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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #18748071 - 08/23/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, never mind my defense just attack my earlier information.


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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #18748075 - 08/23/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Another who refuses to answer my simple question.

Do we or do we not medicate our prisoners?


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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Rose]
    #18748077 - 08/23/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

No, we do not.


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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #18748082 - 08/23/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Link?


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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Rose] * 2
    #18748098 - 08/23/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Here: :fuckyoudance:


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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 1
    #18748113 - 08/23/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You were sent to a robot sanitarium, therefore, you are a robot.


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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: volcomstoner]
    #18748989 - 08/23/13 08:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

volcomstoner said:
Quote:

OldHam said:
How could he when he's naked in a cell?
I think he was on suicide watch all the same, right?



I guess I don't know that much about it, but I know I sure as fuck would have done it.





Easy to say online.
Oddly enough, when your backs against the wall, offing yourself is much less appealing than youd think.
The will to survive, even in dire conditions, is strong. I know a little bit about this.


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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
    #18749465 - 08/23/13 10:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

40-something percent of trans folk attempt suicide. Closer to 50. I could round up.

That is compared to the 1.something percent of the general population. Which includes trans-people... So...

Do we not medicate clinically depressed prisoners?


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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Rose]
    #18749470 - 08/23/13 10:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

If he doesn't get out for 35 years I don't see why we shouldn't just kill him:shrug:


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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Konyap]
    #18749480 - 08/23/13 10:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Different point. But well made.


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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Konyap]
    #18749488 - 08/23/13 10:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

aiyobro said:
If he doesn't get out for 35 years I don't see why we shouldn't just kill him:shrug:



Or let him kill himself? :shrug:


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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: unknown1123]
    #18749490 - 08/23/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

:shrug:


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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Konyap]
    #18749499 - 08/23/13 10:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Is that how our prisons work?


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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Rose]
    #18749516 - 08/23/13 11:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Cervantes said:
40-something percent of trans folk attempt suicide. Closer to 50. I could round up.

That is compared to the 1.something percent of the general population. Which includes trans-people... So...

Do we not medicate clinically depressed prisoners?





I think the burden of proof is on you.
When I was locked up they didn't do shit for me.
Broken leg and my cast/leg was rotting...

A sex change / hormone therapy is not required.
Your insistence that it should be show, to me, how far outside the loop you are.

Then again, I don't have the appeal of a Transexualhero.
"LOL, I'm gay so I need special stuff."


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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
    #18749522 - 08/23/13 11:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You calling trans gay?


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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Rose]
    #18749525 - 08/23/13 11:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You avoiding the point?


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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
    #18749533 - 08/23/13 11:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Rose]
    #18749536 - 08/23/13 11:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Also, welcome n00b. You make good posts.


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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Rose]
    #18749590 - 08/23/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yep.

Still no link discussing the prisons obligation for sex change surgery or hormone therapy.

Moving on...
What if he gets the sex change op, then decides he wants to go back?:confused:

'I was born a boy, became a girl, and now I want to be a boy again': Britain's youngest sex swap patient to reverse her sex change treatment

An ex-transwoman's story about regretting sex change

When sex-change is a mistake: Some transsexuals suffer bitter regrets.

http://www.sodahead.com/living/an-ex-transwomans-story-about-regretting-sex-change/question-3689791/

Charles had a sex change - then hated being Samantha so became a man again.

Paedophile wants sex change reversed


Heaven forbid if someone in prison gets depressed or down in the dumps. :frown:
We should try to make it a positive, glowing experience for them...


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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
    #18749605 - 08/23/13 11:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

he wants to go to a federal so he can get meds

he's in a military prison

if he goes fed people are worried he's going to get his dick tied inside out then we won't have anywhere to put him because he'll be a completely different person.


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