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No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says
    #18739621 - 08/21/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

CNN

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President Barack Obama isn't looking to change current federal laws dictating the classification of marijuana, his spokesman explained Wednesday.

Josh Earnest, the deputy press secretary, said Obama "does not, at this point, advocate a change in the law" that places marijuana in the same class of drugs as heroin, ecstasy and psychedelic mushrooms, and which deems cannabis to have no medical use.

Responding to a question from CNN Chief White House Correspondent Jessica Yellin, Earnest described the Obama administration's position on marijuana as mainly focused on prosecuting drug traffickers rather than individual users.

"The administration's position on this has been clear and consistent for some time now," he said. "While the prosecution of drug traffickers remains an important priority, the president and the administration believe that the targeting of individual marijuana users, especially those with serious illnesses and their caregivers, is not the best allocation of federal law enforcement resources."

A day earlier, Earnest said he couldn't say whether or not the president's personal views on medical marijuana had changed as he had not seen a column and documentary written by CNN Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta, which detailed Gupta's own shift on the issue.

Obama considered naming Gupta as surgeon general in 2009, but the neurosurgeon later said he withdrew his name so he could maintain his surgical career and continue spending time with his family.

Gupta's online essay on marijuana, published August 9, was titled "Why I changed my mind on weed." In it, he described changing his own stance on medical marijuana after researching the topic for his CNN documentary "Weed."

He also apologized for what he said was his misguided previous stance.

"I apologize because I didn't look hard enough, until now," Gupta wrote. "I didn't look far enough. I didn't review papers from smaller labs in other countries doing some remarkable research, and I was too dismissive of the loud chorus of legitimate patients whose symptoms improved on cannabis."

Obama last weighed in on the use of marijuana after two states – Washington and Colorado – legalized the recreational use of the drug.

"This is a tough problem, because Congress has not yet changed the law," Obama told Barbara Walters of ABC News. "I head up the executive branch; we're supposed to be carrying out laws. And so what we're going to need to have is a conversation about, How do you reconcile a federal law that still says marijuana is a federal offense and state laws that say that it's legal?"

Supporters of medical marijuana have largely been disappointed in the Obama administration's record on the issue. While many were hopeful Obama would discontinue Bush-era crackdowns on dispensaries in states allowing the medical use of cannabis, those raids have ramped up since 2011. Users of medical marijuana, however, have mostly been left alone by the federal government.




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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: 4HO-DMT] * 4
    #18739642 - 08/21/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

What a two headed fuck.


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #18739699 - 08/21/13 08:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: un-known-ome] * 2
    #18739713 - 08/21/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

:plutonic: <- man kissing terrorist


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: 4HO-DMT] * 4
    #18739732 - 08/21/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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physicist said:
Supporters of medical marijuana have largely been disappointed in the Obama administration's record on the issue.





Boy, that is quite the understatement.


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: Le_Canard] * 1
    #18739738 - 08/21/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Josh Earnest, the deputy press secretary, said Obama "does not, at this point, advocate a change in the law" that places marijuana in the same class of drugs as heroin, ecstasy and psychedelic mushrooms, and which deems cannabis to have no medical use.

"The administration's position on this has been clear and consistent for some time now," he said. "While the prosecution of drug traffickers remains an important priority, the president and the administration believe that the targeting of individual marijuana users, especially those with serious illnesses and their caregivers, is not the best allocation of federal law enforcement resources."




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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: Konyap] * 5
    #18739852 - 08/21/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

He's basically saying I smoked mine, now I'll smoke you, thanks for the vote suckers!


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: StygianKnight]
    #18739914 - 08/21/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

If Obama does anything on this issue, it'll be when he's lame-ducking it.  His political capital is already drained enough.


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: 4HO-DMT] * 1
    #18739939 - 08/21/13 09:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

With or without you,change is gonna come.


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: Rockhound]
    #18740114 - 08/21/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It'll just happen after 2016, if another, more open minded president is elected, if it's a hardcore conservative, we all may have to buckle down for the long haul.


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: Futuresight] * 4
    #18740394 - 08/21/13 11:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Futuresight said:
It'll just happen after 2016, if another, more open minded president is elected, if it's a hardcore conservative, we all may have to buckle down for the long haul.




conservative or liberal, were all fucked


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: Futuresight] * 4
    #18740537 - 08/22/13 12:41 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Futuresight said:
It'll just happen after 2016, if another, more open minded president is elected, if it's a hardcore conservative, we all may have to buckle down for the long haul.




I can't believe people even bring up political parties anymore.  All of them are working against us.  The system itself needs to be changed.


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: bourgeo]
    #18740581 - 08/22/13 12:58 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

guns are pretty fucking awesome... :minigun:


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: orison]
    #18741157 - 08/22/13 07:56 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Honestly what has he fucking done that he said he has! This is bullshit half the fucking people I know voted for him just because of this... fucking politicians!  :poop:


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: Gorlax]
    #18741784 - 08/22/13 10:52 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I just meant that a conservative is more likely to not support legalization, also said nothing about political parties. I do not support the two party system either.


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: Futuresight]
    #18742025 - 08/22/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Futuresight said:
I just meant that a conservative is more likely to not support legalization, also said nothing about political parties.




Given a choice between a conservative that tells you what he plans/thinks and a liberal who lies through his teeth to secure your vote... I'll go with the conservative.


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18742134 - 08/22/13 12:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Aww, you think you actually have a choice!  :shocked:
Politics is a bit like ghostbusters, you're going to get a conservative whether you like it or not, you just get to choose the name and form of your destroyer.
It's not like our last 4 presidents didn't lie through their teeth as well.


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #18742189 - 08/22/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The war goes on I guess, 100 more years of oppression :cheers:

I for one will not change my stance in 1000 years.


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says *DELETED* [Re: Futuresight]
    #18742190 - 08/22/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: Sillyputty67]
    #18742196 - 08/22/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

malicom said:

Its a game. When will people stop playing?




Well whats there to do? Kill all the vampires and new ones spring up, thats the consolidation history has to offer us.


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says *DELETED* [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18742204 - 08/22/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: Sillyputty67] * 1
    #18742220 - 08/22/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

That wouldn't spread very far as a national movement, albeit if you want to live that lifestyle there are others doing it and it might be better for your personal life. My lifestyle is pretty similar, still stuck in the money game buy spending about $400 a month and living larger than my friends spending $3000 a month. Not the size of your wallet but how you use it, even a billion dollars is worthless if you're a miserable square

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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: StygianKnight]
    #18742283 - 08/22/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

StygianKnight said:
Aww, you think you actually have a choice!




It's a shame you don't realize you do.

And Obama is by no stretch of the imagination a conservative.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 2
    #18742298 - 08/22/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

What are my choices again?  Corporate owned party A or corporate owned Party B. 
Both say what they think the voters want to hear and they follow their corporate masters agenda anyway.

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luvdemshrooms said:
And Obama is by no stretch of the imagination a conservative.



Conservative lite in comparison to the wacko nutjob conservatives that we have come to think of as the 'average' conservative.  But conservative none the less.  The US under Obama has expanded the conservative agenda of enslaving blacks through drug laws and bombing middle easterners.  Among many other things.


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: StygianKnight]
    #18742305 - 08/22/13 01:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

So don't vote. Others will.


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: StygianKnight]
    #18742308 - 08/22/13 01:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Choices consist of moving out of country, or reducing dependence on $.

:beatadeadhorse:


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: Sillyputty67] * 2
    #18742312 - 08/22/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

wow what a surprise the executive branch doesn't want to disrupt the status quo.


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: LeeHarvOz] * 1
    #18742521 - 08/22/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

This is why I'm praying for a certain super volcano to press the restart button. That or a solar flare, but most govs are ready for that. Both will happen; that's not even a question. Nature supports neither party & we need to stop as well. We feed these power pigs, so we need to start claiming our bacon. When TSHTF do we really want this to be the way future generations remember us? Stop bitching about Obama & Bush & make them obsolete. Take a hold & take control.


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: Lingabhakt]
    #18742619 - 08/22/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You know how much of a stoner Obama was? There aren't even any pictures of me smoking a joint and I'm not the president of the United States. LOL. (That was a joke)

And that's even before everyone had cell phones. Those pictures had to be developed!


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: Lingabhakt]
    #18742623 - 08/22/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Lingabhakt said:
This is why I'm praying for a certain super volcano to press the restart button. That or a solar flare, but most govs are ready for that. Both will happen; that's not even a question. Nature supports neither party & we need to stop as well. We feed these power pigs, so we need to start claiming our bacon. When TSHTF do we really want this to be the way future generations remember us? Stop bitching about Obama & Bush & make them obsolete. Take a hold & take control.




Don't hold your breath, the odds of any kind of apocalyptic scenario are sparse. With all the nuclear fallout from the plants being unattended there would be no restart anyways, for nature yes but not humanity.


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18742632 - 08/22/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

In Obama's senior yearbook, he makes a shoutout to his "Choom Gang" in front of a bunch of rolling papers.


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18742665 - 08/22/13 02:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Repertoire89 said:
Quote:

Lingabhakt said:
This is why I'm praying for a certain super volcano to press the restart button. That or a solar flare, but most govs are ready for that. Both will happen; that's not even a question. Nature supports neither party & we need to stop as well. We feed these power pigs, so we need to start claiming our bacon. When TSHTF do we really want this to be the way future generations remember us? Stop bitching about Obama & Bush & make them obsolete. Take a hold & take control.




Don't hold your breath, the odds of any kind of apocalyptic scenario are sparse. With all the nuclear fallout from the plants being unattended there would be no restart anyways, for nature yes but not humanity.





Not true my friend. cataclysmic meteor strikes, yellowstone errupting, and getting bathed in a solar cme are a certainty. 100%.

Its just a matter of time. 1 year, 10 years, or 10 thousand years.

And dont forget about the gamma bursts from black holes. If one ever hit us, the planet would be dust.


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Edited by Sillyputty67 (08/22/13 02:19 PM)


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: Sillyputty67]
    #18742687 - 08/22/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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malicom said:
Quote:

Repertoire89 said:
Quote:

Lingabhakt said:
This is why I'm praying for a certain super volcano to press the restart button. That or a solar flare, but most govs are ready for that. Both will happen; that's not even a question. Nature supports neither party & we need to stop as well. We feed these power pigs, so we need to start claiming our bacon. When TSHTF do we really want this to be the way future generations remember us? Stop bitching about Obama & Bush & make them obsolete. Take a hold & take control.




Don't hold your breath, the odds of any kind of apocalyptic scenario are sparse. With all the nuclear fallout from the plants being unattended there would be no restart anyways, for nature yes but not humanity.





Not true my friend. cataclysmic meteor strikes, yellowstone errupting, and getting bathed in a solar cme are a certainty. 100%.

Its just a matter of time. 1 year, 10 years, or 10 thousand years.




Those are all certainties but the likelihood of any apocalyptic event in our lifetime is pretty much nil, man-made or natural. Think it'll be a few hundred years before humans have safely colonized space and could survive the destruction of our natural habitat, at that rate who knows what the odds are. In our lifetime though there is little reason to worry let alone make a futile change in lifestyle


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18742707 - 08/22/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Apocalyptic events happen randomly. Generally not predictable. One could happen in 5 minutes.


Although i postulate that due to murphys law, just because you said it wont happen in our lifetime, now it will.....


Lol.


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: Sillyputty67] * 2
    #18742718 - 08/22/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The only way to settle this is a bet

100 bucks says the world doesn't end by 2100
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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says *DELETED* [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18742727 - 08/22/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: Sillyputty67] * 1
    #18743073 - 08/22/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

My dumb ass thought that a vote for clinton=legal weed.At least we learned a blow job isn't cheating.


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: Rockhound]
    #18743366 - 08/22/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Silver linings!:mushroom2:


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: Futuresight] * 1
    #18746053 - 08/23/13 08:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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In Obama's senior yearbook, he makes a shoutout to his "Choom Gang" in front of a bunch of rolling papers.




obama is a corrupt scumbag lying piece of shit who probably probably traded all sense of morality for his greedy lust for power a long time ago, just like every single politician in this disgrace of a goverment we have running our country into the fucking ground.

bush did plenty of coke, was anyone surprised he didn't make that legal?


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: Sillyputty67]
    #18746819 - 08/23/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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malicom said:
My take on it is stop using money... Build a farm. Practice permaculture. Any way you can reduce your dependence on them and their money disempowers them. Also try to get as many other people onboard with the idea, and barter with them your goods. The only way to have an affect is if we band together, and do it in mass.



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Repertoire89 said:
That wouldn't spread very far as a national movement, albeit if you want to live that lifestyle there are others doing it and it might be better for your personal life.




Individually, we do not have the power to change the world but we do have the power to change the way we live our own lives. Choosing to live a self-reliant lifestyle provides freedom from the system and an easier route to happiness (you know, the one within). The idea is that by doing this, others will see the benefits and make the choice to live a self-reliant lifestyle themselves. It may or may not work to change the world, but that shouldn't be the goal. The goal should be to maximize happiness for oneself while causing the least amount of suffering for everyone else. Remember, we must all be the change that we want to see in the world.


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Re: No change in marijuana laws coming, White House says [Re: empty space]
    #18748600 - 08/23/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

This doesn't change anything. We just keep on fighting for the same thing we've been fighting. The change can be seen in the progress we've made, fighting these nonsensical regulations on a local/state level. That house cannot stand without its foundation


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