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 If you believe in animal rights... 
#1874741 - 09/02/03 03:56 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you believe in animal rights, should they be extended to single celled animals such as protozoa? If not, why not? If so, what rights should be recognized?
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silversoul7
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Re: If you believe in animal rights... [Re: Autonomous]
#1874774 - 09/02/03 04:05 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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technically, single-celled organisms are neither animals nor plants.
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Re: If you believe in animal rights... [Re: Autonomous]
#1874789 - 09/02/03 04:10 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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What about mineral rights?
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Re: If you believe in animal rights... [Re: Autonomous]
#1874792 - 09/02/03 04:11 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Do you know how many defenceless single-celled organisms you might have killed on your keyboard writing that post? Murderer.
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luvdemshrooms
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Re: If you believe in animal rights... [Re: Autonomous]
#1874793 - 09/02/03 04:11 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Animals have no rights.
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Re: If you believe in animal rights... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1874813 - 09/02/03 04:15 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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nor nipples!
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silversoul7
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Re: If you believe in animal rights... [Re: afoaf]
#1874844 - 09/02/03 04:25 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
afoaf said:
nor nipples!
I beg to differ.
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luvdemshrooms
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Re: If you believe in animal rights... [Re: silversoul7]
#1874849 - 09/02/03 04:26 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mmmmmm.... them's purdy!
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Re: If you believe in animal rights... [Re: silversoul7]
#1874855 - 09/02/03 04:28 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nice rack.
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Re: If you believe in animal rights... [Re: Autonomous]
#1874969 - 09/02/03 05:00 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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i think the amount of animal rights we observe should be determined by the amount of consciousness (or whatever you want to call it) they appear seem to exhibit.
to say that "animals have no rights" is to say (aside from 'people have no rights' -people are animals-) that things like torturing kittens and whatnot is ok.
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Re: If you believe in animal rights... [Re: ]
#1875105 - 09/02/03 05:53 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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here is a decent resource for the subject of animal rights.
I am about 90% vegan - anyone else? By living a life nearly-free of animal suffering, I am seeking inner harmony and harmony with all sentient creatures. I seek peace, and I have found through my experiences, that contributing to the suffering of other sentient creatures is a major roadblock for such an objective. I am not perfect, but I am sincerely trying to be a better human being. Perhaps there are others here on the same path as me?
I have seen animals in dire screaming pain, and from that, I know that it is not good.
peace friends.
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luvdemshrooms
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Re: If you believe in animal rights... [Re: ]
#1875137 - 09/02/03 06:06 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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No it's not saying it's OK to mistreat animals. We have a responsibility to try and see that doesn't happen. That is not the same as saying animals have rights.
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: If you believe in animal rights... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1875292 - 09/02/03 07:00 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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unless your point is that animals have a right not
to be mistreated.
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luvdemshrooms
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Re: If you believe in animal rights... [Re: afoaf]
#1875486 - 09/02/03 07:58 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nope. Animals have no rights.
Animals are for eating and for our use, not mistreating.
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: If you believe in animal rights... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1875498 - 09/02/03 08:01 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I believe that their purpose is considerably broader than that.
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luvdemshrooms
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Re: If you believe in animal rights... [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1875510 - 09/02/03 08:04 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sorry but I think I covered all the bases.
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: If you believe in animal rights... [Re: Xochitl]
#1875570 - 09/02/03 08:20 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Xochitl said:
here is a decent resource for the subject of animal rights.
I am about 90% vegan - anyone else? By living a life nearly-free of animal suffering, I am seeking inner harmony and harmony with all sentient creatures. I seek peace, and I have found through my experiences, that contributing to the suffering of other sentient creatures is a major roadblock for such an objective. I am not perfect, but I am sincerely trying to be a better human being. Perhaps there are others here on the same path as me?
I have seen animals in dire screaming pain, and from that, I know that it is not good.
peace friends.
Much respect.
I think it's a good idea for vegans and vegetarians to use % points when describing their level of commitment. Because you're not all the sudden not vegan just because you have leather on your shoes.
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Re: If you believe in animal rights... [Re: Learyfan]
#1875575 - 09/02/03 08:22 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Did you link to that pic on the PETA site? It attempted to put a cookie on my puter.
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: If you believe in animal rights... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1875611 - 09/02/03 08:30 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah. It did that??
I'm no computer wiz. How bad is it that websites put cookies on people's harddrives?
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Re: If you believe in animal rights... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1875635 - 09/02/03 08:35 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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"for eating and for our use" doesn't quite seem
to be all the bases.
what about their natural roles?
some are virtual linchpins in nature's axle.
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