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testko
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Where does this insight come from?
#18741272 - 08/22/13 08:54 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I took 0.5 mg LSD, since I took 0.2 mg few months ago and didn't feel a thing, except tickling all over the body and dilated pupils. This is a lot, especially since I'm only 55kg. The trip was really strong and lasted 15 hours before I was able to fall asleep.
Now on with the question. I was able to look at my actions from other's people perspective, actively switching between my and their mindset, exactly as I was in their head. What do I mean? Let me put and example here.
I read an SMS I have sent to a girl I loved (and she despises me) again after some time and I felt how she felt when she had read it. I felt shame, feeling her exact mindset, her intense disgust with my pathetic words. I felt sorry to have bothered her. (However this SMS feels normal if I read it sober). I have also seen almost all of my actions towards her very childish.
So, where does this ability to see own actions from other people's perspective come from? Which option best describes the answer?
1. It could come from the essential fabric of the universe, our minds being entangled and essentially together and LSD somehow enables access to this structure. Edit: You can call this telepathy, if you want.
2. LSD enhances our ability to access our subconsciousness, where all her actions are stored and rethinked, knowing how her character & mindset is like, allowing me to evaluate my actions using this data.
3. I wasn't actually able to do that, so my insights are NOT true. LSD just projected my fear of being judged by other people.
p.s: Is it normal to feel other people's exact mindstate during the trip?
Edited by testko (08/23/13 01:16 AM)
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Re: Where does this insight come from? [Re: testko]
#18741309 - 08/22/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Honestly, this is one of my favorite aspects to LSD: an overarching sense of community and one-ness. I see lots of arrogant, self-centered people try LSD for the first time and have drastic changes of mind. The drug allows you to feel things from every angle and perspective. Maybe before you were too in love with this girl to realize how she felt, but by looking at it from another perspective, you can now see that the situation is different when you stand in her shoes.
We are all made up of the same material. We have different sets of DNA, yet our bodies are still made up of the same elements, the same building blocks, when you break us down. The only difference between me and you is that we are contained in two different bodies. We're all one, and the sooner we realize that, the better!
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testko
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Re: Where does this insight come from? [Re: KingKnowledge]
#18741397 - 08/22/13 09:35 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Offtopic: That is funny, because she is a sociopath and only cares about the money and only forms relationships with people only if they are beneficial to her. Maybe I should propose her to go on a trip with me?
As far as I am concerned, I have always realized that other people think differently and respected other opinions and lifestyles. But during the trip, I felt mostly other consciousnesses (people) judging me for my body, looks and actions. I would just like to know whether those were the projections of my fears or true, real insights.
p.s.: I think you misunderstood me, I was able to feel them exactly. I felt I was in their head.
Edited by testko (08/22/13 09:52 AM)
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Re: Where does this insight come from? [Re: testko]
#18742540 - 08/22/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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You felt what she was feeling. It's called empathizing, one of the great effects of acid.
-------------------- “Everybody is fundamentally, the ultimate reality. Not god in the political kingly sense, but god in the sense of being the self – the deep down basic whatever there is. And you’re all that… only you’re pretending you’re not.” -Alan Watts I think that in human evolution it has never been as necessary to have this substance LSD. It is just a tool to turn us into what we are supposed to be.” ― Albert Hofmann
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Re: Where does this insight come from? [Re: LysergicX7]
#18742843 - 08/22/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I wouldn't say you were experiencing exactly what she was experiencing. I would say you're were experiencing your perception of what she would feel in regards to the texts you sent, this perception based off of how you would feel if you were in the same situation and she had sent these texts to you.
Make sense?
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Re: Where does this insight come from? [Re: backfire16]
#18743416 - 08/22/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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after several drops of lsd, I definitely felt a very real sense of telepathy. I honestly do believe it makes you far more intuitive than the average person, if you're the type to take to it kindly.
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I am a total believer of the idea that LSD allows you to see other peoples perspective on you. When i used to dose at my local ski mountain, I would always study human interaction. What strangers were doing with each other and how they interacted. I also smoked at the time, but when i dosed, It really made me think differently and deeply about how people saw me as a smoker. It really makes you think doesn't it?
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Re: Where does this insight come from? [Re: Labs4858]
#18743545 - 08/22/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's the part about what I love LSD most...it gives you that sixth telepathic sense where you can completely decode other's true intentions and present-feelings within them, as well as the way your own emotion plays with them...communicating with others on lsd without words is the best thing ever.
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Re: Where does this insight come from? [Re: Labs4858]
#18743547 - 08/22/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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And if you want my scientific theory;
I believe when LSD enters the brain it blocks certain neurological traffic. For example, the cortical areas involved in the processing of visual stimuli are located in the occipital lobe and LSD could be blocking traffic in this region of the brain causing hallucinations. And causing auditory hallucinations, LSD could slow traffic in the auditory cortex.
I also believe that it could speed up neurological traffic in some areas of the brain. Concentration and certain thoughts are believed to be originated from the frontal cortex. Certain traffic in this region of the brain might be sped up by LSD, causing enhanced thought and concentration. Ex.(Your perception on how others see you)
Thats just a theory. No one completely and thoroughly understands the brain, and when you introduce a drug like LSD into it, it's a completely different ballgame. I love to study these things while dosing and wish to find out more about this just like you!
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