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Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck
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Bradley Manning, the US soldier who leaked secret US government documents to the Wikileaks website, has announced he wants to live as a woman.
"I am Chelsea Manning," Pte First Class Manning, 25, said in a statement to NBC's Today programme. "I am a female."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23798253
What's up with all these people claiming they want to be women, is this a trend to keep shit alive in the media? What in the actual fuck, who gives a flying fuck if you're fucked up in the head and want to be a woman, be a bitch with a dick, who cares. That should be some personal shit, not something to be used to get a edge or front page story..

Where are the women getting in trouble that say they always wanted to be a man? That'd be something new
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yeah I saw that in the drudge this morning.hilarious! nowthats what I call getting ready for prison!
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: unknown1123]
#18741770 - 08/22/13 10:51 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enjoy your poster child, libs.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
#18741778 - 08/22/13 10:51 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Niffla]
#18741835 - 08/22/13 11:04 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Niffla said: Bradley be trollin
agreed. This is actually a great idea for him (her).
Now, the media will jump all over this case, supporters will flock in from other camps for Chelsea, and he gets the chance at getting into female lockup. LGBT alliance reporters/bloggers/activists will be on his side, now. All the help helps.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: unknown1123] 2
#18741844 - 08/22/13 11:07 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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what's wrong with wanting to be a woman?
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Hasn't he/she drama whored enough?
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I sort of agree with OP, I don't know why he had to announce it to the media, especially at such an awkward time.
But why do you say he is "fucked in the head" OP? The dude wants to be a chick, so what?
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Doctor Sponge]
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claraclairvoyant said: what's wrong with wanting to be a woman?
I sort of agree with OP, I don't know why he had to announce it to the media, especially at such an awkward time.
But why do you say he is "fucked in the head" OP? The dude wants to be a chick, so what?
Sorry, I guess I haven't reached the stage of enlightenment when you look down at your dick and say damn I want to be a woman and call it normal...
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
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This^^
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: unknown1123]
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How are they fucked in the head ? Please next time keep your shitty opinion to yourself. I also think it's weird and I'd never do it, because I don't want to, but it's no reason to say they're fucked in the head, and it's none of my business what people choose to do.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: unknown1123]
#18741902 - 08/22/13 11:27 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I can't relate to that situation personally either, but if someone appears to be serious about it then I try to respect that. A few people on here identify similarly.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: unknown1123]
#18741909 - 08/22/13 11:29 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I sort of agree with OP, I don't know why he had to announce it to the media, especially at such an awkward time.
But why do you say he is "fucked in the head" OP? The dude wants to be a chick, so what?
Sorry, I guess I haven't reached the stage of enlightenment when you look down at your dick and say damn I want to be a woman and call it normal...
People are into different shit man, it's not that big of a deal. I am more than happy with my X and Y chromosome setup, but if someone else wants to be a woman, who gives a shit? More power to them, I wouldn't say they are "fucked in the head"
And on top of that once the singularity hits we won't even have genders anymore so it won't even matter.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: MisterSandman]
#18741919 - 08/22/13 11:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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He just wants to get out of hard labor by claiming he's a girl. The Army will make sure this scumbag gets every single thing that's coming to him.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Constantine] 2
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Constantine said: How are they fucked in the head ? Please next time keep your shitty opinion to yourself. I also think it's weird and I'd never do it, because I don't want to, but it's no reason to say they're fucked in the head, and it's none of my business what people choose to do.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: unknown1123] 3
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It's been public knowledge that Bradley Manning has wanted to be Chelsea for a very long time. It's not a made up ploy to help him get out of prison. I'm surprised by how many people are surprised by this. Seems like you weren't paying attention to the situation very well.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: unknown1123] 1
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His sex change should go over great for that 35 years he's spending in prison. I'm sure he'll be queen of the weight room prom every year.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Constantine] 2
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It's certainly abnormal to identify as, or wish to be, another gender. In less eloquent terms, you could say that would make one "fucked in the head". Perhaps the choice of words just offends your delicate sensibilities, but I don't see it as meant to be blatantly offensive.
Then again, I daresay I'm the last person you would ask for clarification on matters of tactfulness and sensitivity.
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People in history class 50-100 years from now are going to be reading some funny shit.
Patriot pvt manning leaks classified data and then renounces himself as a woman. Eric Snowden, leaks classified data and flees from supposedly the most free country to the one that's supposedly one of the least free..
Or they'll prob just emit it all and say the USA was the best country ever and still is today
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Na not really. Just find it funny that it comes out on major news outlets now that he's been sentenced.
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unknown1123 said: People in history class 50-100 years from now are going to be reading some funny shit.
Patriot pvt manning leaks classified data and then renounces pronounces himself as a woman. Eric Snowden, leaks classified data and flees from supposedly the most free country to the one that's supposedly one of the least free..
Or they'll prob just emit omit it all and say the USA was the best country ever and still is today
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Gumby]
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Gumby said: His sex change should go over great for that 35 years he's spending in prison. I'm sure he'll be queen of the weight room prom every year.
He can get out in 7 if they grant him parole, we shall see if that happens or not though. I personally think he should just kill himself.
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That would save him a good few years of grief.
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Constantine said: How are they fucked in the head ? Please next time keep your shitty opinion to yourself. I also think it's weird and I'd never do it, because I don't want to, but it's no reason to say they're fucked in the head, and it's none of my business what people choose to do.
please take your own advice... No one wants to read your shitty opinion 
Except my opinion isn't hurting anyone. It's thanks to people like you who think transsexuals are " fucked in the head " that we have things like the Russian law on " homosexual propaganda ".
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That seems ever so slightly extreme. I don't think his opinion has hurt anything besides your feelings, apparently. I'm curious how you make that connection. Or are you just all upset now?
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: mpd]
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I wonder how long Manning wanted to be a female, if it was something he struggled with his whole life or if it only surfaced recently. I'm sure being put into a submissive lifestyle because of his actions didn't help.
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psi said: A few people on here identify similarly.
Yeah those same people come across as very masculine when they talk about females being attractive and what not, it seriously confuses the shit out of me. It makes me think "Are you becoming a female and then becoming a lesbian too?" Like Garrison from South Park or something. This is in no way meant to flame, I just don't understand people who want to be the opposite gender yet go on about finding females attractive.
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mpd said: He just wants to get out of hard labor by claiming he's a girl. The Army will make sure this scumbag gets every single thing that's coming to him.
Yeah, real scumbag for informing the American people of war crimes and torture. 
He will be hailed as a hero in the history books, along with Snowden.
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Everlong said: He will be hailed as a hero in the history books, along with Snowden.
Depends who writes them. I have a feeling things will only get worse in the years to come.
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Everlong said: I wonder how long Manning wanted to be a female, if it was something he struggled with his whole life or if it only surfaced recently. I'm sure being put into a submissive lifestyle because of his actions didn't help.
It's been a lifelong thing. Everyone who is interested in the subject (meaning the case, not necessarily Manning's personal life though it does go into this issue and how it affected him while he was serving) should watch We Steal Secrets: The Story of WikiLeaks. It's a great documentary that's mostly free of bias.
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Yeah those same people come across as very masculine when they talk about females being attractive and what not, it seriously confuses the shit out of me. It makes me think "Are you becoming a female and then becoming a lesbian too?" Like Garrison from South Park or something. This is in no way meant to flame, I just don't understand people who want to be the opposite gender yet go on about finding females attractive.
I understand why that could be confusing, but gender identity doesn't really have much to do with sexual attraction outside of socialization. You can be attracted to any gender no matter what your own personal gender is. 
This is a pretty good infographic that shows how complex sexual/gender identity is:
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unknown1123 said: People in history class 50-100 years from now are going to be reading some funny shit.
Patriot pvt manning leaks classified data and then renounces pronounces himself as a woman. Eric Snowden, leaks classified data and flees from supposedly the most free country to the one that's supposedly one of the least free..
Or they'll prob just emit omit it all and say the USA was the best country ever and still is today
ur doin it wrong.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Everlong]
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psi said: A few people on here identify similarly.
Yeah those same people come across as very masculine when they talk about females being attractive and what not, it seriously confuses the shit out of me. It makes me think "Are you becoming a female and then becoming a lesbian too?" Like Garrison from South Park or something. This is in no way meant to flame, I just don't understand people who want to be the opposite gender yet go on about finding females attractive.
The explanation I heard was that the self-identity thing is not itself directly tied to sexual feelings. I found it confusing as well though, before the situation was explained I had always assumed that people were using the opposite gender icon as a joke or whatever.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: psi]
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: psi]
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psi said: A few people on here identify similarly.
Yeah those same people come across as very masculine when they talk about females being attractive and what not, it seriously confuses the shit out of me. It makes me think "Are you becoming a female and then becoming a lesbian too?" Like Garrison from South Park or something. This is in no way meant to flame, I just don't understand people who want to be the opposite gender yet go on about finding females attractive.
The explanation I heard was that the self-identity thing is not itself directly tied to sexual feelings. I found it confusing as well though, before the situation was explained I had always assumed that people were using the opposite gender icon as a joke or whatever.
I see. I saw the chart Joie posted as well.
Look, I'm not trying to start a debate but like I said I don't understand people who want to change their gender to female going on about how sexy women are. It just reminds me of Mr. Garrison from South Park, he became a female, only to hate men and be a lesbian. It doesn't help we are on a drug website and people are loaded on mind altering chemicals.
Then again I have a hard time connecting to the general idea of transgender at all, because I've never experienced those feelings.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Herbologist]
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Soooo, now he's demanding that the military provide him with hormone therapy and sexual reassignment surgery?
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Everlong said: I wonder how long Manning wanted to be a female, if it was something he struggled with his whole life or if it only surfaced recently. I'm sure being put into a submissive lifestyle because of his actions didn't help.
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psi said: A few people on here identify similarly.
Yeah those same people come across as very masculine when they talk about females being attractive and what not, it seriously confuses the shit out of me. It makes me think "Are you becoming a female and then becoming a lesbian too?" Like Garrison from South Park or something. This is in no way meant to flame, I just don't understand people who want to be the opposite gender yet go on about finding females attractive.
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mpd said: He just wants to get out of hard labor by claiming he's a girl. The Army will make sure this scumbag gets every single thing that's coming to him.
Yeah, real scumbag for informing the American people of war crimes and torture. 
He will be hailed as a hero in the history books, along with Snowden.
I doubt it.
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psi said: A few people on here identify similarly.
Yeah those same people come across as very masculine when they talk about females being attractive and what not, it seriously confuses the shit out of me. It makes me think "Are you becoming a female and then becoming a lesbian too?" Like Garrison from South Park or something. This is in no way meant to flame, I just don't understand people who want to be the opposite gender yet go on about finding females attractive.
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mpd said: He just wants to get out of hard labor by claiming he's a girl. The Army will make sure this scumbag gets every single thing that's coming to him.
Yeah, real scumbag for informing the American people of war crimes and torture. 
He will be hailed as a hero in the history books, along with Snowden.
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psi said: A few people on here identify similarly.
Yeah those same people come across as very masculine when they talk about females being attractive and what not, it seriously confuses the shit out of me. It makes me think "Are you becoming a female and then becoming a lesbian too?" Like Garrison from South Park or something. This is in no way meant to flame, I just don't understand people who want to be the opposite gender yet go on about finding females attractive.
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mpd said: He just wants to get out of hard labor by claiming he's a girl. The Army will make sure this scumbag gets every single thing that's coming to him.
Yeah, real scumbag for informing the American people of war crimes and torture. 
He will be hailed as a hero in the history books, along with Snowden.
I doubt it.
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So maybe you should ask them what it's like instead of assuming you know what's going on in another human being's mind.
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Then again I have a hard time connecting to the general idea of transgender at all, because I've never experienced those feelings.
Yeah I don't "get it" personally either (especially the surgery thing,) but to each their own.
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Whatever people want to do is fine with me, but when they start asking for special shit it just gets annoying. Manning demanding that the military jailers provide him with hormore replacement therapy??~~> Get the fuck out of here.
Portland(?) having to spend thousands for transexual bathrooms?
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The fuck is a transsexual bathroom? A sit down urinal is a toilet last time I heard.
It's just trendy to be in the middle these days. They think that because it is becoming more and more accepting to be transsexual, they are entitled somehow.
I like the shotgun'ness of this thread hah
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Niffla]
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Niffla said: Bradley be trollin
That was my first thought as well tbh ha ha
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: unknown1123]
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Like it matters one way or the other, you're either peeping over the fucking barrier and subject to arrest, or you're just doing your thing, jerking off a few times to the smell of someone else's farts and leaving like a regular person, na'mean?
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
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I keep asking all these people who are applauding Manning who elected him to decide what is and is not a secret? Also whether 700,000 documents was a bit much? If you want to put retards in charge of deciding state secrets you're fucking nuts and Manning most definitely is a retard.
I found this study on sexual identity fascinating and informative.
http://www.shb-info.org/sexbrain.html
During the intrauterine period the fetal brain develops in the male direction through a direct action of testosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hormone surge. In this way, our gender identity (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) is programmed into our brain structures when we are still in the womb. However, since sexual differentiation of the genitals takes place in the first two months of pregnancy and sexual differentiation of the brain starts in the second half of pregnancy, these two processes can be influenced independently, which may result in transsexualism. This also means that in the event of ambiguous sex at birth, the degree of masculinization of the genitals may not reflect the degree of masculinization of the brain.
There is no proof that social environment after birth has an effect on gender identity.
The brain and the body develop gender at different times
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: zappaisgod]
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He, like Snowden, could've compiled the shit about spying and been like, "TA-DA, motherfuckers." That's not what they did.
The NSA shit is just red herring...it's the 699,995 other files that worry me.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said: I keep asking all these people who are applauding Manning who elected him to decide what is and is not a secret? Also whether 700,000 documents was a bit much? If you want to put retards in charge of deciding state secrets you're fucking nuts and Manning most definitely is a retard.
I found this study on sexual identity fascinating and informative.
http://www.shb-info.org/sexbrain.html
During the intrauterine period the fetal brain develops in the male direction through a direct action of testosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hormone surge. In this way, our gender identity (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) is programmed into our brain structures when we are still in the womb. However, since sexual differentiation of the genitals takes place in the first two months of pregnancy and sexual differentiation of the brain starts in the second half of pregnancy, these two processes can be influenced independently, which may result in transsexualism. This also means that in the event of ambiguous sex at birth, the degree of masculinization of the genitals may not reflect the degree of masculinization of the brain.
There is no proof that social environment after birth has an effect on gender identity.
The brain and the body develop gender at different times
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Lynnch]
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Lynnch said: We'll see.
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Everlong said: I don't understand people who want to change their gender to female... ...Then again I have a hard time connecting to the general idea of transgender at all, because I've never experienced those feelings.
So maybe you should ask them what it's like instead of assuming you know what's going on in another human being's mind.
What a hypocritical response.
Please go ahead and tell me what assumptions I have made? Everything I said was based off actual observations.
To everyone who disagrees with me and thinks Manning and Snowden will be look at as traitors: We will see. I don't think I'm wrong.
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The Justice system already looks at them as traitors and I would seriously doubt that your small circle of friends is remotely representative of American opinion.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said: The Justice system already looks at them as traitors and I would seriously doubt that your small circle of friends is remotely representative of American opinion.
And the Justice system found Zimmerman to be innocent yet half the country is full of morons who think he was guilty. What's your point again?
This has nothing to do with "my small circle of friends" (Hell I haven't even discussed it with any), there is definitely a divide in this country on the whistleblower issue.
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zappaisgod said: ...There is no proof that social environment after birth has an effect on gender identity.
The brain and the body develop gender at different times
Quite facinating
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I frame the question differently, At what point does personal responsibility overcome professional duty? You're telling me that if you found out your boss had been torturing people and covering up the killing of innocents, you would just bite your tongue, look the other way, and be able to live with yourself? People blindly following orders and doing their duty is how the holocaust happened.
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Don't be so defensive, I was speaking generally. You were basing what you said on a southpark episode.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Lynnch] 1
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Moral of this story- Don't brag to fucktards on the internet about illegal shit you've done, especially shit that could potentially get whoever you are bragging to arrested. He shot himself in the foot, and now he's paying for it. If one of those documents he leaked without reading ended up getting a bunch of people killed we would be having a different conversation, and what he did was noble it could have ended a lot worse. He didn't know what the fuck he was sharing, he sure as fuck didn't read all of those documents before leaking them.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: unknown1123]
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Bradley Manning, the US soldier who leaked secret US government documents to the Wikileaks website, has announced he wants to live as a woman.
"I am Chelsea Manning," Pte First Class Manning, 25, said in a statement to NBC's Today programme. "I am a female."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23798253
What's up with all these people claiming they want to be women, is this a trend to keep shit alive in the media? What in the actual fuck, who gives a flying fuck if you're fucked up in the head and want to be a woman, be a bitch with a dick, who cares. That should be some personal shit, not something to be used to get a edge or front page story..

Where are the women getting in trouble that say they always wanted to be a man? That'd be something new
Manning was a transexual before being arrested or committing the deed, this wins the award of "most ignorant thread of the day"
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And the Justice system found Zimmerman to be innocent yet half the country is full of morons who think he was guilty. What's your point again?
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This has nothing to do with "my small circle of friends" (Hell I haven't even discussed it with any), there is definitely a divide in this country on the whistleblower issue.
There is a divide in this country on everything.
You still refuse to answer the questions. Who elected Manning to determine what is and is not a state secret and wasn't a data dump a bit much?
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Lynnch]
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The brain and the body develop gender at different times
Quite facinating
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I frame the question differently, At what point does personal responsibility overcome professional duty? You're telling me that if you found out your boss had been torturing people and covering up the killing of innocents, you would just bite your tongue, look the other way, and be able to live with yourself? People blindly following orders and doing their duty is how the holocaust happened.
What? Collateral Murder was a fraud and nothing else he exposed was worth any outrage value except from the professionally outraged. Any torture issues had already been dealt with. I ask again, do you want unelected retards determining what is or is not a state secret?
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: unknown1123]
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I'm all for whatever life choices you decide to make but not at the expense of others. It's just like welfare IMO. Some only want it bc they know it can be given to them. I'd rather they release him on 35 yrs probation than have taxpayers pay for the op.
Read it on CNN in between classes lol. Quite interesting but couldn't exactly bring it up in class.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: zappaisgod]
#18742426 - 08/22/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nobody cares, my rents got 2200 jacked from them the other day and they have to spend a whole day at the hoosegow for the cops to do anything about it.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said: What? Collateral Murder was a fraud and nothing else he exposed was worth any outrage value except from the professionally outraged.
So then what's the big deal?.. He thought he found something, and gave them to a news source he thought could do something about it. He wasn't selling secrets to the Russians. His intent was to serve his country in a greater way.
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Funny joke, best I've heard all day.
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zappaisgod said: I ask again, do you want unelected retards determining what is or is not a state secret?
Should we elect a retard to share state secrets with us?  If a soldier were to find proof of widespread lawbreaking, abuse, or war crimes, would you want him to turn a blind eye to it, do his governmental job, and condone those crimes? Or would you want him to stand up and do his greater duty to the people he serves and say something?
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Lynnch]
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zappaisgod said: I ask again, do you want unelected retards determining what is or is not a state secret?
Should we elect a retard to share state secrets with us?  If a soldier were to find proof of widespread lawbreaking, abuse, or war crimes, would you want him to turn a blind eye to it, do his governmental job, and condone those crimes? Or would you want him to stand up and do his greater duty to the people he serves and say something?
There's some room between shutting up and doing wrong stuff and dumping the entire contents of a hard drive filled with classified communication. He could have been more selective, for example. Then again, he was/is a young (and obviously confused) kid. Either way, not a very smart move. I don't see why (s)he's incensed by some.
Concerning the issue what gender he feels: let the kid be confused. It's just the media hyping an old story because they couldn't find anything better. Such a non-issue.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Lynnch]
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zappaisgod said: What? Collateral Murder was a fraud and nothing else he exposed was worth any outrage value except from the professionally outraged.
So then what's the big deal?.. He thought he found something, and gave them to a news source he thought could do something about it. He wasn't selling secrets to the Russians. His intent was to serve his country in a greater way.
How was exposing hundreds of thousands of embarrassing diplomat assessments and the names of collaborators serving the country?Quote:
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Funny joke, best I've heard all day.
What alleged torture did he expose? Abu Graib and waterboarding were long discussed.Quote:
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zappaisgod said: I ask again, do you want unelected retards determining what is or is not a state secret?
Should we elect a retard to share state secrets with us?  If a soldier were to find proof of widespread lawbreaking, abuse, or war crimes, would you want him to turn a blind eye to it, do his governmental job, and condone those crimes? Or would you want him to stand up and do his greater duty to the people he serves and say something?
There are channels for that but that isn't what he did. He made a massive data dump of shit he didn't even look at. You still can't answer my question. Yes or no, should an unelected retard be the determiner of what is or isn't a state secret?
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said: The Justice system already looks at them as traitors and I would seriously doubt that your small circle of friends is remotely representative of American opinion.
^^ What he said. 'Stickin it to the man' is to be expected when you're young and haven't left the country yet. Wait until your first trip abroad...
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I was a democrat, went to Canada and came back a racist republican....
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: unknown1123]
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The actual plan with this move - is to use his 'gender confusion' as an excuse for his lack of judgement - similar to an insanity plead
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: twighead]
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I was a FNB's democrat, saw Obama's record of not doing shit...and now have very little faith in either party. Not a libertarian, but a small government Liberal... Oh yeah, Chelsea is now demanding the military provide him with hormone therapy, and possibly a sex change. the hell. man?
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sVs said: It's certainly abnormal to identify as, or wish to be, another gender. In less eloquent terms, you could say that would make one "fucked in the head". Perhaps the choice of words just offends your delicate sensibilities, but I don't see it as meant to be blatantly offensive.
Then again, I daresay I'm the last person you would ask for clarification on matters of tactfulness and sensitivity.
Well, fucked in the head doesn't mean abnormal, it means something is wrong. If anything s/he's fine in the head but fucked in the body considering she got the wrong one.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: twighead]
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Impossible he's on record with the transgendered thing before committing the deed he's in jail for
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Repertoire89]
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Plus the trial is over.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: jewunit]
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The hormone thing is odd.
If he were on pills before trial, denying his pills would kill him... slowly, because a human body needs hormones, either estrogen or testosterone. By going on estrogen, a trans-person would also take testosterone blockers, which, within a year, would stop a man's body from creating the proper hormones. He would require either testosterone or estrogen to survive.
If he had begun his transition Pre-trial, the military would be negligent in his care. He did not. Of course though, they do not offer it. Not yet. So if he had...
So, his desire to transition in prison is a new case. Honestly, for a trans-person, hormones are the best cure. He doesn't even need his dick chopped off. He just needs girl hormones to feed his girl brain. His depression and his need to do what he did, will not be cured otherwise.
What he did was against the law. It was also, helpful. It brought crimes to light.
Us trans-folk tend to be that way. We committ a slow suicide. We tell the truth. We are depressed from birth.
Why not spill the beans while we die?
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We are depressed from birth.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Rose]
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Why not spill the beans while we die?
Why not fuck the world as we die?
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
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Why not puppet?
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Why not make sense?
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
#18745259 - 08/23/13 01:04 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Destroy all rational thought.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: TYL3R]
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Was looking for something to do on a Friday morning.....might as well paint some words on a board and go downtown to protest while frying, got nothing better to do....
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: phxBoomer]
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I sure as hell hope taxpayer money is being used for his hormone treatment or to get his dick cut off.
Otherwise dude has been through some really traumatic shit and has probably lost his mind. If calling himself a girl helps him cope with what hes been through good for him.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: elax420]
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Poor little thing. I do hope he hasn't been inconvenienced in any way.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: unknown1123]
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tits or gtfo?
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hahahaha, its happened before. my friend was like "oh yeah my dog is really friendly dont' worry" dog starts barking at me and i get all scared and turn aruond. dog starts biting my ass (huge dog) and i just like meekly yell "help" like 4-5 times.
My friend was like "oh sorry he probably saw a squirrel and got excited"
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: teamkiller]
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Same happened to me. Kinda hard not to run when a big ass dog is haulin balls straight for you... I dove for the fence but that german shepard got me right in the quad.
Had to have the dog quarantined for rabies and shit. The end of that friendship...
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Had to have the dog quarantined for rabies and shit. The end of that friendship...
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Nope.
It was found to be okay. His parents were kinda pissed to have to pay for the thing though. They wanted us to just trust them that even though the dog didn't have shots, he was still okay.
This was centuries ago...
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"US military prosecutors, meanwhile, described Pte Manning as a notoriety-seeking traitor and asked for a 60-year sentence in order to deter future intelligence leakers."
60 fucking years really. I'm surprised this guy didn't pull a Budd Dwyer
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How could he when he's naked in a cell? I think he was on suicide watch all the same, right?
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Impossible he's on record with the transgendered thing before committing the deed he's in jail for
Right - which is what makes it possible. This is just a reinforcing move.
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I don't have any such faith. Nor in the electorate. But they are what we have. Some freakshow idiot private is certainly no reasonable candidate to be the policy determiner on secrets. Neither are you.
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People's blind faith that America is this Evil Empire is astounding.
Some people have no fucking clue how good they have it. We should promote AmeriCorp more. get these little punks off to Guatamala and Haiti so they and Russia can see what the alternative is, and also do some good for the world.
Russia and China are supporting the gassing of little CHILDREN. But people would rather focus on tiny, piddlyass'd shit that America does wrong. As hundreds nd thousands of files that no one knows what they are are handed over to Russia (who kills record number of journos) and China who support the gassing of twitching, foaming children.
And Russia / China block any attempt to correct this. Even the US looked into war crimes commited by own troops.
People make me so mad sometimes.
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I don't have any such faith. Nor in the electorate. But they are what we have. Some freakshow idiot private is certainly no reasonable candidate to be the policy determiner on secrets. Neither are you.
Teach on, Zappaisgod! These kids need a mental spankin!
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What is an army person doing getting a sex change. Doesn't that cost money? I thought we sent all the little poor kids with no future to the army to get shot.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: unknown1123]
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I sort of agree with OP, I don't know why he had to announce it to the media, especially at such an awkward time.
But why do you say he is "fucked in the head" OP? The dude wants to be a chick, so what?
Sorry, I guess I haven't reached the stage of enlightenment when you look down at your dick and say damn I want to be a woman and call it normal...
I don't think anybody claimed it's "enlightened" to be transgender, nor is it normal. Honestly it's a curse, more like a neurological disorder; most of its sufferers are mentally scarred by the ordeal (as Manning clearly was, torture by the military notwithstanding), and the difficulty and cost of obtaining treatment is a cruelty.
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Who the hell is giving plus' to everyone all these comments I've read are meaningless drivel...
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Manning actually said she joined the military in an attempt to put her gender dysphoria out of sight and out of mind. All too often we trick ourselves into thinking we can run away from it, but that seems pretty typically to make it even more painful.
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sup man, have you met Zappa yet?

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Either way wanting to be something other than what you are is fucked. To put it bluntly.
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I guess I don't know that much about it, but I know I sure as fuck would have done it.
Fortunately for you you will be able to avoid a 35 year sentence because the screeners will be far more vigilant against people who think they should rule the world without being elected or triumphing in battle. So sad.
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Either way wanting to be something other than what you are is fucked. To put it bluntly.
It really is, though I'm not sure we mean that in the same way.
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BlindSophist said: Manning actually said she joined the military in an attempt to put her gender dysphoria out of sight and out of mind. All too often we trick ourselves into thinking we can run away from it, but that seems pretty typically to make it even more painful.
Either way wanting to be something other than what you are is fucked. To put it bluntly.
Then damn near every single human is fucked.
Wanting to be manager, or CEO, or a parent, or not a junkie, or a house owner, or a better person or a rock star, or a ball player... etc. everybody wants to be something they haven't yet been.
Being born with a mental gender that disagrees with a physical sexual characteristics happens in the womb. It is rare, but it is not fucked. It is simply life. Just like being born left handed or gay or Republican...
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I sort of agree with OP, I don't know why he had to announce it to the media, especially at such an awkward time.
But why do you say he is "fucked in the head" OP? The dude wants to be a chick, so what?
Sorry, I guess I haven't reached the stage of enlightenment when you look down at your dick and say damn I want to be a woman and call it normal...
I don't think anybody claimed it's "enlightened" to be transgender, nor is it normal. Honestly it's a curse, more like a neurological disorder; most of its sufferers are mentally scarred by the ordeal (as Manning clearly was, torture by the military notwithstanding), and the difficulty and cost of obtaining treatment is a cruelty.
God I wish just one time I could log on and read the replies to my thread and not lose IQ points! All I ask is ONE FUCKING TIME.
Look at the mods in this thread
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Either way wanting to be something other than what you are is fucked. To put it bluntly.
It really is, though I'm not sure we mean that in the same way.
I dont mean it in a negative way. Its just a strange disconnect between what you really are and what you think you are.
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Either way wanting to be something other than what you are is fucked. To put it bluntly.
It really is, though I'm not sure we mean that in the same way.
I dont mean it in a negative way. Its just a strange disconnect between what you really are and what you think you are.
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Who doesn't aspire to do something else?
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Rose] 2
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Occupation and social standing is slightly different then gender orientation.
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Do we medicate prisoners?
I only ask, because everybody saying Manning expects the Govt. to pay for surgery is guilty of conjecture. That has not been said by Manning's legal team.
Manning's lawyer is asking for a $20 per month prescription.
So again, do we or do we not medicate our prisoners?
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Rose] 2
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Whatever dude it's still a problem and it was brought up because of this case.
Some people don't want cancer. Some people want to blame lifes probelms on not mutilating their genitals. Crazy.
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Genitals have not been brought into this case. Not legally. Only by armchair lawyers like yourself.
Manning's team is asking for a medical prescription.
Do we or do we not medicate our prisoners?
You mentioned cancer. Do we treat prisoners with cancer?
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Look at the mods in this thread 
Maybe if you stopped logging on, the problem would be solved? Just a thought.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Rose] 1
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Cervantes said: Genitals have not been brought into this case. Not legally. Only by armchair lawyers like yourself.
Manning's team is asking for a medical prescription.
Do we or do we not medicate our prisoners?
You mentioned cancer. Do we treat prisoners with cancer?
What kind of medication? If its hormone treatments they're completely unnecessary. I guess he'll just have to learn how to deal with the fact that he is in fact a man and not a woman.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Another who refuses to answer my simple question.
Do we or do we not medicate our prisoners?
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Rose]
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: volcomstoner]
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I guess I don't know that much about it, but I know I sure as fuck would have done it.
Easy to say online. Oddly enough, when your backs against the wall, offing yourself is much less appealing than youd think. The will to survive, even in dire conditions, is strong. I know a little bit about this.
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40-something percent of trans folk attempt suicide. Closer to 50. I could round up.
That is compared to the 1.something percent of the general population. Which includes trans-people... So...
Do we not medicate clinically depressed prisoners?
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Rose]
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Konyap]
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Is that how our prisons work?
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Rose]
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Cervantes said: 40-something percent of trans folk attempt suicide. Closer to 50. I could round up.
That is compared to the 1.something percent of the general population. Which includes trans-people... So...
Do we not medicate clinically depressed prisoners?
I think the burden of proof is on you. When I was locked up they didn't do shit for me. Broken leg and my cast/leg was rotting...
A sex change / hormone therapy is not required. Your insistence that it should be show, to me, how far outside the loop you are.
Then again, I don't have the appeal of a Transexualhero. "LOL, I'm gay so I need special stuff."
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
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You calling trans gay?
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Rose]
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You avoiding the point?
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Rose]
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Also, welcome n00b. You make good posts.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Rose]
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
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he wants to go to a federal so he can get meds
he's in a military prison
if he goes fed people are worried he's going to get his dick tied inside out then we won't have anywhere to put him because he'll be a completely different person.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Rose]
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LOL, no.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
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Exactly.
A prescription was requested.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Rose]
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Well, that changes everything.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: unknown1123]
#18749756 - 08/24/13 12:18 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Chelsea Manning is an American hero.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Smokey420]
#18749767 - 08/24/13 12:21 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thus spoke Smokey420.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
#18749784 - 08/24/13 12:26 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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This story just keeps getting stupider and stupider.
How fucking dumb is our government to let crazy loser get ahold of that sensitive of information?
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: elax420] 1
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How stupid are thousands of Americans who call this 5'2" freakshow an 'American hero'?

If he was concerned about NSA spying, he could've just selected the files pertaining to that and presented them. Hemorrhaging 700,000 files of classified material to third parties is not the way become a 'hero' in my book. .
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam] 4
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OldHam said: How stupid are thousands of Americans who call this 5'2" freakshow an 'American hero'?

If he was concerned about NSA spying, he could've just selected the files pertaining to that and presented them. Hemorrhaging 700,000 files of classified material to third parties is not the way become a 'hero' in my book. .
Bradley Manning mainly leaked information about war crimes. I believe you are thinking of Edward Snowden who leaked information from the NSA.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: LoveYourLife]
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I believe you have it reversed. I think I read that Snowden actually looked through his files whereas Manning just spewed a treasure trove of things he never even read, to Wikileaks, and they've dribbled out a little here and a little there, but never made clear what the whole 700k contained. I don't think anyone knows the extent of what was leaked. The US gov't sure as shit isn't going to call attention to it...I could be wrong.
Still, I guess people just don't see the same thing I do when they look at Russia and China and the US's dwindling power. How anyone can see this as a good think globally is totally beyond me. Like so much else.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
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OldHam said: I believe you have it reversed. I think I read that Snowden actually looked through his files whereas Manning just spewed 700,000 (I think is the number bandied about) ... I don't think anyone knows the extent of what was leaked. The US gov't sure as shit isn't going to call attention to it...
I could be wrong. Still, I guess people just don't see the same thing I do when they look at Russia and China and the US's dwindling power. How anyone can see this as a good think globally is totally beyond me. Like so much else. 
I never said anything about sorting through the files. I simply said Snowden was the one who released the NSA information. Bradley Manning released mainly information about war crimes in Afghanistan. I'm positive about that.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: LoveYourLife]
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Well, I think you're wrong.  Manning didn't release anything, if you want to get technical about it.
Read my edited post, maybe it makes more sense than the 1st draft.
You assume that what 3rd parties have published, is all they have. Is all they've shared. Not that hard to understand what I'm saying, if you stop and breath and think a little.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
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OldHam said: Well, I think you're wrong.  Manning didn't release anything, if you want to get technical about it.
Read my edited post, maybe it makes more sense than the 1st draft.
You assume that what 3rd parties have published, is all they have. Is all they've shared. Not that hard to understand what I'm saying, if you stop and breath and think a little.
I get what you're saying. But, Snowden was the NSA contractor. Manning was in Army Intelligence. Not too difficult to see the difference in information they would have
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: LoveYourLife]
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I just don't understand why you're responding to me, but bringing up seemingly unrelated issues and expecting me to answer for them. What am I missing here? 
All I'm saying, and again I could be wrong, is that if you want to be a whistle blower because you see specific things you think should be brought to light, fine. Good. But leaking 700,000+ documents for the hell of it, that you haven't even read...to third parties you really don't know...seems dangerous. Doesn't seem like a well balanced, logical decision to me.
"I'm suicidal, why not take the world down with me?" I mean, what the hell? That's not right. That's not 'heroic'.
And, doesn't seem like the sort of thing people should be clasping their hands and waving them triumphantly over their heads about...if that makes any sense.
Know what I mean? An 'American hero'?

Snowden is a whole other story. But I think he fucked up, too. Frankly.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam] 1
#18750138 - 08/24/13 03:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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OldHam said: How stupid are thousands of Americans who call this 5'2" freakshow an 'American hero'?

If he was concerned about NSA spying, he could've just selected the files pertaining to that and presented them. Hemorrhaging 700,000 files of classified material to third parties is not the way become a 'hero' in my book. .
Oh believe me i agree with ya on this one mate.
Hes lucky he didn't get the noose, like he should have. They also need to drop the "private first class" part of his title, its a mockery to any loyal service member. Its not necessarily the info he leaked that rustles my jimmies, its the complete disregard for for his fellow soldiers safety he showed by doing that. Thats what makes me not have any sympathy towards this dude, whereas i kinda feel for snowden.
Still though WTF is wrong with our government to let a mere private, not to mention the clear mental illness the guy has, access that kinda shit. I thought they had screening practices for that crap
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: elax420]
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Long story short: You make a good point. They fucked up.
Doesn't excuse the trumpeting of this criminal as a hero, or the odd single minded focus on america's war crimes to the exclusion of Russia, China, etc etc. Hating America has become a very fashionable thing to do in some circles. You may or may not agree with that...
Seems like a global case of 'False Equivalency' or sumshit. Like the US is in any way as fucked up as Russia or China?
Boggles the mind...
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LoveYourLife said: Bradley Manning mainly leaked information about war crimes. I believe you are thinking of Edward Snowden who leaked information from the NSA.
I'm just now understanding what you were saying. Thank you for the correction.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
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The difference is though that Russia and China do not claim to be beacons of good or human rights. I mean you never hear the rhetoric from them that you hear from the US about spreading democracy and condemning civil rights abuses, and I think that is why its popular to america-bash because of the hypocrisy.
Don't get me wrong as an Irishman I can appreciate that if some serious shit went down around the world I'd much rather have America/Nato to defend the smaller countries than China or Russia sweep through europe ha ha. No I dont think this is gonna happen its just a point!
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: iarphairc]
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See, I just don't get that though. Do people watch state run Russian and Chinese tv? How do they know they aren't saying these things?
Do Irish politicians not talk shit about how awesome Ireland is? I thought all countries did that. I know for damn sure Britain does it...
Also, I feel like serious shit is going down, so... I appreciate Western Culture and Western Europe, actually wish we'd pull together a bit more not holding breath, but everywhere I go online I hear people, seemingly with a straight face, claim that US is the sole force of evil in the world today, which is bullshit. Even Americans say it.
Which is just disturbingly ignorant in my mind...
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
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Yeah,because like the afgan police action and iraq war were like bastions of freedom and liberty
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
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I know they obviously talk up their country BUT its not like they are saying "we are a beacon for democracy and civil rights and want to export that across the world". They're spewing regular propaganda :P
Ha ha ha they might try but literally all anyone says is how crap Ireland is so we don't buy into it :P We've been told the economy is recovering since '09 lol. I was gonna list all the other shit but I'd be here for quite a while :P
What serious shit in particular 'cos I may totally agree :P
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
#18753426 - 08/24/13 10:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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OldHam said: Long story short: You make a good point. They fucked up.
Doesn't excuse the trumpeting of this criminal as a hero, or the odd single minded focus on america's war crimes to the exclusion of Russia, China, etc etc. Hating America has become a very fashionable thing to do in some circles. You may or may not agree with that...
Seems like a global case of 'False Equivalency' or sumshit. Like the US is in any way as fucked up as Russia or China?
Boggles the mind...
I dont hate america in the slightest, I actually love it. Our government is a fucking joke at the moment though and you would have to be blind to think otherwise.
Every country has its own unique problems, fuck this Cold war mentality everyone is getting thrown into at the moment though.
after all why cant we be friends
about state run TV: Do you watch american TV its pretty fucking abysmal as well 
You got it wrong though man, israel/zionism and its boundless tentacles are the sole force of evil
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: elax420]
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Why do you think evil has a definitive "root"? Evil ensconces itself wherever it can, and there are a staggering number of niches in which it can thrive.
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Why so smug? Almost everyone is going to have a different view on Religion and Ethics, that just happens to be mine. Maybe my view is right, maybe yours is, maybe we are both full of shit
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: elax420]
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This thread suffers from: Moral Relativism. And False Equivalency.
Sorry, Russia and China are not on the same level, whatsoever, with the rest of the civilized world. And, the US is head and shoulders more civilized than either. Google: Russia's Dead Journalists. That's not Cold War propaganda, that's currently going on today. China is quiet but just as evil.
Your focus defines what seems larger or smaller, focusing every leak on the US distorts the perspective, etc.
But whatever, people seem to get philosophical as children are killed, or gassed and lobotomized & foaming through their nose. "All countries are equally fucked up!"
"Fuck America!LOL"
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
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tl:dr American Empire is less evil
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
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I think it's funny that you think I disagree with you.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Konyap]
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
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OldHam said: This thread suffers from: Moral Relativism. And False Equivalency.
Sorry, Russia and China are not on the same level, whatsoever, with the rest of the civilized world. And, the US is head and shoulders more civilized than either. Google: Russia's Dead Journalists. That's not Cold War propaganda, that's currently going on today. China is quiet but just as evil.
Your focus defines what seems larger or smaller, focusing every leak on the US distorts the perspective, etc.
But whatever, people seem to get philosophical as children are killed, or gassed and lobotomized & foaming through their nose. "All countries are equally fucked up!"
"Fuck America!LOL" 
Okay Mr. Obama's Press Secretary What the fuck is "the rest of the civilized world" supposed to mean anyway? I knew you would bring this bullshit up right as you started talking about "western europe" You are spouting some bullshit, dare i say racist, notion of west and east constituted by some imaginary line on an imaginary continent.
care to so me where that line is?
Russia's dead journalists eh, i raise you one dead president

Wtf is up with that last paragraph? Not only are you implicating Russia and China standing idly by while children are killed, you are trying to implicate me. I guess yall found out gambling on WMDs isn't the best course of action, now its "think of the children". Ya lets arm al qaeda, and get involved in another place we have no business being, that couldn't go wrong in anyway
Lets talk about collateral damage in Iraq and Afghanistan then.
"America has never done anything wrong in its existence and truly is the shining city on a hill."  Who would have thought the Shroomery has so many war hawks, who dont even care about waiting for definitive evidence to support the case they are trying to make for war in the first place.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: elax420]
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elax420 said: Okay Mr. Obama's Press Secretary (...) Russia's dead journalists eh, i raise you one dead president
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Gibberish. Didn't realize I was speaking with that guy.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: elax420]
#18753984 - 08/25/13 03:27 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I said it the other day, "who the fuck is one upping all this nonsense drivel."
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
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Say's the guy who opts out of ratings.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Konyap]
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
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JFK was accidentally shot a third time by his own Secret Service man allegedly.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Konyap]
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Whoops!
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: OldHam]
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You're embarrassing, you're on a fucking website for magic mushrooms arguing that American history is devoid of any tragedy or corruption.
The fact still stands he was shot as you can't prove other wise
Also it goes to show, you have no idea what the whole wikiLeaks or current geo-political climate is like.
All in all you really should have stopped talking awhile ago, if you have something to prove go do something with your life rather then sit around on the computer trying to make comebacks at people, you sound like an attention starved 13 year old.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Konyap]
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My mom knows more about this then you, because unlike yourself she actually follows news. She doesn't get all her anecdotes from the Blaze's comments section.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Konyap]
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My bad I thought you were this ass
but you were still going off topic before and snowden had access to these files everyday
it's on the burden of courts to prove his guilt
also the whistleblower act or you know the 1st amendment should protect him
the 2nd amendment shows that what america and britain did in iraq following the invasion was in fact war crimes or at least world policing.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Konyap]
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Is that an actual JFK quote? If it is, that and michael hastings has my conspiracy bells ringing :P
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: iarphairc]
#18755465 - 08/25/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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iarphairc said: Is that an actual JFK quote? If it is, that and michael hastings has my conspiracy bells ringing :P
It says it was 7 days before he died so it should be easy to pinpoint where he said that but I don't know anyone who has found it. Someone made that quote up
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Repertoire89]
#18755530 - 08/25/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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If anything, he was talking about the Soviet Union.
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The rest of the world didn't like our government for sometime. They like our population, but they don't really like our goverment too much.
I'm pretty sure the same could be said about China, but russia
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Konyap]
#18760138 - 08/26/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol @ this thread
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#18781068 - 08/31/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Here: 
I got teh for this, cervantes is so sensitive.
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#18781092 - 08/31/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Weren't you supposed to be banned for another week or so?
Welcome back anyway
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: rulesq]
#18781121 - 08/31/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I got pull
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: unknown1123]
#18781198 - 08/31/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Transition in male military prison? fucking yikes! While I empathize with her gender dysphoria, it's headlines like this that keep general society polarized against trans people. It just reinforces the association of trans people and terrible things like leaking state secrets. Another one I hate seeing is absolutely non passing, attracted to females, middle aged, trans "women" caught using women's locker rooms/restrooms/spaces. Creeps me way out.
While I don't agree with what she did I think that she should be allowed HRT in prison should she want it, but I remember the military issuing a statement that she would not be given HRT or surgery while in prison. She is 25 which is pushing the upper limit of making a successful transition and without HRT she is pretty much screwed in the next couple years. She does look kind of feminine and short though, lol.
I think it's strange that she claims to have gender dysphoria but didn't drop from the army and deal with it when she could have. When you are seriously suffering from gender dysphoria uprooting your life and social contacts becomes no big deal. Anything to slow the ticking clock and dull the pain
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Re: Chelsea Manning: what in the actual fuck [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#18781337 - 08/31/13 01:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Quote:
Bodhi of Ankou said: Here: 
I got teh for this, cervantes is so sensitive.
Actually, I'm pretty sure you're just an asshole.
Feeling sensitive today?
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