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Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians.
    #18740914 - 08/22/13 04:51 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #18741094 - 08/22/13 07:20 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

the usual


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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #18741162 - 08/22/13 07:59 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

My bold and daring prediction is that we're going to get lied to about it


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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: viktor]
    #18741609 - 08/22/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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viktor said:
My bold and daring prediction is that we're going to get lied to about it



And possibly dragged into war because using chemical weapons is a serious war crime


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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: unknown1123]
    #18747730 - 08/23/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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And possibly dragged into war because using chemical weapons is a serious war crime




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My bold and daring prediction is that we're going to get lied to about it




We already have been lied to about it. Obama and the world community is now doing nothing more than setting the stage. The only deterrent thus far has been the Russians.

http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_07_13/227640920/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22424188

“Our experts took samples, examined them on the spot in laboratories that are certified by the Organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons, and came to the conclusion that the shell and sarin that was in it were homemade. There are quite clear and unambiguous conclusions concerning the fact that characteristics of both the shell and this very sarin do not meet the standards used in industrial production. According to our additional data, the shell and this substance were manufactured in February, 2013, in the Syrian territory, which was then under the control of the Syrian Free Army, by one of the groups, which was affiliated with this Syrian Free Army”.

Such information is not to everyone’s liking. And first of all not to those, who are at any cost interested in convincing the world of the opposite.

And there are plenty of them. For example, there are political and military lobbyists in some Western and Eastern countries that benefit from pushing through the decision to supply weapons to Syrian opposition. And this is not only a question of geopolitics, but also of finance.
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_07_13/227640920/

The FSA was caught red handed with sarin gas in Turkey already.

http://larouchepac.com/node/26795

Assad is not stupid, if he were to use sarin, he would have nothing to gain, and everything to lose.
If the FSA/rebels/activists/muslum radical douchebags financed by us were to use sarin they would have NOTHING to lose, and EVERYTHING to gain.

You tell me who is most likely to gas the Syrians.


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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: Therian]
    #18747883 - 08/23/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: unknown1123]
    #18748389 - 08/23/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I guess we've found the Iraqi chemical weapons NOW


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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: Therian]
    #18748898 - 08/23/13 08:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Therian said:
“Our experts took samples, examined them on the spot in laboratories that are certified by the Organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons, and came to the conclusion that the shell and sarin that was in it were homemade. There are quite clear and unambiguous conclusions concerning the fact that characteristics of both the shell and this very sarin do not meet the standards used in industrial production. According to our additional data, the shell and this substance were manufactured in February, 2013, in the Syrian territory, which was then under the control of the Syrian Free Army, by one of the groups, which was affiliated with this Syrian Free Army”.





LOL.  You realize that's a quote from the Russian foreign minister, right?


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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: ChuangTzu]
    #18749260 - 08/23/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

But why would Assad use chemical weapons when it means a required American involvement


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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: unknown1123]
    #18750400 - 08/24/13 07:43 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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But why would Assad use chemical weapons when it means a required American involvement




It doesn't.


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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: ChuangTzu]
    #18763058 - 08/27/13 09:33 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Russia, Syria and Iran all say that the rebels deployed chemical weapons, not Assad. Why would Assad gas his own civilians when he knew UN inspectors were in Damascus? It is an invitation for foreign intervention. The rebels are mostly foreign insurgents who have little to no connection to the Syrian people. Assad's government even has an amnesty program where 'rebels' (more like terrorists) can turn themselves in without penalty. Some of them are even fighting alongside the Syrian army now that they are aware they've been tricked.

The rebels were caught using chemical weapons a few months ago, but now we are preparing to attack Assad without complete evidence of who was behind the atrocity. If there is evidence why haven't any of us been privy to it? Why is the MSM ignoring the possibility that the rebels could be behind the chemical weapons attack, so they could blame it on Assad and force western intervention? They didn't cover the Britam security leak that mentioned a false flag attack, either.

I'm starting to think the talking heads are less informed than the average Joe, and not deliberately withholding the truth.


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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: SWEDEN]
    #18764185 - 08/27/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

All this does is provide a rationale for increased expansion of the military industrial complex. God forbid the US doesn't start bombing another middle eastern country. Syria is not the US's problem.


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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: qwerty51]
    #18764528 - 08/27/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm starting to think the talking heads are less informed than the average Joe, and not deliberately withholding the truth.




Perhaps the talking heads but certainly not their masters. Attacking Syria will lead to WW3, this is insane.


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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: SWEDEN]
    #18764748 - 08/27/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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SWEDEN said:
Russia, Syria and Iran all say that the rebels deployed chemical weapons, not Assad. Why would Assad gas his own civilians when he knew UN inspectors were in Damascus? It is an invitation for foreign intervention. The rebels are mostly foreign insurgents who have little to no connection to the Syrian people. Assad's government even has an amnesty program where 'rebels' (more like terrorists) can turn themselves in without penalty. Some of them are even fighting alongside the Syrian army now that they are aware they've been tricked.

The rebels were caught using chemical weapons a few months ago, but now we are preparing to attack Assad without complete evidence of who was behind the atrocity. If there is evidence why haven't any of us been privy to it? Why is the MSM ignoring the possibility that the rebels could be behind the chemical weapons attack, so they could blame it on Assad and force western intervention? They didn't cover the Britam security leak that mentioned a false flag attack, either.

I'm starting to think the talking heads are less informed than the average Joe, and not deliberately withholding the truth.




Link?


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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18765024 - 08/27/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The media talking heads work for "intelligence" agencies.  They are not journalists they are ministrts of propeganda.


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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: Shins] * 2
    #18765116 - 08/27/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Shins said:
The media talking heads work for "intelligence" agencies.  They are not journalists they are ministrts of propeganda.



Have another cocktail.  You'll pass out and stop embarrassing yourself in public.


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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18765198 - 08/27/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I don't drink and its plainly obvious.


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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: Shins]
    #18765210 - 08/27/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Sure you don't.


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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: SWEDEN]
    #18765996 - 08/27/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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SWEDEN said:
Russia, Syria and Iran all say that the rebels deployed chemical weapons, not Assad. Why would Assad gas his own civilians when he knew UN inspectors were in Damascus? It is an invitation for foreign intervention.




You're an idiot if you don't see how both sides can benefit from blaming the other for a chemical attack even if they themselves caused it for that purpose.

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The rebels are mostly foreign insurgents who have little to no connection to the Syrian people.




Back that up.

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Assad's government even has an amnesty program where 'rebels' (more like terrorists) can turn themselves in without penalty.




Back that up.

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Some of them are even fighting alongside the Syrian army now that they are aware they've been tricked.




Back that up.


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If there is evidence why haven't any of us been privy to it?




How the fuck would you be privy to anything going on in Syria?  The shit quality of information coming out of there rivals only North Korean propaganda.


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Re: Assads deployed Chemical weapons against civilians. [Re: ChuangTzu]
    #18766547 - 08/27/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Where is OldHam when you need an awful post?


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