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InvisibleSimplepowa
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Man caught selling deadly drug in New York
    #18749148 - 08/23/13 09:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

A man has been arrested by the Erie County Sheriff's Office after undercover detectives bought pure fentanyl off him. Authorities say one dose would be fatal.

Angel Marcial, 20, was arrested around 1:45 p.m. Friday on Niagara Street. Authorities say he tried to run from police when he saw officers approaching.

Marcial is originally from Rochester, but has an Arthur Street address in the Queen City. Deputies seized 20g of suspected heroin, $4,600 in cash, a loaded semi-automatic handgun, and a scanner set to Buffalo Police Department presets from his home.

Erie County Sheriff Tim Howard said, "If you bought drugs from this man, do not use them. If you use the drugs from this individual, your next dose will very, very likely be your last."

Marcial is being held in the Erie County Holding Center on charges of two counts of criminal sale of a narcotic drug, two counts of criminal possession of a narcotic drug with intent to sell, and two counts of obstructing governmental administration and resisting arrest.

Deputies say additional charges are anticipated.

Rachel Kingston
WIVB (Channel 4 CBS, Buffalo NY)
August 23, 2013
http://www.wivb.com/news/crime/man-caught-selling-deadly-drug-in-city


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Re: Man caught selling deadly drug in New York [Re: Simplepowa]
    #18752804 - 08/24/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Its not necesarily a fatal dose if the user knows exactly how much it is. Some people have insane tolerances.


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Re: Man caught selling deadly drug in New York [Re: crimsonking91]
    #18754569 - 08/25/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

why not just sell it as fentanyl? ive heard of people in my area buying this blue dope that apparently contained fentanyl, which kind of pissed me off. its not like an opiate dependent person is going to turn down such a strong opiod, but at least be honest so people aren't shooting up fentanyl which is much more potent by weight than heroin is.


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Re: Man caught selling deadly drug in New York [Re: SoundScape]
    #18754748 - 08/25/13 10:46 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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SoundScape said:
why not just sell it as fentanyl? ive heard of people in my area buying this blue dope that apparently contained fentanyl, which kind of pissed me off. its not like an opiate dependent person is going to turn down such a strong opiod, but at least be honest so people aren't shooting up fentanyl which is much more potent by weight than heroin is.







Yeah, only like thousands of times more potent by weight.


I believe fentanyl (analogs) on the street are not as rare as some might think. It's my understanding that these are typically diluted to the point where the potency is on par with average street dope.


It's when you get someone who doesn't understand the care necessary, and doesn't know what they're doing,, and uses the wrong cutting agent, or the wrong process, that you get a batch that wasn't evenly mixed / distributed and junkies start dropping like flies in a given area. I've even heard rumors some horrible scumbag dealers might do such a thing on purpose-- knowingly give away a few xtra strong hits, so that when people start to OD, every junkie with a sky-high tolerance in the area wants to find that shit that's killing everyone.


For all I know that might be an urban legend of sorts-- but I've heard it a few times.


On the other hand, I do have solid reasons to suspect fent analogs on the streets. I've seen insanely potent pure white dope in my area on various occasions. I've also heard some of this specifically referred to as "China" which derives from "China White" which is typically thought to mean  "synthetic" heroin.


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Re: Man caught selling deadly drug in New York [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #18758441 - 08/26/13 04:02 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The article doesn't say if the guy was selling it as dope, he could have warned the cop it was pure fent so who knows?


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Re: Man caught selling deadly drug in New York [Re: crimsonking91]
    #18759514 - 08/26/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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crimsonking91 said:
The article doesn't say if the guy was selling it as dope, he could have warned the cop it was pure fent so who knows?






I'm not sure I get what your point is. Pure fentanyl is never sold as heroin. A bag of pure fent even 1/10 the size of a bag of heroin would be enough to kill several people. So unless he was trying to straight-up murder people, that's unlikely.


It might just be sloppy reporting (as is often the case) and they carelessly threw out the word "pure" as though that's synonymous with "really fucking strong." Or it could be the cop was posing as a dealer, which is just as likely, if not more so. A higher level dealer selling pure product to a lower level one is far less unusual.


One way or another, though, I'm pretty sure it was intended to eventually be sold on the street. :shrug:


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