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Re: Poor mans flow 'hood' idea. [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #18738582 - 08/21/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I'm just saying, no one here actually knows for sure. I understand all the logic that has been posted on this thread. But no one here really has the authority to say that it will fail or succeed. Unless there are some Aerodynamics majors lurking around who are experienced and would actually know.


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Re: Poor mans flow 'hood' idea. [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #18738605 - 08/21/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I know for sure. I can say it with authority. I don't need a degree to figure this one out


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Re: Poor mans flow 'hood' idea. [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #18738614 - 08/21/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

How did you figure it out and how do you know?


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Re: Poor mans flow 'hood' idea. [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #18738623 - 08/21/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Scruffy, are you being serious? If none of us are an engineer, then why should we accept the idea of another non-engineer if it contradicts our understanding of the subject? It's not about having a closed mind, it's about demanding something more then an idea, like a convincing explanation of the function.

I got a fuckin' brilliant idea about lighting my blankets on fire on the floor to keep warm, are you closed minded if you tell me that's a really dangerous, inefficient and possibly counterproductive way of doing it?


By all means, I am willing to listen to the OP's suggestion, but I can't agree until someone can show me why and how it would work.


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Re: Poor mans flow 'hood' idea. [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #18738627 - 08/21/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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How did you figure it out and how do you know?



Don't answer that...this is pointless. We all know that air currents have to go somewhere. Bouncing off walls and everywhere. We also know that mold spores are airborne and everywhere.


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Re: Poor mans flow 'hood' idea. [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18738639 - 08/21/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Right, I'm not saying krypto is right. I am saying you all flamed him for his idea, when in reality you don't even know for sure. Instead several people decided to belittle krypto. Rbalzer, we don't actually know all of that. You are just assuming.


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Re: Poor mans flow 'hood' idea. [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #18738655 - 08/21/13 05:03 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Right, I'm not saying krypto is right. I am saying you all flamed him for his idea, when in reality you don't even know for sure. Instead several people decided to belittle krypto. Rbalzer, we don't actually know all of that. You are just assuming.



We also don't KNOW if gravity is real. We dont KNOW FOR SURE, if anything we think we know is true.

who the hell cares? stop talking


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Re: Poor mans flow 'hood' idea. [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #18738670 - 08/21/13 05:06 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

If you are going to suggest "cat" is spelled with a "k" then you better have some documentation, or you will get belittled... Have some replies been shitty? Yes. But many have not, and it started out entirely polite...


By the way, if your point is that "people were being dicks" then you are entirely undermining that by trying to wedge in some credence to his idea. And still without explaining the function..


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Re: Poor mans flow 'hood' idea. [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #18738680 - 08/21/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm just saying, no one here actually knows for sure. I understand all the logic that has been posted on this thread. But no one here really has the authority to say that it will fail or succeed. Unless there are some Aerodynamics majors lurking around who are experienced and would actually know.




Experience over rides this subject. An aerodynamic major would just give analytical word fluff. When ya get your hands dirty and do it then its a whole new answer.


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Re: Poor mans flow 'hood' idea. [Re: Kjetterfaen]
    #18738684 - 08/21/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I tend to get ruder when people can't at least hold up their side of the discussion with logic. Sorry if I pissed anyone off :lol:


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Re: Poor mans flow 'hood' idea. [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #18738693 - 08/21/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I know the same way I know a 3-way with 2 hot chicks would be awesome.

Sure, there is the possibility that I'm wrong, but the power of deductive reasoning should not be under estimated.

It's not important for you to believe that I know, because I know I know and that's good enough for me.


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Re: Poor mans flow 'hood' idea. [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #18738702 - 08/21/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

The gravity example isn't a good comparison. There are a lot of people who actually know if the OP would be wrong or not and they wouldn't need to fluff up their words. Who actually has experience with this specific idea anyway? Come on guys, those are some weak points. We don't know how the air will move around in the room. Krypto could be right about the physics of the air current. He's going to try the idea and see if it works, there was no need to give him shit.


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Re: Poor mans flow 'hood' idea. [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #18738719 - 08/21/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Sage, would you agree then that my request for some documentation before lending the idea any credence is reasonable? No flaming, no saying it won't work; just that the burden of proof is on him. Sound fair?


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Re: Poor mans flow 'hood' idea. [Re: Kjetterfaen]
    #18738728 - 08/21/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

He wasn't claiming he was right though. He just wanted to tell us about his idea and see what we think. It was an innocent act and he pretty much got made fun of.


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Re: Poor mans flow 'hood' idea. [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #18738752 - 08/21/13 05:20 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

In the first post he says he can't see why it won't work. In the second post in this thread he got what is probably the definitive laymans answer in regards to why it won't.

Then OP's second post contains, among other things, this:

"Sure it would move spores around, but it doesn't matter so long as the current is right, they'll get sucked upwards before they fall into your jar/agar dish. Just hold a cigarette under it to see which direction the smoke goes, that's what's going to happen to your airborne spores. If it goes down at all then you have too much force on the fan/your room is too small and it won't work."

This is a pretty definitive statement.


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Re: Poor mans flow 'hood' idea. [Re: Kjetterfaen]
    #18738774 - 08/21/13 05:25 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I'm amazed this thread is still going. Is there really anything to discuss here?

IMO let the man test it out, see for himself. Just put a couple agar dishes out for a few minutes, see how much shit there'll be growing there in a couple of days. It'll be fun!


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Re: Poor mans flow 'hood' idea. [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #18738780 - 08/21/13 05:27 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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He wasn't claiming he was right though. He just wanted to tell us about his idea and see what we think. It was an innocent act and he pretty much got made fun of.




Not everyone was making fun of him. I'm only making fun of you.

This was kinda fun at first, but now it's getting sad.

If you actually care if it works, then try it.

Some things are just too stupid to debate about.

I'm out


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Re: Poor mans flow 'hood' idea. [Re: Kjetterfaen]
    #18738783 - 08/21/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

It is, I'll agree with that. I don't see why people laughed in his face though because he could be right. Yeah the burden of proof would fall on him, but that doesn't give people an excuse to act that way toward someone. I am defending krypto because for whatever reason people think it's okay to be an ass hole to people who they think are wrong, and it's not okay to me.


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Re: Poor mans flow 'hood' idea. [Re: Pestile]
    #18738802 - 08/21/13 05:34 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Pest: I agree, but we won't get to see the results though, 'cause he isn't sharing his scientific breakthroughs with us anymore.

Scruffy: I can only repeat what I said earlier about you undermining your point at this stage. There is no need to defend him or his idea, it's just counterproductive. The idea may be genius, the idea may be shit; people shouldn't be assholes regardless.


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Re: Poor mans flow 'hood' idea. [Re: Kjetterfaen]
    #18738835 - 08/21/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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It is, I'll agree with that. I don't see why people laughed in his face though because he could be right. Yeah the burden of proof would fall on him, but that doesn't give people an excuse to act that way toward someone. I am defending krypto because for whatever reason people think it's okay to be an ass hole to people who they think are wrong, and it's not okay to me.




No, he can't be right.

But I agree 100%, there's no reason for people to be assholes, which I really don't see happening.


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