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60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!)
    #18742765 - 08/22/13 02:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

http://www.rtl.be/info/belgique/faitsdivers/1026861/trafic-de-drogue-international-demantele-60-millions-de-pilules-d-ecstasy-saisies-?utm_source=info&utm_medium=HP_Headline&utm_campaign=HP_Headline_3

International drug trafficking dismantled "60 million ecstasy pills seized".
Investigators from the Federal Judicial Police Asse apprehended 14 people suspected of being part of an international gang of drug traffickers. The criminal organization, active in Belgium, but also in Poland and Turkey, is specialized in the production and sale of ecstasy.

The different searches conducted in Belgium, Poland and the Netherlands have, besides the arrest of 14 criminals, to hand over two clandestine laboratories and two warehouses. According to federal prosecutors, the arrested suspects are part of a structured criminal organization existing for several years.

"An organization very well rehearsed"

Our reporter Vanessa Costanzo delivered us more details on this case, live in our newspaper 19h: "The searches were conducted in several cities across the country, but also abroad, in Poland, the Netherlands at all. , 30 searches were conducted this morning. They revealed the day a truly international drug trafficking. these producers produced ecstasy tablets. 14 people were arrested. 11 ​​must be heard tonight by the judge . It will decide to put the name under arrest. what is clear is that it would be a very well rehearsed organization, established for many years, "said our reporter. Before adding: "You could also think that those members of this band could be armed and dangerous."

60 million of ecstasy pills

"Impressive quantities of drugs were seized. Two laboratories were on our territory and two warehouses were also recovered by the police who intervened during this investigation. A ton of MDMA was found in these laboratories. MDMA is a substance that can produce these pills of ecstasy. 1,000 kilograms of MDMA can produce 60 million ecstasy pills that were sold on the Belgian market and probably in foreign countries, "she says.



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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: GoddessOfLove] * 1
    #18742982 - 08/22/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Holy fuck a thousand keys of MDMA!!! :macdre:


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: BoomerMan420]
    #18743032 - 08/22/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

holy fuck



I wonder how big of an impact this is gona have on the ecstacy market


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Sheekle]
    #18743067 - 08/22/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

That is the extacy market...


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Konyap]
    #18743114 - 08/22/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

yeah i'm sad too, oh well there'll be more, there always is over here :lol:

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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Beanhead]
    #18743298 - 08/22/13 04:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Holy shit that's a fuck ton of MDMA.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: GoddessOfLove] * 1
    #18743386 - 08/22/13 05:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

say hello to more people overdosing on bunk e pills....


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Beanhead]
    #18743583 - 08/22/13 05:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You don't understand we get the ingrediants from like jungle asian countries, big time drug dealers aren't going that far they just want easy shit to make like heroin and cocaine.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Taybs]
    #18743613 - 08/22/13 06:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

1kg = 1000g
1g = 1000mg

1000kg = 1 billion mg

1 billion mg / 60 million pills = 16.67 mg per pill

Either the reporter can't do math or these guys were going ot make the weakest pills on the market.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Smushroom]
    #18743654 - 08/22/13 06:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Smushroom said:
1kg = 1000g
1g = 1000mg

1000kg = 1 billion mg

1 billion mg / 60 million pills = 16.67 mg per pill

Either the reporter can't do math or these guys were going ot make the weakest pills on the market.




Police are often incorrect on how much of a substance they seized as well as the cost.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Smushroom]
    #18743660 - 08/22/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Math ftw.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Toe_Jam]
    #18743683 - 08/22/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I know cops and news people exaggerate the street value all the time but when it comes to just stating the number of doses from a given bulk amount (in metric no less) it is simple division.

Most all drug dealers can convert from metric to standard weights pretty easily and do arithmetic pretty quickly. I highly doubt most cops could. So clearly drugs hurt your analytical ability.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Smushroom]
    #18743700 - 08/22/13 06:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Clearly a lack of drugs hurt your analytical ability.

I wonder if this are the same folks who have been making those good European pills that have been flooding the world for a while.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Smushroom] * 1
    #18743707 - 08/22/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Theres goes the price of any sort of mdma

if i was still in the molle game this would be time to just sit on an ounce and wait 6 months :lol:


Now 60 million pills of dangerous RC's will take this mdma's places and end up hurting a lot of people :feelsbadman:


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Taybs]
    #18743714 - 08/22/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Taybs said:
say hello to more people overdosing on bunk e pills....



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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: D.M.T]
    #18743716 - 08/22/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Measuring correctly would require logic and thinking.

I know for a fact they don't teach this in high school and in college it only gets worse as the amount of ass kissery widens.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Konyap]
    #18744172 - 08/22/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

While this will kill their direct supply chain for a bit, this isn't that much in terms of global production. As an educated guess I would say that much is produced every 4-6 days worldwide and that may actually be a low estimate.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) *DELETED* [Re: Smushroom]
    #18744290 - 08/22/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Smushroom]
    #18744296 - 08/22/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Smushroom said:
1kg = 1000g
1g = 1000mg

1000kg = 1 billion mg

1 billion mg / 60 million pills = 16.67 mg per pill

Either the reporter can't do math or these guys were going ot make the weakest pills on the market.




Not quite...

1kg = 1000g
1g = 1000mg

1kg = 1 million mg

1 million mg / 60 million pills = .01667 mg / pill


But yeah, that reporter is clueless.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Smushroom]
    #18744345 - 08/22/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Smushroom said:
1kg = 1000g
1g = 1000mg

1000kg = 1 billion mg

1 billion mg / 60 million pills = 16.67 mg per pill





Yes 1kg = 1 million mg but they seized 1000kg and that is what I quoted in my numbers and 1000kg = 1 billion mg


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Smushroom]
    #18744350 - 08/22/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

While these guys may have supplied the seller on SR I highly doubt they sold retail.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Smushroom]
    #18744692 - 08/22/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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As an educated guess I would say that much is produced every 4-6 days worldwide and that may actually be a low estimate.



Are you serious? That's insane


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Sheekle]
    #18744989 - 08/22/13 11:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

2000 lbs every six? maybe like every few weeks.

I don't use extacy so I'm not going to bother looking it up


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Konyap]
    #18745343 - 08/23/13 01:37 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

So the comming time we will see and hear more about xtc overdoses in Belgium...


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: siriusmushroom]
    #18745427 - 08/23/13 02:18 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)
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Global ecstacy seizures in 2010 were ~4000kg but they were as high as 16000kg in 2007. I imagine with the rise in EDM the past few years they are up around 10000kg / year again.

If you assume a 10% seizure rate that is 100,000kg produced per year or approx. 2,000kg per week.

I would guess the seizure rate is more like 5% but I was being on the generous side. I'll attach a pdf from the UN drug website with the numbers.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #18745721 - 08/23/13 05:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I wonder if these folks were the vendor on SR located in Belgium. Been on there for two years and have hands down the biggest order sizes/pressy options to choose.from. Also second best stealth from any vendor Ive ever seen. Either way I expect a price hike in the near future. That's a fucking unbelievable amount of mdma.





There's been busts like this before, price range has always been €10-€30


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Beanhead]
    #18745749 - 08/23/13 05:46 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

If this is the correct chain we're all thinking about, it could be assumed they supplied much more than one vendor on SR, and they've been around much longer than SR's existence. More likely they supplied the vendor's suppliers. I would even go so far as to say this is directly related to the recent safrole bust in Thailand:
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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: D.M.T]
    #18745857 - 08/23/13 06:50 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I bet this much is taken from small time busts once a year or a half.  What a waist of tree matter.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: dark3st]
    #18745977 - 08/23/13 07:48 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

i was a little disappointing with the g of moon rock i have now, but now its seeming mighty fine. just have to ration it properly.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: justdontgetit]
    #18746317 - 08/23/13 09:28 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

BRUSSELS (AP) - A three-nation investigation led to one of the biggest seizures of synthetic drugs in Europe, a haul of products to create Ecstasy pills with a street value of 1.3 billion euros ($1.75 billion), the Belgian prosecutor's office said Friday.

After 30 raids in Belgium, the Netherlands and Poland, 11 people were under arrest charged with possession, production and trading in drugs as part of a criminal gang, it said.

"It is the biggest such bust ever in Belgium and one of the largest in Europe," Wenke Roggen, spokeswoman for the federal prosecutor's office, said. "It is quite incredible."

Products seized included about 1,000 kilograms of MDMA and 18.5 tons of Ecstasy precursor safrole, Roggen said. The criminal organization was made up of people with Belgian, Polish and Turkish nationality, Roggen said.

Most of the products were discovered in a suburban Brussels garage and in southern farmland around the city of Chimay, where men in biohazard suits were still working on the cleanup operation on Friday. Products were also found at an undisclosed location in the Netherlands.

"It is a shock that our region was at the center of such an important production of illegal products," Chimay mayor Francoise Fassieux said.

Authorities had to evacuate some people around the area of the plant where the drugs were produced, Fassieux said.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: fapjack]
    #18746320 - 08/23/13 09:29 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

This might seriously effect the market for a while, this was a huge operation.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: fapjack]
    #18746362 - 08/23/13 09:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I reckon a dutch superlab or two could produce that much shard in a few weeks time. Fear not.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #18746368 - 08/23/13 09:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

wasnt there a large bust a couple months ago?


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Smushroom]
    #18747608 - 08/23/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Smushroom said:
Quote:

Smushroom said:
1kg = 1000g
1g = 1000mg

1000kg = 1 billion mg

1 billion mg / 60 million pills = 16.67 mg per pill





Yes 1kg = 1 million mg but they seized 1000kg and that is what I quoted in my numbers and 1000kg = 1 billion mg




Smushroom's math is correct.  It's so easy when the measures are metric.

1 X 10^3 x 1 X 10^3 x 1 X 10^3 = 1 X 10^9, or 1 billion.

Motherfucker that's a ton of ANYTHING, let alone Ecstasy.

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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Nature Boy]
    #18747779 - 08/23/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

1000Kg*2.2lbs/kg*16oz/lb*28g/oz*10 doses/g=9,856,000.

60,000,000 doses/9856000 doses *100=609% percent discrepancy. I think I've cracked the dosage /weight exaggeration. Divide by roughly 6 and you arrive somewhere in the ballpark.

Edit:lol face palming myself for the excess conversions...old habits. Still 98 percent on point oh well.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: utk]
    #18747930 - 08/23/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I wantttt


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: alienshaman]
    #18747987 - 08/23/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

1000kg of mdma seems like nothing when they seize 18.5 tons of safrole :P

I still doubt this will effect the price/supply much at all. I assume there is enough product on hand to last a few weeks and by then the other major producers will just increase their production for fill the void. When you are looking a multi-billion dollar a year industry there are plenty that are willing to take their place


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Smushroom]
    #18748814 - 08/23/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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1000kg of mdma seems like nothing when they seize 18.5 tons of safrole :P

I still doubt this will effect the price/supply much at all. I assume there is enough product on hand to last a few weeks and by then the other major producers will just increase their production for fill the void. When you are looking a multi-billion dollar a year industry there are plenty that are willing to take their place




haha this was all the discussion today here, exactly this :lol:

Laundering all the money seems such a hard task.


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Beanhead]
    #18748850 - 08/23/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Not really just go thru WaMu or citibank...


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Beanhead]
    #18749211 - 08/23/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Solution: give shit away for free.

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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Toe_Jam]
    #18749275 - 08/23/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

sucks that we can't ingest whatever the hell we want!  BS!


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: refried]
    #18750044 - 08/24/13 02:46 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Well, technically we can.  Just don't get caught doing it. :yesnod:


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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: SuperD]
    #18750202 - 08/24/13 04:46 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

:whathesaid:

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Re: 60 Millions Ecstasy Pills seized in Belgium (1000 kg MDMA seized!) [Re: Nature Boy]
    #18751545 - 08/24/13 01:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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