that pretends to be a captialist. and then pulls hazy morality to justify it.
wow.

for a minit, i thought ya were just razzing me.



More poetry.  I'm sorry that your parents shit the bed and pissed away all your grandparents' money.  Was it drugs?

Any collapse will be due to the bums who don't repay the money they borrow.  This is why I support bentnose justice.  Do you know what that is, princess?

The only morality I advocate is being responsible for yourself and accepting the consequences of your actions.  You do know what the word "responsibility" means, right, princess?


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Re: i owe 350,000 dollars on default student loans [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #19218441 - 12/02/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Anybody who doesn't repay the money they borrow is a scumbag.




I'd rather be a scumbag than be a lone martyr for the cause of student loan repayment.  You can keep your high minded ideals, I'm going to live as pragmatically as I can.  That means taking as much as I can and giving back as little as I can.


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Re: i owe 350,000 dollars on default student loans [Re: DieCommie]
    #19218467 - 12/02/13 05:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

"^taking as much as I can and giving back as little as I can.^"

i try and be a little more sanguine, and robin hood-ette about it.
i always loot an extra 15% for charity and tips.
i also try and keep it with in the geneva conventions , and most maritime treaties,
but ya. beyond the basics,
get yours now.

fundamentally, 2 types of cars in the race.
those ahead, and those flaming in the rear view mirror.
try not to injure the spectators.

good luck.

oh,
and remember zap, its my responsibility, as princess ,
to  over bill you double for nothing ,
plus tax and tip and service fees with interest.
if you feel morally responsible to pay it......
please by all means.
^
thats the point.
be the last one standing, not the first wind sock moralist kneeling.

fact is zap,
you either got your education subsidized...(lol STFU.)
or,
had the scam loans and paid it ( commendable but financially moronic)
or,
paid cash out of your personal treasury ( like i did, wheres the beef?)
or, ya have no education at all, meaning , whats your opinion matter on usurious student loan sharkery?


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Offlinezappaisgod
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Re: i owe 350,000 dollars on default student loans [Re: DieCommie]
    #19218486 - 12/02/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

DieCommie said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Anybody who doesn't repay the money they borrow is a scumbag.




I'd rather be a scumbag than be a lone martyr for the cause of student loan repayment.  You can keep your high minded ideals, I'm going to live as pragmatically as I can.  That means taking as much as I can and giving back as little as I can.



I prefer bentnose debt collection protocols.  Is that high minded?


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Re: i owe 350,000 dollars on default student loans [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19218511 - 12/02/13 06:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Of course.  You appeal to your ideals rather than pragmatism and care more about what is "right" than what actually is.  All a bentnose would net the govt. is the loss of a citizen and no repayment of the debt.  That is not pragmatic, that is appealing to ideals of "justice" and what is "right".


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Re: i owe 350,000 dollars on default student loans [Re: DieCommie]
    #19218544 - 12/02/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Net the govt?  I don't give a shit about the govt.  And you don't quite understand bentnose.  They rarely kill but when they do it sets a wonderful example.


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Re: i owe 350,000 dollars on default student loans [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #19218569 - 12/02/13 06:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Net the govt?  I don't give a shit about the govt.  And you don't quite understand bentnose.  They rarely kill but when they do it sets a wonderful example.




I understand.  I have no money, cant pay my debt and have the threat of violence hanging over me.  You think beating me up is good because that is "justice" according to your high minded ideals.  Its pragmatically not going to work though, because when injured I have less money, less ability to make money and will start to think about escaping to latin america rather than paying off my bill.  If you actually want the debt payed the last thing you need to be doing is physically injuring me.  The only purpose that serves is the purpose of "justice", which costs you even more money in the end.

You can't squeeze any water out of a dry sponge, no matter how hard you try.


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Re: i owe 350,000 dollars on default student loans [Re: DieCommie]
    #19218575 - 12/02/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

zap just wants some reassurance the clown car he bet the farm on shows good at the dog track.
he might as well be cursing at the dog jockeys with a day old beard , and a cigar, hand full of tickets.


zap. im older too.
i wanted to believe.
im way past it.
im kinda feeling bad for ya.
but
how bout this zap,
im betting on new age ayn rand  anarchy,
or, money gone wild, the great treasure grab.
a true black friday /economy.
naturally , there will be some casualties,
and some humorless prunes will scowl alot.
but, we mean well.

most of the ones that go down,
will be greedy inefficient bastards anyway.
who needs a bunch of financial parasites,
mooching off students around colleges?


Edited by anne halonium (12/02/13 06:25 PM)


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InvisibleDieCommie

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Re: i owe 350,000 dollars on default student loans [Re: anne halonium]
    #19218593 - 12/02/13 06:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think I understand his point of view...

If he worked hard and saved he doesnt get a bail out.  I borrowed for school and can't pay it back, I get a bail out.  It sucks when you do the "right thing" and then get shafted by having to bail out those who didn't do the "right thing".  It sucks, but that is the way our society works.  You harm only yourself by trying to do the "right thing".


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Re: i owe 350,000 dollars on default student loans [Re: DieCommie]
    #19218611 - 12/02/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

exactly^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ts an IQ test, and it literally pays.
can i get an amen?

karma is absolutely always personal.
its never ever ever corporate.
thats the fucking beauty.


dont buy into the hype otheriwise.
most of that is student loaner propaganda.

the biggest is " pay up or well ruin your credit"
if peeps blow off your usurious loans, you have plenty of cash.
who needs credit when ya have cash.
everyone will deal with  you if have cash.
ive seen peeps buy some shocking things with high cash flow,
and crazy crazy credit.




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Re: i owe 350,000 dollars on default student loans [Re: anne halonium]
    #19222818 - 12/03/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Solution to your debt problem is in this post my friend!



Move to Northern California, Colorado, or Washington. Rent a large space with the perfect lot for growing marijuana..
If your not sure how to grow bud, get a book on it.. It's fucking simple..Purchase HIGH QUALITY!! Seeds and or clones! I recommend DNA Genetics or Greenhouse seeds. Plant your crop.
Take as many clones as you possibly can..
plant a field.. Grow massive plants. Harvest, process, and sell...

That is your only option with 350K of debt at this point!! and fuck it, it's legal!

GET THE FUCK OUT OF HOLLYWOOD!!

you could easily produce hundreds of lbs with the proper amount of space/genetics/and care...

exporting to other states would increase the value of the product..


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Re: i owe 350,000 dollars on default student loans [Re: Gorlax]
    #19222829 - 12/03/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Gorlax said:
Solution to your debt problem is in this post my friend!



Move to Northern California, Colorado, or Washington. Rent a large space with the perfect lot for growing marijuana..
If your not sure how to grow bud, get a book on it.. It's fucking simple..Purchase HIGH QUALITY!! Seeds and or clones! I recommend DNA Genetics or Greenhouse seeds. Plant your crop.
Take as many clones as you possibly can..
plant a field.. Grow massive plants. Harvest, process, and sell...

That is your only option with 350K of debt at this point!! and fuck it, it's legal!

GET THE FUCK OUT OF HOLLYWOOD!!

you could easily produce hundreds of lbs with the proper amount of space/genetics/and care...

exporting to other states would increase the value of the product..





:noargument:


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Re: i owe 350,000 dollars on default student loans [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19225664 - 12/04/13 08:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Quote:

anne halonium said:
your part of a circle of dogs eating each others tails,
all the while snarling over whose tail is tastier, or who hurts more.



get yours, step outside the ring.
anything else is insane.





Unlike you I was not born inside the ring.  If you borrow money and don't pay it back you are by definition a scumbag.




Is that a dictionary definition?

I would think scumbag literally refers to the bag on a vacuum cleaner, the strainer in a dishwasher trap (applying definition loosely). But what you're saying is that if someone takes money and then finds themselves unable to pay it back then they are a greasetrap, or spuge strainer, regardless of their occupation. Is that what you're saying?


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Re: i owe 350,000 dollars on default student loans [Re: eve69]
    #19227891 - 12/04/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Actually I always thought it referred to a used rubber.

I have very little patience for people who get something and don't meet their contracted obligations.  Contracts are the foundation of commerce and civilization.


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Re: i owe 350,000 dollars on default student loans [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19227927 - 12/04/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Contracts are the foundation of commerce and civilization.
:lolsy:

how bout this zap PM me,
well talk about some diamond mine contracts in the congo.
or maybe a lumber contract in the phillipine jungles,
or an arms contract on the kenyan border,
or maybe a fuel contract in a peruvian jungle.

fact is zap, contracts have nothing to do with civilization.
dont make your 401K, into a cornerstone of basic TRADE.



contracts, made with oligarch filth,
who made it all looting, with contracts,
amounts to odious debt.

historical obligation, is to imprison them.
their contracts worthless.

guess the system imploded on ya.
oops , you should bet better in the next life.

contracts are as bankable as the funny money.


whats the scoop zap?
your detroit city pension invested in student loans or something?


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Re: i owe 350,000 dollars on default student loans [Re: anne halonium]
    #19228070 - 12/04/13 06:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sometimes zappa is pretty negative, but I am with him here.

anne holonium is trollin' and contributing nothing of value to this conversation.


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Re: i owe 350,000 dollars on default student loans [Re: PDU]
    #19228168 - 12/04/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

nor, am i contributing to odious debt.
thats the point.


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