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I don't think my friends are gonna show up..
    #18746246 - 08/23/13 09:08 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Well, I think at this point it is safe to say that I all around failed to produce.. What's left of the first batch has been in the fruiting chamber for a little over two weeks now and I don't see any signs of life.. The second batch is probably going to follow, though they have only been in the chamber for a little over a week so one of them might show up I guess..

Here is the problem as I see it; Some of you know my original setup was in a closet and after discussing this setup with some members, they told me to take it out of there, which I did but really really didn't want to.. You see, my wife has two air conditioners on 24/7 and the house stays quite chilled, so my closet was more easily temperature controlled.. But you guys said that there would be no air flow and it would have to come out.. And now, two chambers sit in my room at around 55 degrees and no amount of effort can change that.. When they were in the closet, I kept them at a comfortable 75 degrees and it was VERY humid in there, now there isn't any humidity because there is no heat and the air is so cold..

I'm very sad at this point, not because of losing product or something like that, but because I failed a lifeform that depended on me.. I have done everything I can but I lost my job and cannot buy anything to change this situation.. But I learned a lot and will continue to try sometime in the future but for now, I will ponder my failure.. Thank you guys for all your help along the way..


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Re: I don't think my friends are gonna show up.. [Re: th3tr335]
    #18746271 - 08/23/13 09:16 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

i would of just  left them in the closet. cold temps will take forever for anything to come up.


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Re: I don't think my friends are gonna show up.. [Re: blackdust]
    #18746280 - 08/23/13 09:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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i would of just  left them in the closet. cold temps will take forever for anything to come up.



I would of but some members I trust on here told me to take it out as there was no air flow..


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Re: I don't think my friends are gonna show up.. [Re: th3tr335]
    #18746297 - 08/23/13 09:23 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

its not recommended to do it in a closet but in your case I would have. Really have to use your best judgment. Its also not recommended to do work without a glove  box or hepa filter thing but I did with a contam rate of under 5% when making rye jars.


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Re: I don't think my friends are gonna show up.. [Re: blackdust]
    #18746303 - 08/23/13 09:25 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

When using an SGFc you want little airflow around the tub itself.

You should put it back in the closet if the air is blasting in the room.

This is a common misconception.


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Re: I don't think my friends are gonna show up.. [Re: th3tr335]
    #18746309 - 08/23/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

And they were right...  how was anyone supposed to know your wife was a female version of Mr freeze?

Honestly what person in their right mind turns the air down to 55°?  Even if that is true, it seems that with your 2 conditioners that you don't have central air...  was there not a 3rd room in your house that the sgfc could be moved to?  (If the answer to that was no, maybe you should tell your wife you could afford a bigger place if she wasn't trying to turn your living space into a walk in fridge)

Either way I'm sorry for your bad luck, but it seems like your trying to blame others when your wife and her teperature preferances seem to be the issue...  Hacker, myself, and the others tried to help you in your last thread, but using common sense on top of that advice is up to you.


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Re: I don't think my friends are gonna show up.. [Re: th3tr335]
    #18746311 - 08/23/13 09:27 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

:sad:
It's okay man, shit happens and you learn.
Simple as that.
IT sucks but hell, you have everything set up, so you just have to try again!
Maybe try to seal off one room somewhere off in the house and keep the room at room temp?
Also, I tried to mimic outdoor conditions to the best of my ability (shit , I mean these bad boys usually grow on poop!) and keep it as simple and natural as possible. So I have my set up in a room with a small window. They're getting their daylight but they're also getting their darkness.
I seem to be going against every tek ever, but for a beginner I think I've done well.
Just keep at it man, every failure is a learning experience!
I'm sure your next grow will be crazy good!


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Re: I don't think my friends are gonna show up.. [Re: BloodKil]
    #18746349 - 08/23/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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And they were right...  how was anyone supposed to know your wife was a female version of Mr freeze?

Honestly what person in their right mind turns the air down to 55°?  Even if that is true, it seems that with your 2 conditioners that you don't have central air...  was there not a 3rd room in your house that the sgfc could be moved to?  (If the answer to that was no, maybe you should tell your wife you could afford a bigger place if she wasn't trying to turn your living space into a walk in fridge)

Either way I'm sorry for your bad luck, but it seems like your trying to blame others when your wife and her teperature preferances seem to be the issue...  Hacker, myself, and the others tried to help you in your last thread, but using common sense on top of that advice is up to you.




Lmao, your kidding right.... It doesn't matter either way, clothes have been reintroduced to the closet and I don't have the materials to sterilize it again..  I didn't blame anyone but myself, hence why I said I failed the lifeform thing.. And look man, I didn't come back on here to fight again but your post is making it really hard so let's just say I failed, thank you guys for your help and wish me luck in my future endeavors...


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Re: I don't think my friends are gonna show up.. [Re: th3tr335]
    #18746360 - 08/23/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Why do you need to "sterilize" your closet?

Fruiting is not sterile, it is done in open air.

Just push the close aside and get it back in there, that sounded perfect for it.

You don't even need to wash your fruiting chamber between rounds. Fully colonized is contam resistant.


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Re: I don't think my friends are gonna show up.. [Re: th3tr335]
    #18746367 - 08/23/13 09:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

BloodKil said:
And they were right...  how was anyone supposed to know your wife was a female version of Mr freeze?

Honestly what person in their right mind turns the air down to 55°?  Even if that is true, it seems that with your 2 conditioners that you don't have central air...  was there not a 3rd room in your house that the sgfc could be moved to?  (If the answer to that was no, maybe you should tell your wife you could afford a bigger place if she wasn't trying to turn your living space into a walk in fridge)

Either way I'm sorry for your bad luck, but it seems like your trying to blame others when your wife and her teperature preferances seem to be the issue...  Hacker, myself, and the others tried to help you in your last thread, but using common sense on top of that advice is up to you.




Lmao, your kidding right.... It doesn't matter either way, clothes have been reintroduced to the closet and I don't have the materials to sterilize it again..  I didn't blame anyone but myself, hence why I said I failed the lifeform thing.. And look man, I didn't come back on here to fight again but your post is making it really hard so let's just say I failed, thank you guys for your help and wish me luck in my future endeavors...




if you dont have mold growing in your chamber than you are fine. Just wait it out.

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Re: I don't think my friends are gonna show up.. [Re: n4n0]
    #18746374 - 08/23/13 09:40 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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:sad:
It's okay man, shit happens and you learn.
Simple as that.
IT sucks but hell, you have everything set up, so you just have to try again!
Maybe try to seal off one room somewhere off in the house and keep the room at room temp?
Also, I tried to mimic outdoor conditions to the best of my ability (shit , I mean these bad boys usually grow on poop!) and keep it as simple and natural as possible. So I have my set up in a room with a small window. They're getting their daylight but they're also getting their darkness.
I seem to be going against every tek ever, but for a beginner I think I've done well.
Just keep at it man, every failure is a learning experience!
I'm sure your next grow will be crazy good!




Thank you, I have learned a lot and I think the hands on experience has taught me a lot.. I have 5 more spore syringes so I will try again in the future and with better knowledge..


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Re: I don't think my friends are gonna show up.. [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18746385 - 08/23/13 09:43 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Why do you need to "sterilize" your closet?

Fruiting is not sterile, it is done in open air.

Just push the close aside and get it back in there, that sounded perfect for it.

You don't even need to wash your fruiting chamber between rounds. Fully colonized is contam resistant.




Ok sweet, I'll give it a shot.. I thought clothes being in there would be a problem.. Would putting a fan and keeping the door cracked help?


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Re: I don't think my friends are gonna show up.. [Re: th3tr335]
    #18746392 - 08/23/13 09:44 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18686216

I'm doing a lot of things people are advising against but so far so good besides the metabolites I'm having.  I'm a complete novice and have used this board for so much information.  If u look through whole thread j will see what closet I'm growing in is like.

Following others is a great way to get started, but eventually you need to find your own way.  And when handed lemons make lemonade.  In other words if you have to or would like to grow in your closet then do it.  Frank gave me the same advice about a Sgfc maybe u should try that.

And how the hell do you afford to keep the house at 55 degrees.


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Re: I don't think my friends are gonna show up.. [Re: th3tr335]
    #18746406 - 08/23/13 09:46 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Why do you need to "sterilize" your closet?

Fruiting is not sterile, it is done in open air.

Just push the close aside and get it back in there, that sounded perfect for it.

You don't even need to wash your fruiting chamber between rounds. Fully colonized is contam resistant.




Ok sweet, I'll give it a shot.. I thought clothes being in there would be a problem.. Would putting a fan and keeping the door cracked help?




Door cracked, yes.

Fan inside, no.

Don't run a fan with a SGFC. Fans are for monotubs and greenhouses.

As long as the clothes aren't piled all over the SGFC, you'll be fine. I did my first 3 SGFC grows in a closet, it works great.


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Re: I don't think my friends are gonna show up.. [Re: TasteTheSound]
    #18746436 - 08/23/13 09:55 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Well specifically, my room is at 55 degrees because of the beast air conditioner is in the window and it is on ALL THE TIME.. I swear my wife is a Eskimo.. And my room was the only alternative.. I think I have learned though that you kinda have to make your own way on some things, I just think beginners get sooo excited about this that we want everything to be EXACTLY as instructed and I think in a few ways, that was the problem in my situation..


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Re: I don't think my friends are gonna show up.. [Re: th3tr335]
    #18746449 - 08/23/13 09:57 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

@FrankHorrigan, ok thank you! I'll give it a shot and let you guys know what happens! Thank you guys for the help, it is really appreciated..


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Re: I don't think my friends are gonna show up.. [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18746458 - 08/23/13 09:58 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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When using an SGFc you want little airflow around the tub itself.

You should put it back in the closet if the air is blasting in the room.

This is a common misconception.




No according to RR sgfc rely on natural air movements around them for gas exchange.  RH is't your main issue and low temps as log as around 70 will just slow i a bit and produce smalled thicker juicer fruits.  This is from experience.  I had my SGFC in a closet for its first 3 weeks of life and after being told by RR to take it out.....boom.  maybe your wife needs to suck it up.  Plus if you don't have a foot top bottom and sides of clear space the SGFC will not work correctly.  And the reason things are done a certain way and not every other schmucks.....the ones here are years of tried and true

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Re: I don't think my friends are gonna show up.. [Re: ghostinthemist]
    #18746480 - 08/23/13 10:04 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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@FrankHorrigan, ok thank you! I'll give it a shot and let you guys know what happens! Thank you guys for the help, it is really appreciated..




Sounds good!

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No according to RR sgfc rely on natural air movements around them for gas exchange.




Actually they rely on natural air currents, not ones created by a fan. 

They operate due to a slight difference in temperature between the interior and exterior of the tub.  Since the cakes create a bit of heat, cool air is being drawn up into the chamber from below, pulled through the perlite and humidified.

This current occurs in a closet, in a room, wherever, provided there is no air being forced around it.

That balance of gentle currents is why the SGFC works so well.

If the OP cannot shut off the fans in the room, the SGFC will perform better in the closet. I know this from 3 years of experience in no small amounts.

Also I notified the moderators of your graem-spamming.

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Re: I don't think my friends are gonna show up.. [Re: ghostinthemist]
    #18746482 - 08/23/13 10:04 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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No according to RR sgfc rely on natural air movements around them for gas exchange.



He was referring to only natural air currents, and not currents from fans or AC...


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Plus if you don't have a foot top bottom and sides of clear space the SGFC will not work correctly.



Not true....raising it just a few inches off whatever surface it is on is just fine...this is from experience.


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Re: I don't think my friends are gonna show up.. [Re: PussyFart]
    #18746490 - 08/23/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Plus if you don't have a foot top bottom and sides of clear space the SGFC will not work correctly.



Not true....raising it just a few inches off whatever surface it is on is just fine...this is from experience.




:lmafo:

I missed that. Thanks for catching it hacker.


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