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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: JoieDeVivre]
#18741972 - 08/22/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Na not really. Just find it funny that it comes out on major news outlets now that he's been sentenced.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: unknown1123] 4
#18741977 - 08/22/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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unknown1123 said: People in history class 50-100 years from now are going to be reading some funny shit.
Patriot pvt manning leaks classified data and then renounces pronounces himself as a woman. Eric Snowden, leaks classified data and flees from supposedly the most free country to the one that's supposedly one of the least free..
Or they'll prob just emit omit it all and say the USA was the best country ever and still is today
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Gumby]
#18741984 - 08/22/13 11:46 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gumby said: His sex change should go over great for that 35 years he's spending in prison. I'm sure he'll be queen of the weight room prom every year.
He can get out in 7 if they grant him parole, we shall see if that happens or not though. I personally think he should just kill himself.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: fapjack]
#18741986 - 08/22/13 11:46 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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That would save him a good few years of grief.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: unknown1123] 5
#18741991 - 08/22/13 11:48 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Constantine said: How are they fucked in the head ? Please next time keep your shitty opinion to yourself. I also think it's weird and I'd never do it, because I don't want to, but it's no reason to say they're fucked in the head, and it's none of my business what people choose to do.
please take your own advice... No one wants to read your shitty opinion 
Except my opinion isn't hurting anyone. It's thanks to people like you who think transsexuals are " fucked in the head " that we have things like the Russian law on " homosexual propaganda ".
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Constantine]
#18742001 - 08/22/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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That seems ever so slightly extreme. I don't think his opinion has hurt anything besides your feelings, apparently. I'm curious how you make that connection. Or are you just all upset now?
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: mpd]
#18742005 - 08/22/13 11:50 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I wonder how long Manning wanted to be a female, if it was something he struggled with his whole life or if it only surfaced recently. I'm sure being put into a submissive lifestyle because of his actions didn't help.
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psi said: A few people on here identify similarly.
Yeah those same people come across as very masculine when they talk about females being attractive and what not, it seriously confuses the shit out of me. It makes me think "Are you becoming a female and then becoming a lesbian too?" Like Garrison from South Park or something. This is in no way meant to flame, I just don't understand people who want to be the opposite gender yet go on about finding females attractive.
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mpd said: He just wants to get out of hard labor by claiming he's a girl. The Army will make sure this scumbag gets every single thing that's coming to him.
Yeah, real scumbag for informing the American people of war crimes and torture. 
He will be hailed as a hero in the history books, along with Snowden.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Everlong]
#18742031 - 08/22/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Everlong said: He will be hailed as a hero in the history books, along with Snowden.
Depends who writes them. I have a feeling things will only get worse in the years to come.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Everlong] 2
#18742032 - 08/22/13 11:57 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Everlong said: I wonder how long Manning wanted to be a female, if it was something he struggled with his whole life or if it only surfaced recently. I'm sure being put into a submissive lifestyle because of his actions didn't help.
It's been a lifelong thing. Everyone who is interested in the subject (meaning the case, not necessarily Manning's personal life though it does go into this issue and how it affected him while he was serving) should watch We Steal Secrets: The Story of WikiLeaks. It's a great documentary that's mostly free of bias.
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Yeah those same people come across as very masculine when they talk about females being attractive and what not, it seriously confuses the shit out of me. It makes me think "Are you becoming a female and then becoming a lesbian too?" Like Garrison from South Park or something. This is in no way meant to flame, I just don't understand people who want to be the opposite gender yet go on about finding females attractive.
I understand why that could be confusing, but gender identity doesn't really have much to do with sexual attraction outside of socialization. You can be attracted to any gender no matter what your own personal gender is. 
This is a pretty good infographic that shows how complex sexual/gender identity is:
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Gumby]
#18742037 - 08/22/13 11:57 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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unknown1123 said: People in history class 50-100 years from now are going to be reading some funny shit.
Patriot pvt manning leaks classified data and then renounces pronounces himself as a woman. Eric Snowden, leaks classified data and flees from supposedly the most free country to the one that's supposedly one of the least free..
Or they'll prob just emit omit it all and say the USA was the best country ever and still is today
ur doin it wrong.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Everlong]
#18742040 - 08/22/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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psi said: A few people on here identify similarly.
Yeah those same people come across as very masculine when they talk about females being attractive and what not, it seriously confuses the shit out of me. It makes me think "Are you becoming a female and then becoming a lesbian too?" Like Garrison from South Park or something. This is in no way meant to flame, I just don't understand people who want to be the opposite gender yet go on about finding females attractive.
The explanation I heard was that the self-identity thing is not itself directly tied to sexual feelings. I found it confusing as well though, before the situation was explained I had always assumed that people were using the opposite gender icon as a joke or whatever.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: psi]
#18742042 - 08/22/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: psi]
#18742084 - 08/22/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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psi said: A few people on here identify similarly.
Yeah those same people come across as very masculine when they talk about females being attractive and what not, it seriously confuses the shit out of me. It makes me think "Are you becoming a female and then becoming a lesbian too?" Like Garrison from South Park or something. This is in no way meant to flame, I just don't understand people who want to be the opposite gender yet go on about finding females attractive.
The explanation I heard was that the self-identity thing is not itself directly tied to sexual feelings. I found it confusing as well though, before the situation was explained I had always assumed that people were using the opposite gender icon as a joke or whatever.
I see. I saw the chart Joie posted as well.
Look, I'm not trying to start a debate but like I said I don't understand people who want to change their gender to female going on about how sexy women are. It just reminds me of Mr. Garrison from South Park, he became a female, only to hate men and be a lesbian. It doesn't help we are on a drug website and people are loaded on mind altering chemicals.
Then again I have a hard time connecting to the general idea of transgender at all, because I've never experienced those feelings.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Herbologist]
#18742087 - 08/22/13 12:08 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Soooo, now he's demanding that the military provide him with hormone therapy and sexual reassignment surgery?
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Everlong] 2
#18742114 - 08/22/13 12:12 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Everlong said: I wonder how long Manning wanted to be a female, if it was something he struggled with his whole life or if it only surfaced recently. I'm sure being put into a submissive lifestyle because of his actions didn't help.
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psi said: A few people on here identify similarly.
Yeah those same people come across as very masculine when they talk about females being attractive and what not, it seriously confuses the shit out of me. It makes me think "Are you becoming a female and then becoming a lesbian too?" Like Garrison from South Park or something. This is in no way meant to flame, I just don't understand people who want to be the opposite gender yet go on about finding females attractive.
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mpd said: He just wants to get out of hard labor by claiming he's a girl. The Army will make sure this scumbag gets every single thing that's coming to him.
Yeah, real scumbag for informing the American people of war crimes and torture. 
He will be hailed as a hero in the history books, along with Snowden.
I doubt it.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam] 1
#18742117 - 08/22/13 12:12 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Damn this politically correct country is so fucked up
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: mpd]
#18742126 - 08/22/13 12:14 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Everlong said: I wonder how long Manning wanted to be a female, if it was something he struggled with his whole life or if it only surfaced recently. I'm sure being put into a submissive lifestyle because of his actions didn't help.
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psi said: A few people on here identify similarly.
Yeah those same people come across as very masculine when they talk about females being attractive and what not, it seriously confuses the shit out of me. It makes me think "Are you becoming a female and then becoming a lesbian too?" Like Garrison from South Park or something. This is in no way meant to flame, I just don't understand people who want to be the opposite gender yet go on about finding females attractive.
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mpd said: He just wants to get out of hard labor by claiming he's a girl. The Army will make sure this scumbag gets every single thing that's coming to him.
Yeah, real scumbag for informing the American people of war crimes and torture. 
He will be hailed as a hero in the history books, along with Snowden.
I doubt it.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: mpd]
#18742133 - 08/22/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Everlong said: I wonder how long Manning wanted to be a female, if it was something he struggled with his whole life or if it only surfaced recently. I'm sure being put into a submissive lifestyle because of his actions didn't help.
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psi said: A few people on here identify similarly.
Yeah those same people come across as very masculine when they talk about females being attractive and what not, it seriously confuses the shit out of me. It makes me think "Are you becoming a female and then becoming a lesbian too?" Like Garrison from South Park or something. This is in no way meant to flame, I just don't understand people who want to be the opposite gender yet go on about finding females attractive.
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mpd said: He just wants to get out of hard labor by claiming he's a girl. The Army will make sure this scumbag gets every single thing that's coming to him.
Yeah, real scumbag for informing the American people of war crimes and torture. 
He will be hailed as a hero in the history books, along with Snowden.
I doubt it.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Everlong] 3
#18742157 - 08/22/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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We'll see.
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Everlong said: I don't understand people who want to change their gender to female... ...Then again I have a hard time connecting to the general idea of transgender at all, because I've never experienced those feelings.
So maybe you should ask them what it's like instead of assuming you know what's going on in another human being's mind.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Everlong]
#18742158 - 08/22/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Everlong said: Look, I'm not trying to start a debate but like I said I don't understand people who want to change their gender to female going on about how sexy women are. It just reminds me of Mr. Garrison from South Park, he became a female, only to hate men and be a lesbian. It doesn't help we are on a drug website and people are loaded on mind altering chemicals.
Then again I have a hard time connecting to the general idea of transgender at all, because I've never experienced those feelings.
Yeah I don't "get it" personally either (especially the surgery thing,) but to each their own.
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