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wiggles
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Mystery mushrooms from the garden!
#18742997 - 08/22/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey everyone! I'll keep it short and sweet. I found these today growing at the base of my pole beans. They're sending me a signal that says "We're delicious! Just try a nibble!"
I think they could be lying.
They're about 2-4 inches across. They have the color of a lightly brown chicken egg. Upon cutting one open I noticed that it seemed to bruise yellow. It has the texture of soft furniture foam (the stuff they make couch cushions out of) with a thin but leathery skin.
The garden is a raised bed, filled with compost, peat moss, and vermiculite.
Any help identifying them would be wonderful!!
Below are some pictures I took:



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Hashfinger
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Re: Mystery mushrooms from the garden! [Re: wiggles]
#18743022 - 08/22/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Puffball species. Don't know which one. I wouldn't eat it if I saw bright staining though. Wait for a TI's opinion on edibility. Other edible puffballs are delish.
-------------------- Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus (Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus
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wiggles
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Re: Mystery mushrooms from the garden! [Re: wiggles]
#18743024 - 08/22/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also, there was no resistance when twisting it off from the ground, just a tiny (less than a half centimeter) tuft of dirt, so it must have started very small at the base? As you can see, there's no discernable stem.
Also, I am in the midatlantic (PA/NJ/NY) area.
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Edited by wiggles (08/22/13 03:44 PM)
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Hashfinger
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Re: Mystery mushrooms from the garden! [Re: wiggles]
#18743039 - 08/22/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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wiggles said: Also, there was no resistance when twisting it off from the ground, just a tiny (less than a half centimeter) tuft of dirt, so it must have started very small at the base? As you can see, there's no discernable stem.
Also, I am in the midatlantic (PA/NJ/NY) area.
Puffballs don't have stems. They're usually almost perfectly round, or have a short stalk-like projection like yours. Google some images of puffballs. I have heard that any of them that are solid on the interior are edible, but that staining doesn't strike me as edible... How do they smell? Any notes of chlorine or ammonia? Or do they smell like a sweet button mushroom?
-------------------- Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus (Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus
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wiggles
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Re: Mystery mushrooms from the garden! [Re: Hashfinger]
#18743125 - 08/22/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Interestingly enough, after a few minutes of being cut, all yellow staining has moved towards the bottom (where it had been connected to the ground). There is a clear line. I'll try and get a photo after dinner.
Honestly, it smells mushroomy to me? Like there's nothing immediately offputting about it. Edit: Here's the yellowing I mentioned.
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Edited by wiggles (08/22/13 04:13 PM)
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Re: Mystery mushrooms from the garden! [Re: wiggles]
#18743831 - 08/22/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would guess Calvatia Craniiformis. Not sure about the yellowing part. Maybe it's related to beginning spore production.
-Ah upon further reading.. the spore print is yellow-brown for this mushroom. And it's edible. But yeah I'm not a TI.
Edited by serratedlips (08/22/13 06:56 PM)
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Hashfinger
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Re: Mystery mushrooms from the garden! [Re: serratedlips]
#18743891 - 08/22/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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serratedlips said: I would guess Calvatia Craniiformis. Not sure about the yellowing part. Maybe it's related to beginning spore production.
-Ah upon further reading.. the spore print is yellow-brown for this mushroom.
What about some of the "orange staining" Calvatia?
-------------------- Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus (Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus
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Re: Mystery mushrooms from the garden! [Re: Hashfinger]
#18743996 - 08/22/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not sure, but these are tan colored and rather skull shaped, so I leaned towards craniiformis. *shrug!* I shouldn't have mentioned anything about edibility, since I've never actually encountered one in the field.
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Hashfinger
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Re: Mystery mushrooms from the garden! [Re: serratedlips]
#18744544 - 08/22/13 09:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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serratedlips said: Not sure, but these are tan colored and rather skull shaped, so I leaned towards craniiformis. *shrug!* I shouldn't have mentioned anything about edibility, since I've never actually encountered one in the field. 
I find them all the time on ball fields, parks, and neighborhoods. Although its rare you find them unsquashed or kicked to pieces by kids. I TOTALLY have NEVER kicked one over myself... Or anything like that... Who would do that? Not me... I'll eat them! And okay kick one or two sometimes. Its really fun...
-------------------- Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus (Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus
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Re: Mystery mushrooms from the garden! [Re: Hashfinger]
#18744582 - 08/22/13 09:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I always heard if a puffball was solid white inside with no dark spores that it was ok to eat. That could be for around here only for all I know though.
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wiggles
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Re: Mystery mushrooms from the garden! [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#18745781 - 08/23/13 06:04 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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craniiformis seems to be correct! After looking at a ton of pictures I am nearly certain. The color and skin texture are right. The spore color explains the yellow/brown color inside. There are also only 3 potentially dangerous lookalikes, earthballs, young stinkhorns, and amanitas. Its the wrong color and skin texture for earthballs because it is smooth/brainy. It also is white and soft inside instead of black/purple and hard. It isn't an amanita because when cut in half there weren't gills or a stem hidden. It isn't a stinkhorn because there aren't layers of slime. So that leaves either edible Calvatia Craniiformis, or at the very least an edible puffball (from what my foraging books are saying, puffballs as a group are edible). Thoughts? Agree or disagree?
Considering butter frying one this evening and giving it a shot (so long as they're still young).
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Re: Mystery mushrooms from the garden! [Re: Hashfinger]
#18745965 - 08/23/13 07:43 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hashfinger said:
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serratedlips said: Not sure, but these are tan colored and rather skull shaped, so I leaned towards craniiformis. *shrug!* I shouldn't have mentioned anything about edibility, since I've never actually encountered one in the field. 
I find them all the time on ball fields, parks, and neighborhoods. Although its rare you find them unsquashed or kicked to pieces by kids. I TOTALLY have NEVER kicked one over myself... Or anything like that... Who would do that? Not me... I'll eat them! And okay kick one or two sometimes. Its really fun...
If it's at the stage of releasing spores then you're doing it a favour! In fact it is required that something external makes it release it's spores.
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Re: Mystery mushrooms from the garden! [Re: Untitled]
#18749231 - 08/23/13 09:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeh, sounds like you've done your homework and they aren't getting any fresher. ;-)
Doing just one as a taster is a good idea. Put a bit in your mouth and munge it up, spit it out. Taste good? Wait a few minutes. Any nasty stuff, acrid, burning, other unplesantness?
No? Fry 'er up. I hear they're mighty tasty. If it's too soft, it's probably a bit too old. Should be very firm.
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