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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: SARAtonin] 1
#18747591 - 08/23/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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SARAtonin said: What is an army person doing getting a sex change. Doesn't that cost money? I thought we sent all the little poor kids with no future to the army to get shot.
ARMY STRONG!

It is surprisingly common for trans men to hide their gender issues by being jocks or army men.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Rose] 1
#18747600 - 08/23/13 02:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Manning actually said she joined the military in an attempt to put her gender dysphoria out of sight and out of mind. All too often we trick ourselves into thinking we can run away from it, but that seems pretty typically to make it even more painful.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: elax420] 1
#18747675 - 08/23/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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OldHam said: Poor little thing. I do hope he hasn't been inconvenienced in any way.
sup man, have you met Zappa yet?

Really?
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BlindSophist said: Manning actually said she joined the military in an attempt to put her gender dysphoria out of sight and out of mind. All too often we trick ourselves into thinking we can run away from it, but that seems pretty typically to make it even more painful.
Either way wanting to be something other than what you are is fucked. To put it bluntly.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: volcomstoner] 2
#18747695 - 08/23/13 03:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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OldHam said: How could he when he's naked in a cell? I think he was on suicide watch all the same, right?
I guess I don't know that much about it, but I know I sure as fuck would have done it.
Fortunately for you you will be able to avoid a 35 year sentence because the screeners will be far more vigilant against people who think they should rule the world without being elected or triumphing in battle. So sad.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] 2
#18747703 - 08/23/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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BlindSophist said: Manning actually said she joined the military in an attempt to put her gender dysphoria out of sight and out of mind. All too often we trick ourselves into thinking we can run away from it, but that seems pretty typically to make it even more painful.
Either way wanting to be something other than what you are is fucked. To put it bluntly.
It really is, though I'm not sure we mean that in the same way.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] 1
#18747719 - 08/23/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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BlindSophist said: Manning actually said she joined the military in an attempt to put her gender dysphoria out of sight and out of mind. All too often we trick ourselves into thinking we can run away from it, but that seems pretty typically to make it even more painful.
Either way wanting to be something other than what you are is fucked. To put it bluntly.
Then damn near every single human is fucked.
Wanting to be manager, or CEO, or a parent, or not a junkie, or a house owner, or a better person or a rock star, or a ball player... etc. everybody wants to be something they haven't yet been.
Being born with a mental gender that disagrees with a physical sexual characteristics happens in the womb. It is rare, but it is not fucked. It is simply life. Just like being born left handed or gay or Republican...
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claraclairvoyant said: what's wrong with wanting to be a woman?
I sort of agree with OP, I don't know why he had to announce it to the media, especially at such an awkward time.
But why do you say he is "fucked in the head" OP? The dude wants to be a chick, so what?
Sorry, I guess I haven't reached the stage of enlightenment when you look down at your dick and say damn I want to be a woman and call it normal...
I don't think anybody claimed it's "enlightened" to be transgender, nor is it normal. Honestly it's a curse, more like a neurological disorder; most of its sufferers are mentally scarred by the ordeal (as Manning clearly was, torture by the military notwithstanding), and the difficulty and cost of obtaining treatment is a cruelty.
God I wish just one time I could log on and read the replies to my thread and not lose IQ points! All I ask is ONE FUCKING TIME.
Look at the mods in this thread
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BlindSophist said: Manning actually said she joined the military in an attempt to put her gender dysphoria out of sight and out of mind. All too often we trick ourselves into thinking we can run away from it, but that seems pretty typically to make it even more painful.
Either way wanting to be something other than what you are is fucked. To put it bluntly.
It really is, though I'm not sure we mean that in the same way.
I dont mean it in a negative way. Its just a strange disconnect between what you really are and what you think you are.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] 1
#18747892 - 08/23/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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BlindSophist said: Manning actually said she joined the military in an attempt to put her gender dysphoria out of sight and out of mind. All too often we trick ourselves into thinking we can run away from it, but that seems pretty typically to make it even more painful.
Either way wanting to be something other than what you are is fucked. To put it bluntly.
It really is, though I'm not sure we mean that in the same way.
I dont mean it in a negative way. Its just a strange disconnect between what you really are and what you think you are.
Which would be my definition of fucked in the head
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: unknown1123] 1
#18747922 - 08/23/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Who doesn't aspire to do something else?
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Rose] 2
#18747935 - 08/23/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Occupation and social standing is slightly different then gender orientation.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] 1
#18747945 - 08/23/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's pretty offensive that taxpayers will pay 300,000 if this lady goes to a federal pen
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Konyap] 1
#18747980 - 08/23/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do we medicate prisoners?
I only ask, because everybody saying Manning expects the Govt. to pay for surgery is guilty of conjecture. That has not been said by Manning's legal team.
Manning's lawyer is asking for a $20 per month prescription.
So again, do we or do we not medicate our prisoners?
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Rose] 2
#18747990 - 08/23/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Whatever dude it's still a problem and it was brought up because of this case.
Some people don't want cancer. Some people want to blame lifes probelms on not mutilating their genitals. Crazy.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Konyap] 1
#18747994 - 08/23/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Genitals have not been brought into this case. Not legally. Only by armchair lawyers like yourself.
Manning's team is asking for a medical prescription.
Do we or do we not medicate our prisoners?
You mentioned cancer. Do we treat prisoners with cancer?
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: unknown1123] 2
#18748034 - 08/23/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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unknown1123 said: God I wish just one time I could log on and read the replies to my thread and not lose IQ points! All I ask is ONE FUCKING TIME.
Look at the mods in this thread 
Maybe if you stopped logging on, the problem would be solved? Just a thought.
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Do you live in the New York, Tri-state area and someone in your family dresses like a OVER-SEXY, SCANDALOUS, HOT MESS?!? If you need to give THIS family member a make-UNDER...send us a PRIVATE MESSAGE with all of your contact information.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Konyap] 1
#18748055 - 08/23/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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So you can't answer a simple question.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Rose] 1
#18748056 - 08/23/13 04:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cervantes said: Genitals have not been brought into this case. Not legally. Only by armchair lawyers like yourself.
Manning's team is asking for a medical prescription.
Do we or do we not medicate our prisoners?
You mentioned cancer. Do we treat prisoners with cancer?
What kind of medication? If its hormone treatments they're completely unnecessary. I guess he'll just have to learn how to deal with the fact that he is in fact a man and not a woman.
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