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Re: Entities? [Re: K1ngSp4de]
    #18735855 - 08/21/13 04:57 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

yes, and a lot of my dmt trips i see things that i've seen before wether it was in my dream or real life and i sometimes see stuff that i used to inspire when i was young.


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Re: Entities? [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #18736471 - 08/21/13 08:56 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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The first time I took shrooms I'd heard that going into complete darkness was a cool thing to do on them so I went off to this out-of-the-way-room in the basement of the house.  I grabbed the door handle and a hand came and tried to drag me in.





Can you put a more detailed version of that?


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Re: Entities? [Re: s240779] * 1
    #18738281 - 08/21/13 03:52 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

When I grasped the doorknob, a dark, clawed hand came through the door, clasped my hand, and pulled at me.  It didn't feel like the entity was necessarily malevolent, but obviously it made me nervous.  I feel like there was some sort of secret knowledge or entity or something tied to that location, that room.  I was on my come-up, maybe like 45 minutes into the trip, a 4.5 gram dose.  I don't think there's any more details I can give about that, since I didn't go in.

This article from erowid just came out and is HIGHLY relevant to this thread - basically it's an answer to all the questions in the first post.  If you're at all interested in this thread I really suggest you read it:

Aliens, Insectoids, and Elves! Oh My!


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Re: Entities? [Re: zzripz]
    #18739021 - 08/21/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Dude if your not joking that shit is crazy you hadnt takein any drugs?


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Re: Entities? [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #18739081 - 08/21/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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It's most common on smoked DMT.  Ayahuasca is probably the second best way to do it, followed by a heroic dose of shrooms (adding in some syrian rue also helps) and then salvia.  When you go into amphetamine psychosis supposedly meeting up with the "shadow people" is pretty common.  Peyote-using native americans believe in an entity called Mescalito, who I've heard contains and consists of the entirety of the peyote headspace, all trips past and present and then some.

People almost never meet entities on acid.  The first time I did it I had the distinct impression that there were none there.  I did have one friend who met a beautiful flying woman while candy flipping though.  People don't meet them on RC's generally either.  Basically the more natural and traditional the drug is the more entities seem to populate it.  But of course not everyone meets them, even if they manage to trip hard enough.




I find with acid YOU are the entity you're searching for. I think it could be due to its chemical and synthetic nature it doesn't come with any inherent entities. But allows you to be your own.


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Re: Entities? [Re: Ras Rising] * 1
    #18739103 - 08/21/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Sometimes long messages in my head with no thoughts for hours
Not voices, sudden long sentences like being projected into me

Sometimes eyes everywhere in trips+messages
or entities a few times on LSD (looked human/alien), they talked telepatically, thought transfer

Usually first the eyes, then full faces, then full body entities

Got a description in my journal of some of it/the experience

The messages have always helped me greatly each time - always at the right time, or helped me help others often
Have learned from them each time

Some of them I'm still learning from, so they're not there yet, I don't see what they're about yet

I think it is good spirits trying to help, and sometimes after trips too
you will meet strangers coming to you to say just what you need to hear


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Re: Entities? [Re: lessismore] * 1
    #18739406 - 08/21/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

DMT- Blue dragon (8 grams MHRB tea with Rue + vaporized Bufotenine)

I saw a blue wavering line and zoomed out to show the brilliant blue body and head of the Dragon; which then turned to look at me.  I can't explain the feeling/information that was transferred but I felt privileged and in awe afterwards; quickly looked up the amazingly relevant symbolism of that specific creature and now tentatively feel like my back is covered by this friend/spirit animal.

Mushrooms - Curious ghost couple felt (GF saw them behind me - she was so scared she had trouble speaking of it till years later).  We were both on 3.5g, behind a rather rural (for CA) mountain town church at night.  There was also a helicopter which half-circled us and I felt empathetic/telepathic with; perhaps reading it's flight pattern and translating the meaning therefrom (no police would be visiting us).  I often do seem to conjure police/authority when tripping (for real); Like the army will call to interview for a friend or cops will shop up to serve some papers, etc... however it has always in a relatively positive manner however, blessedly.

An early mushroom trip (also 3.5g) I jumped up and declared to my friends that I would call in the insects and did a dance imagining I was a bug to attract them.  It worked beyond any doubt my friends were amazed and I as afraid and stopped; and we watched the small mass of flying insects dissipate.

LSD, 3 Datura seeds and Piracetam with smoked Caapi leaf - Upset/dark spirit in basement of old house; I saw shadows fliting behind from the corners of my eyes; the owners dog before me cowered; staring with wide eyes over my shoulder into the upper corner of this room: behind me.  I didn't turn around but consoled the dog as best I could- and "walked respectfully" for the remainder of my stay and trip... with the dog now stuck fast by my side throughout.

LSA- 22 seeds (Ethanol extract evaporated to resin) and 3 Datura seeds- A rotating colorful kaleidoscopic vortex passed through to a space with vaccum cleaner-faced cats and dancing elephants which then yielded to a psychedelicly colored chameleon.  These first were more like cartoons but could be symbolic for perhaps the fun and absurd energy of the seeds; the chameleon perhaps a warning of the sneakily sticky and dangerous side possibly contained by something beautiful (and psychedelic)... but also a reminder that the experience could also be valuable- like that very teaching.

Salvia- A couple bowls smoked extract- A tree in our backyard reaching to strangle me? It was mad we were throwing darts/ knives into it.
I never threw a sharp projectile at it again but it then became my partner in practicing stick-fighting and was good on me in future Salvia excursions.

Methyl Chavicol- I've got some weird little giddy mushroom type elves scattering from out of my periphery using Methyl chavicol aka Sweet Basil Extract.  This was purely a feeling/sense of them. 

-WHAT ARE THEY?-
I don't know if they are archetypes and subconscious helpful messages:or just a useless form of subconscious TV; if it is a tuning/channelling into various realms or other parts of the universe(s)- like some activated latent ability, or a drawing entities in or just attracting them in general being in our changed state.

I lean towards subconscious but don't discount something I'm not aware of exactly; either.  Like some great concrescence of Godmind that we all share that also has influence, glimpses of awareness into some fractal nature of reality etc etc.


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2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


Edited by flickedbic (08/21/13 08:34 PM)


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Re: Entities? [Re: flickedbic] * 1
    #18739631 - 08/21/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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wolf8312 said:

On a low dose, the entire space and place is made up of many different creatures and beings that are all one part of the same thing- hyperspace. But on a low dose one is like an ant gazing at the foot of an elephant, and as a result can not even comprehend what the elephant actually is!

What I mean to express is that a low dose of DMT will manifest only a low level or mere glimpse of small parts of the metaphysical universe, whereas a high dose will give one a much vaster, more wide angled comprehension of the universe and its inner workings as a whole.




Nicely put wolf8312!!!!



when smoking dmt previously my first couple of endevours felt as if i returned to some place ive been before...the transforming shapes and cataclysmic noises weren't so much disturbing as they were comforting in a strange way...i felt as if every morph of shape corresponded with a sound and every sound was some sort of message or more like a true feeling i was left up to decipher...

My initial thoughts on this were that from reading experience's and expecting a certain type of trip that i was "filling in the blanks from my subconscious" even though it feels so naturally unnatural and felt like the source was not from my mind...

however the strangest encounter was a breakthrough where i passed the usual colourful morphing and sounds to a silent endless marble courtyard with pillars that reached to the sky/ceiling/stars?? with no end... in the courtyard was what i can only describe as a judges dock...or actually was more like a sporting medal winners podium with one higher level and 2 lower levels but felt more like i was being judged...  on top of these 3 podiums were 3 "beings of light" or balls of energy which simultaneously shot beams of light through my pineal gland..

at this moment i could see not so pleasant memorys of me being not so nice in character being ripped out of the back of my skull and blown away...it was so overwhelming its hard to describe but i could see in 360 degrees vertically and horizontally all at once...I could see all!!! I was being shown the error of my ways in the past and the feeling of love is unlike anything ive ever experienced before or since!!!

Ive never tried ayauasca but for me this is the closest to some descriptions of it because it was like a rebirth at the time...all my shame and wrong doings were eliminated and forgiven...and i was shown there is potential!!!

so yeah..never particularly saw any of your "typical" mckenna self transforming machine elves or anything...but ive experienced beings of light and love...and as skeptical as i want to be i truly think they were from a higher realm then most of society will ever get the chance to experience

Not your average wk-end session haha


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Re: Entities? [Re: flickedbic] * 1
    #18740758 - 08/22/13 02:50 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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An early mushroom trip (also 3.5g) I jumped up and declared to my friends that I would call in the insects and did a dance imagining I was a bug to attract them.  It worked beyond any doubt my friends were amazed and I as afraid and stopped; and we watched the small mass of flying insects dissipate.




I am finding a real rapport with insects in day to day life. Ie they seem to feel me. In the past I cringe when I think how I freaked out if a fly dared come into my space. But now I just get a glass and card, and they seem to know to allow me to put glass over them (they cant see glass) and then set them out to fly into the infinite. That is a wonderful feeling. Of helping a little being find freedom

The other day sat outside, one of those hover flies was checking out a pot plant, and I sent it some loving vibes saying 'hello'. next thing it showed me through body language that it was feeling me. It landed on the page of the book I was reading, then later the tip of my pen (I was wrting notes), and then gently touched me hand and groomed itself on my Tshirt :smile:


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Re: Entities? [Re: zzripz]
    #18740834 - 08/22/13 03:36 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

When I begin to peak with every "heroic" dose of mushrooms, I always encounter the same entities in the same sort of imaginary house. I can always count on them showing up, and me at some point being inside this house on my trips. They look like normal people, except their faces are always obscured, no matter how hard I try to focus in on them. There is never any communication, besides a comfortable feeling of familiarity. I also get the feeling as if I'm the one being observed by them. The craziest part is that house in which I see them is always the same: it's a basic two story house with a basement, always the same rooms and floor plan...I have vivid memories of the layout of the rooms by now. And this is not a recreation of a house I've been to physically.

My only encounter with other entities was once with two invisible figures whom I couldn't see, but could somehow clearly perceive otherwise while I was in a sort of mechanically complex elevator. These ones I did actually communicate with. I felt as if I was accelerating in a free fall both up and down at the same time, and I thought to myself, "Am I going up or down?" and they responded to my thought telepathically, "We're going in."


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Re: Entities? [Re: zzripz]
    #18741368 - 08/22/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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An early mushroom trip (also 3.5g) I jumped up and declared to my friends that I would call in the insects and did a dance imagining I was a bug to attract them.  It worked beyond any doubt my friends were amazed and I as afraid and stopped; and we watched the small mass of flying insects dissipate.




I am finding a real rapport with insects in day to day life. Ie they seem to feel me. In the past I cringe when I think how I freaked out if a fly dared come into my space. But now I just get a glass and card, and they seem to know to allow me to put glass over them (they cant see glass) and then set them out to fly into the infinite. That is a wonderful feeling. Of helping a little being find freedom

The other day sat outside, one of those hover flies was checking out a pot plant, and I sent it some loving vibes saying 'hello'. next thing it showed me through body language that it was feeling me. It landed on the page of the book I was reading, then later the tip of my pen (I was wrting notes), and then gently touched me hand and groomed itself on my Tshirt :smile:





I've had a very similar reaction, at first, to insects. After one trip in which flys made a large impact, I felt compelled to help them when they were trapped. I would put them in my hands, or in in a cup, and set them free. But over the years, I seem to have gotten lazy, whether it is me forgetting my revelation, or just becoming depressed at the endless amount of them. Even when you help one fly, there are thousands of them left to suffer. Kinda deterministic :frown:


Reminds me of the Starfish anecdote. http://www.ordinarypeoplechangetheworld.com/articles/the-starfish-story.aspx


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Re: Entities? [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #18743123 - 08/22/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Nice anecdote King Knowledge.

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Practice kindness. One of the common Buddhist practices is carrying a broom with them whenever they go to the mountains. They sweep their path in front of them in order to avoid stepping on plants and animals. They believe that every life form is precious. If you are beginning as a Buddhist, the broom carrying might not work for you now. You can apply kindness into other things in your life like being kind to your family, neighbors, friends, and strangers. If you see a spider, a cockroach, an ant, try to avoid hurting and killing them. They might be of no use inside your house, but they have lives too. They do their tasks, just like we do our own. They deserve to be there. Also, try helping the people in need. Be kind at all times, and you can see how much goodness it will bring to your life.



http://ezinearticles.com/?Becoming-a-Buddhist---Know-the-Steps&id=4663907


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2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


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Re: Entities? [Re: flickedbic]
    #18743167 - 08/22/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

My only 100% entity contact no questions asked was on 1.8g mushroom and smoked 3-4 hits of DMT at the peak. I made it rain outside, then the rain stopped and on my wall I could see an outline forming, then pop out comes a golden holographic, solid light, and reflecting object the size of a dinner plate hover to me for 5 minutes or so and just stop 6 inches from my face. Now this spaceship WAS the trip..there was no swirling hallucinations around it or anything, that's an aspect that helps convince me of its legitimacy.

Anyway, then after 5 or so minutes I went out to touch the thing, as RIGHT as I was about to make contact with it, it slowly hovered away from me and went into the wall. All I could do was outstretch my arm and say to myself "nooooooooo"..then I slowly came down and was just absolutely in shock. I woke up my mom in the next room and made a fool of myself telling her I just met an alien. You know how that goes.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Entities? [Re: zzripz]
    #18743290 - 08/22/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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The most dramatic encounter I have had with entities was not on psychedelics but my second OBE. I had gotten out of bed after going to bed and sleeping and went to the toilet but couldn't piss.

I return to my bedroom. In utter shock I see my sleeping body, and on either side is a male and female who look human. They telepathically tell me not to be afraid, and then they escort me down the stairs.

I see the foront door is open and go out into the garden, and breathe in this amazing air of what is like the day just before sun comes up when the light hs this deep intensity

I return into the house and look in a mirror. I look WEIRD...

I go into the other room. I see two very close people to me.....there happens a VERY dramatic sexual encounter with one of them who has gone down on me..!! As I am screaming, the person sucking my dick and the other one who was just sat there both stand up, take off MASKS--the human faces I thought they were--and underneath they look like Satyrs



I do a U-turn on the spot. RACE up the stairs. Find bedroom, and dive into my sleeping body and was conscious going in!

As you can imagine this was a life-changing experience and the RIDDLE of it continues to unfold

What does it mean? it means that like ancient peoples knew there are different dimensions of experience. The culture we are oppressed under wants to control our consciousness so we are fixed to its agenda--being robotic slaves

On magic mushrooms I have seen little faeries with eyes shut which I later found out the Mazatec peoples call 'the duende' which has been translated as 'supernatural dwarves', but there are other translations, like 'spirits of the earth' etc etc.

Indigenous people and who lived in the country before the assault of modern life are more akin to encountering these dimensions which are in continuum with nature. Nature is a magical and sacred...

It is good to ask questions, but be aware of hidden premises. For example the culture we are in very much divides 'inner'--the psychological--from the 'outer', which mainstream science claims is dead/insentient random matter. So be aware of the myth your swimming in--or encaged in is what I mean.




When I was 12 i had my worst sleep paralysis
Saw a demon face through my bed window
It came into the room could feel it  felt evil
Full hallucinations  full body demon
Couldnt move or scream
Only move eyes
It sat on my chest and I coulf look it into its eyes but not scream
Couldnt breathe
Felt like eternity before I could move

Have since experienced it sleeping on my stomach too
Felt it come into the room  saw shadows
Felt it sit on my back
Can often feel it being in the kitchen etc in lds  feels like an evil presense
Usually see shadows and hear weird noises when it happens

Worse than my worst bad trip  that first SP


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Re: Entities? [Re: lessismore]
    #18743299 - 08/22/13 04:46 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Have you performed smudging?


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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


Edited by flickedbic (08/22/13 04:50 PM)


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Re: Entities? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #18743429 - 08/22/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Jesus_Animal_The said:
I woke up my mom in the next room and made a fool of myself telling her I just met an alien. You know how that goes.




Yup......:trippinballs: 

Nice experience though...sounds demented!!!

I had a friend who was on trippy pills when he was younger..decided to double drop for the first time and promptly went home to try and climb into the fridge..when his folks asked him what he was playing at??..he said he was trying to get into the interdimensional supermarket to get one of those beautiful fractal bottles of milk!!!!.... Folks called the doctor straight away..poor bastard was freaked!!!


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Re: Entities? [Re: Simple-Psyman]
    #18743740 - 08/22/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I'm in contact with entities everyday.  They won't leave me alone most of the time.  What do you want to know specifically?


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Re: Entities? [Re: Simple-Psyman]
    #18743876 - 08/22/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Simple-Psyman said:
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Jesus_Animal_The said:
I woke up my mom in the next room and made a fool of myself telling her I just met an alien. You know how that goes.




Yup......:trippinballs: 

Nice experience though...sounds demented!!!

I had a friend who was on trippy pills when he was younger..decided to double drop for the first time and promptly went home to try and climb into the fridge..when his folks asked him what he was playing at??..he said he was trying to get into the interdimensional supermarket to get one of those beautiful fractal bottles of milk!!!!.... Folks called the doctor straight away..poor bastard was freaked!!!




ahahahahah wow man that's hilarious!


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Entities? [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #18743911 - 08/22/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

HONESTLY, I was about to start a thread asking the same question. Only, I saw the entities you are asking about, and wanted to know if anyone else had a similar experience.

I posted a thread ("Tonight! Tonight!") about a week ago asking for some good vibes as I was about to embark on my first heroic dose alone and in the dark. I had eaten 10 grams a month earlier, so it wasnt the amount that made me nervous, just the being alone and in the dark.

Up until now, I was beginning to question any vivid hallucinations from mushrooms, as I had never really seen anything other than illumination of color and perhaps wavy objects, due to increase in light intake. HOWEVER, when I was alone in the dark, it was like a 3 hour DMT trip, and the first time I had ever encountered the entity, made up of infinite entities, which exists and actually is you (it reassures you of this all throughout the experience, but it does it by building conflict and then resolving it into nothingness; I said in my original thread that night "They have a barbaric sense of humor.")

It was indescribable...but very real, and I feel like, though my eyes were pinned shut, it felt like they were fully opened. It was ecstatic, and life-affirming.

The entities are very kind... but they will mess with you for their own amusement, and they can be easily seen or felt, whatever, from psilocybin... but you must be alone in the dark, and I would encourage, right when you feel it getting to the point (you will know; approx 1:15  - 2 hrs. in) start smoking herb, and you are catapulted into what it is the mushrooms are trying to show you. They are tools of evolution... but you must be willing to go it alone, in the dark... if ever want to get there.

FEEDBACK PLEASE! anyone who has seen or felt this experience.


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Re: Entities? [Re: treid2]
    #18744000 - 08/22/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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FEEDBACK PLEASE! anyone who has seen or felt this experience.




It seems I know exactly what you are talking about.  But, where the entities are tethered to me somehow and don't leave.  They are everywhere I go.  They claim they are Baphomet and that I am baphomet which is confusing all the while proclaiming that they are...  Christianity.  Angels and what not.

I know what you mean about their sense of humor.  They rarely stop.  Bad thing is they are like parasites feeding off the life force amassing what they can.  I feel drained allot of the time.

Do you go into it then sort of come down?  Or are you with them all of the time?


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