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Greenwald and his mule
    #18742807 - 08/22/13 02:48 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Recently Greenwald's husband was detained at Heathrow.  Greenwald henceforth wailed Miranda wasn't even a journalist and said the detention was about intimidating him, Greenwald.  Turns out Miranda was in the pay of the Guardian and carrying encrypted thumb drives with secrets stolen by Snowden.  It is time to arrest Greenwald as well.

http://www.trendingcentral.com/the-smears-of-glenn-greenwald-and-the-guardian/

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Oh my goodness! Those awful Guardian subs are at it again. They totally forgot to mention that the “memory sticks” confiscated contained classified information about UK and US intelligence programmes against repressive foreign regimes, stolen by Edward Snowden! Ooopsy! Must tie a knot in your handkerchief, Alan Rusbridger, so you can remind your reporters to mention little details like that next time… before they accuse our security forces just doing their job of intimidation.

Shame on the Guardian for its smear story, its partial reporting, and its vile accusations against our border agents. Shame on Glenn Greenwald for not correcting the idea that David Miranda was denied a lawyer. Shame on Greenwald and the Guardian for not admitting Miranda was smuggling encrypted Snowden files. Shame on Miranda for lying at security about being “asked to carry anything for somebody else”. Shame on Greenwald for – if we believe David (I don’t) – not telling his husband that he was carrying top secret encrypted CIA data that Snowden stole. And a plague on all their houses for conflating whistleblowing on the NSA with revelations of intelligence actions against foreign powers.

Lastly, shame on Greenwald for attacking a fellow journalist, Edward Epstein, for questioning him – as to whether he was actively assisting Edward Snowden. The encrypted thumb drives his husband was smuggling are a pretty solid proof of that.

To end, let’s just remind ourselves of Edward Snowden fearlessly betraying his country to the South China Morning Post.





I find it ridiculous that any jackass can call himself a journalist and expect special treatment.  They are unlicensed wankers and in this case serial liars.


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Re: Greenwald and his mule [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18743037 - 08/22/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Recently Greenwald's husband was detained at Heathrow.  Greenwald henceforth wailed Miranda wasn't even a journalist and said the detention was about intimidating him, Greenwald.  Turns out Miranda was in the pay of the Guardian and carrying encrypted thumb drives with secrets stolen by Snowden.  It is time to arrest Greenwald as well.

http://www.trendingcentral.com/the-smears-of-glenn-greenwald-and-the-guardian/

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Oh my goodness! Those awful Guardian subs are at it again. They totally forgot to mention that the “memory sticks” confiscated contained classified information about UK and US intelligence programmes against repressive foreign regimes, stolen by Edward Snowden! Ooopsy! Must tie a knot in your handkerchief, Alan Rusbridger, so you can remind your reporters to mention little details like that next time… before they accuse our security forces just doing their job of intimidation.

Shame on the Guardian for its smear story, its partial reporting, and its vile accusations against our border agents. Shame on Glenn Greenwald for not correcting the idea that David Miranda was denied a lawyer. Shame on Greenwald and the Guardian for not admitting Miranda was smuggling encrypted Snowden files. Shame on Miranda for lying at security about being “asked to carry anything for somebody else”. Shame on Greenwald for – if we believe David (I don’t) – not telling his husband that he was carrying top secret encrypted CIA data that Snowden stole. And a plague on all their houses for conflating whistleblowing on the NSA with revelations of intelligence actions against foreign powers.

Lastly, shame on Greenwald for attacking a fellow journalist, Edward Epstein, for questioning him – as to whether he was actively assisting Edward Snowden. The encrypted thumb drives his husband was smuggling are a pretty solid proof of that.

To end, let’s just remind ourselves of Edward Snowden fearlessly betraying his country to the South China Morning Post.





I find it ridiculous that any jackass can call himself a journalist and expect special treatment.  They are unlicensed wankers and in this case serial liars.



It seems that nearly all "journalists", mainstream or not, are corrupt assholes who withhold information for personal benefit. Not true journalism if you ask me.
Edit: Though in my opinion all of this information should just be released, not held ransom to try and protect Snowden. Transparency in government is something that needs to happen if one wants any respect, and its people want true freedom. The US government does enough sneaking and snooping around, especially when we have all the military power we need to enforce whatever ideas we have (unjust or not) abroad. What the fuck are we afraid of? What are other countries gonna fucking do? Maybe finally embargo us and force us to work for the first time in half a century :lol:
The federal government's attempt at fascism is the most retarded one I've ever seen or heard of.


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Re: Greenwald and his mule [Re: HalfLight] * 2
    #18743282 - 08/22/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Some of the things that the government does should be transparent.  Like the content of domestic bills and who at the IRS ordered the persecution of conservative groups.  Also who ordered the stand down at Benghazi.  Routine shit should be fully out in the open.  Diplomatic cables are not one of those things nor are spying methods


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Re: Greenwald and his mule [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #18743914 - 08/22/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Some of the things that the government does should be transparent.  Like the content of domestic bills and who at the IRS ordered the persecution of conservative groups.  Also who ordered the stand down at Benghazi.  Routine shit should be fully out in the open.  Diplomatic cables are not one of those things nor are spying methods




It wasn't just conservative groups targeted, it was down the line 504 (C) non profit groups abusing their tax exempt status by focusing on political issues, marijuana advocacy, tea party, Occupy groups, and other progressive and conservative 504's were targeted across the board. I don't think Benghazi is relevant either to the discussion at hand, yea the government is inept and didn't have much sercurity and their was ineptitude, but this is not the first embassy attack, a Al Qaeda suicide bomber backed his explosives laden vehicle into David Foy on March 2, 2006 and blew his convoy to pieces,where was the grief there, none because it was a tragedy and terrorist attacks happen, their wasn't a immediate blame game. I Don't think those who harp on Benghazi give a shit about those who died in it, they are using it for political means, they don't care about the humanity of the situation only to score political points and this Mantra of Benghazi over and over has been going on for almost a year and is becoming absurd. What happened at the Embassy in Libya, was a tragedy, and government ineptitude had large part in it, but it was jihadi assholes riding on the inflamed passions of some idiot pastor and a dumbass movie. Can we just move on from this tragedy for once or do we have to shamefully drag this through the mud every election season.


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Re: Greenwald and his mule [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #18743968 - 08/22/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Can we just move on from this tragedy for once or do we have to shamefully drag this through the mud every election season.




This is America.  We will choose the latter every time.


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Re: Greenwald and his mule [Re: memes] * 1
    #18745414 - 08/23/13 02:11 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Sadly im sick and fucking tired of hearing about Benghazi, big fucking deal 4 americans dead, 4 fucking americans die every fucking second from car wrecks, lung cancer, and all sorts of shit. God almighty I have never seen such disgraceful politicking in my life...


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Re: Greenwald and his mule [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #18746471 - 08/23/13 10:01 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

He even said he was transporting shit and claimed not to know what it was but 'trusted' Glenn and blah bla bla.

so much for the harassment meme which was seeded early and often througout all liberal numkinheads.


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Re: Greenwald and his mule [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #18746685 - 08/23/13 10:49 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Sadly im sick and fucking tired of hearing about Benghazi, big fucking deal 4 americans dead, 4 fucking americans die every fucking second from car wrecks, lung cancer, and all sorts of shit. God almighty I have never seen such disgraceful politicking in my life...



How about the administration just answer the fucking questions and then it will, as you so wonderfully put it, go away.  It's always the coverup.


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Re: Greenwald and his mule [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18746712 - 08/23/13 10:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The_Red_Crayon said:
Sadly im sick and fucking tired of hearing about Benghazi, big fucking deal 4 americans dead, 4 fucking americans die every fucking second from car wrecks, lung cancer, and all sorts of shit. God almighty I have never seen such disgraceful politicking in my life...



How about the administration just answer the fucking questions and then it will, as you so wonderfully put it, go away.  It's always the coverup.



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Re: Greenwald and his mule [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #18746757 - 08/23/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Some of the things that the government does should be transparent.  Like the content of domestic bills and who at the IRS ordered the persecution of conservative groups.  Also who ordered the stand down at Benghazi.  Routine shit should be fully out in the open.  Diplomatic cables are not one of those things nor are spying methods




It wasn't just conservative groups targeted, it was down the line 504 (C) non profit groups abusing their tax exempt status by focusing on political issues, marijuana advocacy, tea party, Occupy groups, and other progressive and conservative 504's were targeted across the board. I don't think Benghazi is relevant either to the discussion at hand, yea the government is inept and didn't have much sercurity and their was ineptitude, but this is not the first embassy attack, a Al Qaeda suicide bomber backed his explosives laden vehicle into David Foy on March 2, 2006 and blew his convoy to pieces,where was the grief there, none because it was a tragedy and terrorist attacks happen, their wasn't a immediate blame game. I Don't think those who harp on Benghazi give a shit about those who died in it, they are using it for political means, they don't care about the humanity of the situation only to score political points and this Mantra of Benghazi over and over has been going on for almost a year and is becoming absurd. What happened at the Embassy in Libya, was a tragedy, and government ineptitude had large part in it, but it was jihadi assholes riding on the inflamed passions of some idiot pastor and a dumbass movie. Can we just move on from this tragedy for once or do we have to shamefully drag this through the mud every election season.





This is so laden with bald-faced lies it boggles the mind.

1.  As has been reported quite extensively it had absolutely nothing to do with either the movie or the pastor who wants to burn the Koran, which he is perfectly within his rights to do.  This was the White House lie, though, and even after they backed off in the face of overwhelming evidence you still spew it.  Have you been living under a rock.  This was no random attack, the ambassador had been requesting more security for months and theer were quite a few CIA operatives in the vicinity who were told not to respond.  This is criminal negligence and I want this necklace to hang around Hillary's neck for the rest of her life and hopefully end her hideous political career.

2.  There most certainly was a targeting of conservative groups far greater than of any others.  Further, it had nothing to do with abuse of the system, it had to do with getting tax exempt status in the first place.  They were disproportionately held out for greater scrutiny before they even had a chance to abuse the system.  Another rock.

3.  You keep describing the Muslim Brotherhood as moderate.  Compared to whom?  They are only moderate compared to the cadre of raving drooling lunatics in al Qaeda.  Or do you think they're moderate, too.


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Re: Greenwald and his mule [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #18746871 - 08/23/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

And I wonder who was stonewalling his security concerns? Cause their was an equal amount of folks on the right who cut security for the Benghazi compound so if that's where you stand lets acknowledge that.

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This is criminal negligence and I want this necklace to hang around Hillary's neck for the rest of her life and hopefully end her hideous political career.





I have a feeling this is why you and so many others really give a fuck about Benghazi, to bash Hilary in some way, good luck bro, she fucking eats scandals for lunch, whitewater to vince foster to Benghazi, they will never stick to her.

Al Qaeda did it? You don't understand the nature of Al Qaeda it isn't some command and control type system where a leader shouts a command and all his underlings carry it out. Al Qaeda is decentralized, if an attack was carried out then maybe by a loosely affiliated group, but I distinctly remember Omar Abdul Rahman Brigades, not really in the whose who of bad guys flying the Al Qaeda banner, seems to me like a ad hoc group out of the recent civil unrest in Libya.





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2.  There most certainly was a targeting of conservative groups far greater than of any others.  Further, it had nothing to do with abuse of the system, it had to do with getting tax exempt status in the first place.  They were disproportionately held out for greater scrutiny before they even had a chance to abuse the system.  Another rock.





They were scrutinizing non-profit 504 (c), now for that non-profit status they can allow only a certain level of political backing of a candidate or policy, the rest of the 504 has to do their stated mission, well in the recent election tons of political groups were created 504 (c) non-profit who were found to be exclusively supporting campaigns and funneling money into policies or candidates they support. You sir are the one under the rock because you see conspiracies and cover ups everywhere.


Aw the MB, you still going on about this, I never mentioned it in my posts, don't see how its relevant to the discussion at hand but yes, I do find the MB a lot more moderate then say, Saudia Arabia who are wahhabists, wahhabists = al Qaeda, they are seeking a global islamic caliphate that basically want to reclaim the empire of islam. Yes I find the MB a lot more moderate then most Islamic backed groups, namely they have been in politics in Egypt for quite a number of years, and sat in Parliament under Mubarak for a long time. They categorically deny violence as a political means, now im afraid the MB is going to turn into a monster that wont be under their control and say politics was for suckers and start joining real jihadi groups, like Al Qaeda and Egyptian Islamic Jihad.


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Re: Greenwald and his mule [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #18747777 - 08/23/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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And I wonder who was stonewalling his security concerns? Cause their was an equal amount of folks on the right who cut security for the Benghazi compound so if that's where you stand lets acknowledge that.




Another lie.  The administration had full control
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This is criminal negligence and I want this necklace to hang around Hillary's neck for the rest of her life and hopefully end her hideous political career.





I have a feeling this is why you and so many others really give a fuck about Benghazi, to bash Hilary in some way, good luck bro, she fucking eats scandals for lunch, whitewater to vince foster to Benghazi, they will never stick to her.




She gets away with this shit because we have a Clinton sucking press.  I want answers and why do support a serial liar and obfuscator?  For once hse was actually in charge and she fucked it up big time and then lied.
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Al Qaeda did it? You don't understand the nature of Al Qaeda it isn't some command and control type system where a leader shouts a command and all his underlings carry it out. Al Qaeda is decentralized, if an attack was carried out then maybe by a loosely affiliated group, but I distinctly remember Omar Abdul Rahman Brigades, not really in the whose who of bad guys flying the Al Qaeda banner, seems to me like a ad hoc group out of the recent civil unrest in Libya.




Did I say al Qaeda?  Nope.  I said it was a well planned and organized attack that had nothing to do with the stupid bullshit you and Hillary lied and said it did.  Are you a Clinton?  You like them.
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2.  There most certainly was a targeting of conservative groups far greater than of any others.  Further, it had nothing to do with abuse of the system, it had to do with getting tax exempt status in the first place.  They were disproportionately held out for greater scrutiny before they even had a chance to abuse the system.  Another rock.





They were scrutinizing non-profit 504 (c), now for that non-profit status they can allow only a certain level of political backing of a candidate or policy, the rest of the 504 has to do their stated mission, well in the recent election tons of political groups were created 504 (c) non-profit who were found to be exclusively supporting campaigns and funneling money into policies or candidates they support. You sir are the one under the rock because you see conspiracies and cover ups everywhere.




None of the 504 entities mentioned had been granted that status so they couldn't possibly have been abusing it, could they?  Do you even try to keep up?  During the application and interview process they received extremely onerous scrutiny.  You really shouldn't talk about shit of which you are stunningly ignorant.
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Aw the MB, you still going on about this, I never mentioned it in my posts, don't see how its relevant to the discussion at hand but yes, I do find the MB a lot more moderate then say, Saudia Arabia who are wahhabists, wahhabists = al Qaeda, they are seeking a global islamic caliphate that basically want to reclaim the empire of islam. Yes I find the MB a lot more moderate then most Islamic backed groups, namely they have been in politics in Egypt for quite a number of years, and sat in Parliament under Mubarak for a long time. They categorically deny violence as a political means, now im afraid the MB is going to turn into a monster that wont be under their control and say politics was for suckers and start joining real jihadi groups, like Al Qaeda and Egyptian Islamic Jihad.




Right.  That's what I thought.  They are moderate only compared to raving drooling lunatics.  Deny violence?  They only eschewed violence because they knew they would be slaughtered.  Now they're doing it and yes I hold them responsible for the actions of their members.  Nobody who supports sharia law is moderate.  Why do you hate women?  Does their mere presence drive you to thoughts of rape?


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Re: Greenwald and his mule [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18748163 - 08/23/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The_Red_Crayon said:
And I wonder who was stonewalling his security concerns? Cause their was an equal amount of folks on the right who cut security for the Benghazi compound so if that's where you stand lets acknowledge that.




Another lie.  The administration had full control
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This is criminal negligence and I want this necklace to hang around Hillary's neck for the rest of her life and hopefully end her hideous political career.





I have a feeling this is why you and so many others really give a fuck about Benghazi, to bash Hilary in some way, good luck bro, she fucking eats scandals for lunch, whitewater to vince foster to Benghazi, they will never stick to her.




She gets away with this shit because we have a Clinton sucking press.  I want answers and why do support a serial liar and obfuscator?  For once hse was actually in charge and she fucked it up big time and then lied.
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Al Qaeda did it? You don't understand the nature of Al Qaeda it isn't some command and control type system where a leader shouts a command and all his underlings carry it out. Al Qaeda is decentralized, if an attack was carried out then maybe by a loosely affiliated group, but I distinctly remember Omar Abdul Rahman Brigades, not really in the whose who of bad guys flying the Al Qaeda banner, seems to me like a ad hoc group out of the recent civil unrest in Libya.




Did I say al Qaeda?  Nope.  I said it was a well planned and organized attack that had nothing to do with the stupid bullshit you and Hillary lied and said it did.  Are you a Clinton?  You like them.
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2.  There most certainly was a targeting of conservative groups far greater than of any others.  Further, it had nothing to do with abuse of the system, it had to do with getting tax exempt status in the first place.  They were disproportionately held out for greater scrutiny before they even had a chance to abuse the system.  Another rock.





They were scrutinizing non-profit 504 (c), now for that non-profit status they can allow only a certain level of political backing of a candidate or policy, the rest of the 504 has to do their stated mission, well in the recent election tons of political groups were created 504 (c) non-profit who were found to be exclusively supporting campaigns and funneling money into policies or candidates they support. You sir are the one under the rock because you see conspiracies and cover ups everywhere.




None of the 504 entities mentioned had been granted that status so they couldn't possibly have been abusing it, could they?  Do you even try to keep up?  During the application and interview process they received extremely onerous scrutiny.  You really shouldn't talk about shit of which you are stunningly ignorant.
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Aw the MB, you still going on about this, I never mentioned it in my posts, don't see how its relevant to the discussion at hand but yes, I do find the MB a lot more moderate then say, Saudia Arabia who are wahhabists, wahhabists = al Qaeda, they are seeking a global islamic caliphate that basically want to reclaim the empire of islam. Yes I find the MB a lot more moderate then most Islamic backed groups, namely they have been in politics in Egypt for quite a number of years, and sat in Parliament under Mubarak for a long time. They categorically deny violence as a political means, now im afraid the MB is going to turn into a monster that wont be under their control and say politics was for suckers and start joining real jihadi groups, like Al Qaeda and Egyptian Islamic Jihad.




Right.  That's what I thought.  They are moderate only compared to raving drooling lunatics.  Deny violence?  They only eschewed violence because they knew they would be slaughtered.  Now they're doing it and yes I hold them responsible for the actions of their members.  Nobody who supports sharia law is moderate.  Why do you hate women?  Does their mere presence drive you to thoughts of rape?



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Re: Greenwald and his mule [Re: HalfLight]
    #18750285 - 08/24/13 06:21 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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    #18750990 - 08/24/13 10:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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    #18751337 - 08/24/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

oh. my mistake then.


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    #18752008 - 08/24/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Another lie.  The administration had full control




Sure, but irrelevant, an inquiry was held and never even found Clinton responsible, lots of short comings in state department were found and their was responsibility on a lot of folks for security failures. I just don't see how almost a year later im hearing about this when I think most people are tired of hearing about this, I mean I don't think anyone even cares about this ambassador on both sides, I hope they catch the scumbags who did that's what should be the focus. Accusations of a cover up are absurd

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She gets away with this shit because we have a Clinton sucking press.  I want answers and why do support a serial liar and obfuscator?  For once hse was actually in charge and she fucked it up big time and then lied.




Duh, two sides of the same fucking coin, Obama runs his shit just like Bush Jr, fuck he even wants to appoint Larry Summers, the asshole treasury secretary under Clinton and Bush Jr. All one big jackoff family out to sop with big finance, what big finance says they do. What politician isn't a serial liar, its fucking politics Zappa, even you should know this. Every politician has some fucking dirt on them, Benghazi, all this shit, will just deflect right off her and the constant harping on Benghazi is not helping your Anti-Hilary ways, its frankly fucking pathetic. Whatever, Hilary is one the last people I would defend, but the conservatives are making themselves to look like fools every fucking day, and if they keep up their rate of idiocy, Its going to be Hilary/Biden sweeping through November in 2016.



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Did I say al Qaeda?  Nope.  I said it was a well planned and organized attack that had nothing to do with the stupid bullshit you and Hillary lied and said it did.  Are you a Clinton?  You like them.




Whoa, yea, it may of been well planned by distinctly also remember mobs all over the place, in Pakistan in Egypt, over some stupid fucking movie and a pastor, It was well planned and organized, after all its a country awash in fucking militia's and weapons, its completely asinine how little security they had. No I am not a Clinton, no I don't like them, I Think they are a corrupt political dynasty, but I think how the conservatives go after her is fucking repetitive and almost ad hominem, Bengazi Benghazi, cover, Lies, talking points, ad nauseum... I give a fuck about Hilary, and I don't support her, im just sick and fucking tired of hearing about Benghazi when far more important fucking issues are going on, its fucking pathetic.


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Right.  That's what I thought.  They are moderate only compared to raving drooling lunatics.  Deny violence?  They only eschewed violence because they knew they would be slaughtered.  Now they're doing it and yes I hold them responsible for the actions of their members.  Nobody who supports sharia law is moderate.  Why do you hate women?  Does their mere presence drive you to thoughts of rape?




Who did the slaughtering, cause It was the Egyptian army who slaughtered close to 800 or 900 people. I don't support Sharia law, but the majority of Islamic countries and people do and they democratically elected those positions. Saudia Arabia has Sharia law, they are our most influential allies, you don't find this the least bit hypocritical because I think you are totally fucking ignorant on the middle-east, like you can bring in some western style democracy. The MB could of worked, but like I said the economy in Egypt is tanking, im not saying the MB are angels, but no they are not fucking Al Qaeda, Al Qaeda and other extremists groups criticize them for being far to moderate, for eschewing violence, for clinging to parliamentary and government procedure. Now, Maybe I hope to god the Egyptian military can hold elections and a democratic system that incorporates all political parties is emplaced, but I don't see this happening, I see a criminalization of the MB, a large percentage of people being thrown in prison, tortured, human beings... 5 Journalists were shot during the crackdown, the army damn made sure no one saw the killing, prepare to see Egypt in violence for several years.


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Re: Greenwald and his mule [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #18752356 - 08/24/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Another lie.  The administration had full control




Sure, but irrelevant, an inquiry was held and never even found Clinton responsible, lots of short comings in state department were found and their was responsibility on a lot of folks for security failures. I just don't see how almost a year later im hearing about this when I think most people are tired of hearing about this, I mean I don't think anyone even cares about this ambassador on both sides, I hope they catch the scumbags who did that's what should be the focus. Accusations of a cover up are absurd




You may be tired of hearing about it and most people are oblivious morons  and the poodle press wants to hide it but I and Darrel Issa want some fucking answers.  If you're tired of hearing about it don't listen and fuck off back under whatever rock you have been inhabiting.  There is nothing absurd about accusations of a cover up when we already know they lied.  See Susan Rice.
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She gets away with this shit because we have a Clinton sucking press.  I want answers and why do support a serial liar and obfuscator?  For once hse was actually in charge and she fucked it up big time and then lied.




Duh, two sides of the same fucking coin, Obama runs his shit just like Bush Jr, fuck he even wants to appoint Larry Summers, the asshole treasury secretary under Clinton and Bush Jr. All one big jackoff family out to sop with big finance, what big finance says they do. What politician isn't a serial liar, its fucking politics Zappa, even you should know this. Every politician has some fucking dirt on them, Benghazi, all this shit, will just deflect right off her and the constant harping on Benghazi is not helping your Anti-Hilary ways, its frankly fucking pathetic. Whatever, Hilary is one the last people I would defend, but the conservatives are making themselves to look like fools every fucking day, and if they keep up their rate of idiocy, Its going to be Hilary/Biden sweeping through November in 2016.




No, not every politician has dirt on him or her.  There is no constant harping on Benghazi.  In fact there is a rather slow and deliberate investigation.  Why doesn't the administration just answer the simple questions?  Who ordered the stand down and who denied the increased security?  I want names and I want to hear, inasmuch as national security allows, the rationale.  That is not too much to ask.
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Did I say al Qaeda?  Nope.  I said it was a well planned and organized attack that had nothing to do with the stupid bullshit you and Hillary lied and said it did.  Are you a Clinton?  You like them.




Whoa, yea, it may of been well planned by distinctly also remember mobs all over the place, in Pakistan in Egypt, over some stupid fucking movie and a pastor, It was well planned and organized, after all its a country awash in fucking militia's and weapons, its completely asinine how little security they had. No I am not a Clinton, no I don't like them, I Think they are a corrupt political dynasty, but I think how the conservatives go after her is fucking repetitive and almost ad hominem, Bengazi Benghazi, cover, Lies, talking points, ad nauseum... I give a fuck about Hilary, and I don't support her, im just sick and fucking tired of hearing about Benghazi when far more important fucking issues are going on, its fucking pathetic.




If you are sick and tired of hearing about Benghazi then you can simply fuck off back to your aforementioned rock.  I don't know why you decided to lie about it if you are so sick of it.
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Right.  That's what I thought.  They are moderate only compared to raving drooling lunatics.  Deny violence?  They only eschewed violence because they knew they would be slaughtered.  Now they're doing it and yes I hold them responsible for the actions of their members.  Nobody who supports sharia law is moderate.  Why do you hate women?  Does their mere presence drive you to thoughts of rape?




Who did the slaughtering, cause It was the Egyptian army who slaughtered close to 800 or 900 people. I don't support Sharia law, but the majority of Islamic countries and people do and they democratically elected those positions. Saudia Arabia has Sharia law, they are our most influential allies, you don't find this the least bit hypocritical because I think you are totally fucking ignorant on the middle-east, like you can bring in some western style democracy. The MB could of worked, but like I said the economy in Egypt is tanking, im not saying the MB are angels, but no they are not fucking Al Qaeda, Al Qaeda and other extremists groups criticize them for being far to moderate, for eschewing violence, for clinging to parliamentary and government procedure. Now, Maybe I hope to god the Egyptian military can hold elections and a democratic system that incorporates all political parties is emplaced, but I don't see this happening, I see a criminalization of the MB, a large percentage of people being thrown in prison, tortured, human beings... 5 Journalists were shot during the crackdown, the army damn made sure no one saw the killing, prepare to see Egypt in violence for several years.




The MB "could have worked"? 
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2013/08/muslim-brotherhood-ban-egypt-terrorist-list.html

I don't think so.  The only reason Morsi got elected is because there was no other organization.  Except the military and they stayed out of it.  Have you ever seen me post anything supporting the Saudi sharia nuts?  No, you have not.  But you are supporting the Egyptian sharia nuts.  Why do you hate women?


If you are sick of hearing about Benghazi, don't listen.  There are many of us who are appalled about that cock up and want to know who is responsible.  I want names and scalps.


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Re: Greenwald and his mule [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18755196 - 08/25/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I bet you an the Arsonist/Car Thief Issa cant wait to get to the bottom of this, best call the Mystery Wagon for that one, b4 Issa steals it or burns it down.

Saying I Hate women is a strawman makes you look patethetic, no I don't hate women, Are you aware their are Sharia laws in Afghanistan right now as we are occupying it, are you that fucking obtuse you don't realize that almost every muslim country has a law set built on sharia. Similar to the ten commandments. Whatever I don't care that much about the MB, I only see much instability in Egypt for a long time, but I doubt you care about that.
http://www.care2.com/causes/afghan-parliament-its-against-sharia-law-to-outlaw-beating-women.html


http://www.usnews.com/news/newsgram/articles/2013/05/01/muslims-in-iraq-afghanistan-most-likely-to-want-sharia-least-likely-to-oppose-honor-killings-pew-finds


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Re: Greenwald and his mule [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #18755276 - 08/25/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I think you're making my point for me.  There is no such thing as a moderate sharia supporter and if you support the MB, and it certainly seems like you were, you are supporting extremist nutjobs.


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