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Please Help Panther Amanita?!!
    #18739072 - 08/21/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hi all, ok so yesterday i found 1 of these in my yard and my pics where not good enough to properly i.d these here. SOOO just my luck I found more today lol
i have taken a lot of pics and can take more, i have not broken them apart or boiled them either lol
all i have done was rinse the dirt off of them
sooo please help me to ID these guys
from my google searching my best guess is a panther amanita


Habitat:
Where does it grow? Eg. woods, pasture, state, province, country, altitude, etc. What does it grow on? Eg. soil, dung, wood (dead, living, what kind of wood?), etc.

My front yard, has been very rainy lately, eastern NC

Gills:
Color, attached/not, gills/pores, etc.

Have pics can take more

Stem:
Length, diameter, color, texture, hollow/solid, thin/thick, etc.

see pics, can do whater you want i have a tape measure
Cap:
Diameter, color, texture, conical/spherical, convex/concave, etc.

see pics

Spore print color:
Very important!

IDK what that is?!

Bruising:
Color that the mushroom bruises, if any.

IDK what that is either!

Other information:
Scent of the mushroom, anything else you think is important, large close-up pictures showing stem, cap and gills.

no smell















Edited by yumablue (08/21/13 07:06 PM)


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Re: Help Panter Amanita?!! [Re: yumablue]
    #18739079 - 08/21/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Lol the 3rd and 4th pics from last look like they are made for a cake or something.


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Re: Help Panter Amanita?!! [Re: Untitled]
    #18739084 - 08/21/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

no i picked them right out of my yard and took them in and rinsed them off to get the dirt off of them


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Re: Help Panter Amanita?!! [Re: yumablue]
    #18739088 - 08/21/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah i know, I wasn't actually suggesting they were not real lol.


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Re: Help Panter Amanita?!! [Re: Untitled]
    #18739091 - 08/21/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

ooh sorry i have been taking a lot of criticism lately +/


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Re: Help Panter Amanita?!! [Re: yumablue]
    #18739204 - 08/21/13 07:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry I can't help, I'm in the wrong part of the world to know your Amanita species well, but it's a great ID request, hopefully you get TI input soon.


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Re: Help Panter Amanita?!! [Re: Tas75]
    #18739340 - 08/21/13 07:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

thanks =) i hope so also


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Re: Help Panter Amanita?!! [Re: yumablue]
    #18739639 - 08/21/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Don't wash 'em off.  Makes 'em rot doubletime and harder to id.  Get a small slightly stiff paintbrush or such and use that to gently flick away the duff bits.

Your pics are getting better.  ;-)

Where are the spore prints?  Didn't we learn you better'n that?


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Re: Help Panter Amanita?!! [Re: Tas75]
    #18739714 - 08/21/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I saw that and I was like, 'Holy shit, maybe he's right,' though I'm pretty sure A. pantherina grows in California and the PNW. :smile:

"Bruising" is when you smush a part of it and it turns a different color. Amanita brunnescens, for instance, looks like your mushroom. One of the key identifiers is that the flesh bruises brown. Psilocybin mushrooms bruise blue (but not all blue-bruising mushrooms are psilocybin mushrooms). Sometimes they don't bruise, but will discolor a bit when you cut them.

A spore print is made by cutting off the stem and placing the cap on a piece of tinfoil, gill-side down, covering it with a cup or bowl so it won't be disturbed, and letting it sit for a few hours. The spores will fall out of the gills and stick to the foil. The color of the spores is helpful when IDing. Amanita spore prints are almost always white, so it's not going to help you in this circumstance, but with some species it's a very important identifier. Search the site for how to make a spore print.

The stem, bulb, and volva are the best identifiers with Amanitas. Carefully digging up the mushroom is important, though sometimes it's a real bitch to do without breaking it. I had some little ones that were pushing up through moss and it was impossible to dig them out without destroying the universal veil. Which sucks, because it meant that I wasn't able to figure out what it was.

Awesome specimens, btw. :thumbup:

There's this, too:

http://www.shroomery.org/10224/Hunting-Fly-Agarics-in-North-America


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Re: Help Panter Amanita?!! [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #18740885 - 08/22/13 04:24 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

ok, ill have to work on this later, oops srry about rinsing with water


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Re: Help Panter Amanita?!! [Re: yumablue]
    #18740928 - 08/22/13 05:05 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The base of the stalk doesn't seem A. pantherina, A. excelsa var spissa maybe?


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Re: Help Panter Amanita?!! [Re: pouihi]
    #18740956 - 08/22/13 05:29 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

wow does look like the excelsa, the skirt dropes this mourning looking jus like the excesa


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Re: Help Panter Amanita?!! [Re: yumablue]
    #18740960 - 08/22/13 05:35 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

but I have no idea, they look so much alike


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Re: Help Panter Amanita?!! [Re: yumablue]
    #18741969 - 08/22/13 11:43 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

That looks promising. A. excelsa var. spissa is supposed to grow in eastern North America. I'm looking at mushroom porn at work. Bullocks. Now I'm gonna have to go search for mushrooms.


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Re: Help Panter Amanita?!! [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #18742650 - 08/22/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)



buffalo, found this light green one today


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Re: Help Panter Amanita?!! [Re: yumablue]
    #18743619 - 08/22/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

What does it smell like? It's hard to tell from the picture, but does it just have a big bulb at the base, or does it look like it hatched out of a floppy eggshell? It looks brown on my screen, btw. Is it more olive-colored in real life?

I'm thinking a tentative Amanita crenulata, but don't eat me, bro.


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