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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Smushroom]
    #18744350 - 08/22/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

While these guys may have supplied the seller on SR I highly doubt they sold retail.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Smushroom]
    #18744692 - 08/22/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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As an educated guess I would say that much is produced every 4-6 days worldwide and that may actually be a low estimate.



Are you serious? That's insane


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Sheekle]
    #18744989 - 08/22/13 11:37 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

2000 lbs every six? maybe like every few weeks.

I don't use extacy so I'm not going to bother looking it up


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Konyap]
    #18745343 - 08/23/13 01:37 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

So the comming time we will see and hear more about xtc overdoses in Belgium...


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: siriusmushroom]
    #18745427 - 08/23/13 02:18 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)
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Global ecstacy seizures in 2010 were ~4000kg but they were as high as 16000kg in 2007. I imagine with the rise in EDM the past few years they are up around 10000kg / year again.

If you assume a 10% seizure rate that is 100,000kg produced per year or approx. 2,000kg per week.

I would guess the seizure rate is more like 5% but I was being on the generous side. I'll attach a pdf from the UN drug website with the numbers.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #18745721 - 08/23/13 05:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I wonder if these folks were the vendor on SR located in Belgium. Been on there for two years and have hands down the biggest order sizes/pressy options to choose.from. Also second best stealth from any vendor Ive ever seen. Either way I expect a price hike in the near future. That's a fucking unbelievable amount of mdma.





There's been busts like this before, price range has always been €10-€30


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Beanhead]
    #18745749 - 08/23/13 05:46 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

If this is the correct chain we're all thinking about, it could be assumed they supplied much more than one vendor on SR, and they've been around much longer than SR's existence. More likely they supplied the vendor's suppliers. I would even go so far as to say this is directly related to the recent safrole bust in Thailand:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18647466/page/5


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: D.M.T]
    #18745857 - 08/23/13 06:50 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I bet this much is taken from small time busts once a year or a half.  What a waist of tree matter.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: dark3st]
    #18745977 - 08/23/13 07:48 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

i was a little disappointing with the g of moon rock i have now, but now its seeming mighty fine. just have to ration it properly.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: justdontgetit]
    #18746317 - 08/23/13 09:28 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

BRUSSELS (AP) - A three-nation investigation led to one of the biggest seizures of synthetic drugs in Europe, a haul of products to create Ecstasy pills with a street value of 1.3 billion euros ($1.75 billion), the Belgian prosecutor's office said Friday.

After 30 raids in Belgium, the Netherlands and Poland, 11 people were under arrest charged with possession, production and trading in drugs as part of a criminal gang, it said.

"It is the biggest such bust ever in Belgium and one of the largest in Europe," Wenke Roggen, spokeswoman for the federal prosecutor's office, said. "It is quite incredible."

Products seized included about 1,000 kilograms of MDMA and 18.5 tons of Ecstasy precursor safrole, Roggen said. The criminal organization was made up of people with Belgian, Polish and Turkish nationality, Roggen said.

Most of the products were discovered in a suburban Brussels garage and in southern farmland around the city of Chimay, where men in biohazard suits were still working on the cleanup operation on Friday. Products were also found at an undisclosed location in the Netherlands.

"It is a shock that our region was at the center of such an important production of illegal products," Chimay mayor Francoise Fassieux said.

Authorities had to evacuate some people around the area of the plant where the drugs were produced, Fassieux said.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: fapjack]
    #18746320 - 08/23/13 09:29 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

This might seriously effect the market for a while, this was a huge operation.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: fapjack]
    #18746362 - 08/23/13 09:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I reckon a dutch superlab or two could produce that much shard in a few weeks time. Fear not.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #18746368 - 08/23/13 09:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

wasnt there a large bust a couple months ago?


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Smushroom]
    #18747608 - 08/23/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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1kg = 1000g
1g = 1000mg

1000kg = 1 billion mg

1 billion mg / 60 million pills = 16.67 mg per pill





Yes 1kg = 1 million mg but they seized 1000kg and that is what I quoted in my numbers and 1000kg = 1 billion mg




Smushroom's math is correct.  It's so easy when the measures are metric.

1 X 10^3 x 1 X 10^3 x 1 X 10^3 = 1 X 10^9, or 1 billion.

Motherfucker that's a ton of ANYTHING, let alone Ecstasy.

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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Nature Boy]
    #18747779 - 08/23/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

1000Kg*2.2lbs/kg*16oz/lb*28g/oz*10 doses/g=9,856,000.

60,000,000 doses/9856000 doses *100=609% percent discrepancy. I think I've cracked the dosage /weight exaggeration. Divide by roughly 6 and you arrive somewhere in the ballpark.

Edit:lol face palming myself for the excess conversions...old habits. Still 98 percent on point oh well.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: utk]
    #18747930 - 08/23/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: alienshaman]
    #18747987 - 08/23/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

1000kg of mdma seems like nothing when they seize 18.5 tons of safrole :P

I still doubt this will effect the price/supply much at all. I assume there is enough product on hand to last a few weeks and by then the other major producers will just increase their production for fill the void. When you are looking a multi-billion dollar a year industry there are plenty that are willing to take their place


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Smushroom]
    #18748814 - 08/23/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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1000kg of mdma seems like nothing when they seize 18.5 tons of safrole :P

I still doubt this will effect the price/supply much at all. I assume there is enough product on hand to last a few weeks and by then the other major producers will just increase their production for fill the void. When you are looking a multi-billion dollar a year industry there are plenty that are willing to take their place




haha this was all the discussion today here, exactly this :lol:

Laundering all the money seems such a hard task.


Edited by Beanhead (08/23/13 08:15 PM)


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Beanhead]
    #18748850 - 08/23/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Not really just go thru WaMu or citibank...


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Beanhead]
    #18749211 - 08/23/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Solution: give shit away for free.

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