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Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years in Wikileaks case [Re: psi]
    #18741322 - 08/22/13 09:14 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Could be.


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Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years in Wikileaks case [Re: psi]
    #18741345 - 08/22/13 09:20 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Same here. I wonder if it's just a last ditch effort not to end up in a mens' prison.




It's not. Chelsea Manning's struggle with her gender is well documented and I doubt she will receive any special treatment for it in military prison. She is being held in the men's section regardless.

I'm amazed by the news, all the same, and by her relentless bravery. Her choices are not being motivated by self-interest. She could have had her sentence drastically shortened if she had pleaded guilty and agreed to testify against Julian Assange, but she and her values are made of much stronger stuff. I have my own reasons for being inspired but IMHO she is a champion of our generation and of all Americans.


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Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years in Wikileaks case [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18741358 - 08/22/13 09:23 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Fair enough. I had not been following the story, this was just the first I'd heard of it.


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Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years in Wikileaks case [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #18741380 - 08/22/13 09:28 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Same here. I wonder if it's just a last ditch effort not to end up in a mens' prison.




It's not. Chelsea Manning's struggle with her gender is well documented and I doubt she will receive any special treatment for it in military prison. She is being held in the men's section regardless.

I'm amazed by the news, all the same, and by her relentless bravery. Her choices are not being motivated by self-interest. She could have had her sentence drastically shortened if she had pleaded guilty and agreed to testify against Julian Assange, but she and her values are made of much stronger stuff. I have my own reasons for being inspired but IMHO she is a champion of our generation and of all Americans.



Testify against Assange for what?  And who elected him to decide what is and is not acceptable state secrecy.  The idiot released 700,000 documents.  Do you think he reviewed them?

I don't give two shits about the criminal's gender issues.


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Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years in Wikileaks case [Re: gENERIX]
    #18741382 - 08/22/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Wow.. :eek:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23784288

I knew he was never going to walk away from the 'crimes' against him, but 35 years is unbelievable! Murderers, rapists and sex offenders are just a few of the criminals out there that are handed down sentences far less than what Bradley Manning has been given, and for what? Showing the transparency of the american government and the actions that it commits.

I'm sorry but reading stories like this just makes me both terribly angry and sad at the same time. In my eyes, someone like Bradley Manning should be treated not like a criminal, but like a hero!




:shrug: that's democracy for you. Kill some kids in van from a helicopter "they are unloading weapons and this guy on the ground is picking up a weapon" no big deal.

Report it though..... :awewtf:


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Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years in Wikileaks case [Re: imachavel]
    #18741387 - 08/22/13 09:31 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I like the Chelsea Manning twist to this story. It really spices things up.


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Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years in Wikileaks case [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18741388 - 08/22/13 09:31 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Same here. I wonder if it's just a last ditch effort not to end up in a mens' prison.




It's not. Chelsea Manning's struggle with her gender is well documented and I doubt she will receive any special treatment for it in military prison. She is being held in the men's section regardless.

I'm amazed by the news, all the same, and by her relentless bravery. Her choices are not being motivated by self-interest. She could have had her sentence drastically shortened if she had pleaded guilty and agreed to testify against Julian Assange, but she and her values are made of much stronger stuff. I have my own reasons for being inspired but IMHO she is a champion of our generation and of all Americans.



Testify against Assange for what?  And who elected him to decide what is and is not acceptable state secrecy.  The idiot released 700,000 documents.  Do you think he reviewed them?

I don't give two shits about the criminal's gender issues.




I don't give two shits about Trayvon Martin. If people aren't going to protest this fine, protest Trayvon Martin. I guarantee you no one is protesting shit.

People are lucky there was a trial for Zimmerman. Fuck... you in the middle east, some American blows your face off right in the streets in front of a bunch of kids. Want justice? Good luck with that


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Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years in Wikileaks case [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18741458 - 08/22/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

zig, there is nothing I can say that hasn't already been said but I'll sum it up anyway: war crimes committed by American troops are still war crimes. The people deserve to know and the perpetrators deserve to be held to the same degree of scrutiny and accountability that has been reserved for Manning. The military's first responsibility is to the American people.

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Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years in Wikileaks case [Re: imachavel]
    #18741462 - 08/22/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It's too late for justice.  Now it is time for retribution.


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Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years in Wikileaks case [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #18741470 - 08/22/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Same here. I wonder if it's just a last ditch effort not to end up in a mens' prison.




It's not. Chelsea Manning's struggle with her gender is well documented and I doubt she will receive any special treatment for it in military prison. She is being held in the men's section regardless.

I'm amazed by the news, all the same, and by her relentless bravery. Her choices are not being motivated by self-interest. She could have had her sentence drastically shortened if she had pleaded guilty and agreed to testify against Julian Assange, but she and her values are made of much stronger stuff. I have my own reasons for being inspired but IMHO she is a champion of our generation and of all Americans.




I see you're pretty fast to start throwing around the word she... aren't you progressive.


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Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years in Wikileaks case [Re: Murph]
    #18741504 - 08/22/13 09:49 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

fyi, a true progressive would have used a gender neutral term such as 'they' or 'their'


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Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years in Wikileaks case [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #18741508 - 08/22/13 09:50 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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fyi, a true progressive would have used a gender neutral term such as 'they' or 'their'




No. Somebody who uses sloppy English would have used those pronouns, and a true moonbat would have used goofy made-up pronouns like "zhe" or "hir".


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Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years in Wikileaks case [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18741519 - 08/22/13 09:54 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

somebody and moonbat are satisfyingly gender neutral.


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Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years in Wikileaks case [Re: Niffla]
    #18741525 - 08/22/13 09:55 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Bradley Manning says he wants to live as a woman, be called Chelsea

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/22/us/bradley-manning/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

I lol'd





Interesting. :strokebeard: Funny how this comes out right now....


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Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years in Wikileaks case [Re: Le_Canard]
    #18741704 - 08/22/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, quite the coincidence.


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Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years in Wikileaks case [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18741712 - 08/22/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Traitors face the death penalty.
For supplying our enemies with god knows what...


30 years ain't shit.
He'll be out in 10.

Writing books and the cause célèbre for all the anti-American liberals.


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Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years in Wikileaks case [Re: imachavel]
    #18741756 - 08/22/13 10:48 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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gENERIX said:
Wow.. :eek:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23784288

I knew he was never going to walk away from the 'crimes' against him, but 35 years is unbelievable! Murderers, rapists and sex offenders are just a few of the criminals out there that are handed down sentences far less than what Bradley Manning has been given, and for what? Showing the transparency of the american government and the actions that it commits.

I'm sorry but reading stories like this just makes me both terribly angry and sad at the same time. In my eyes, someone like Bradley Manning should be treated not like a criminal, but like a hero!




:shrug: that's democracy for you. Kill some kids in van from a helicopter "they are unloading weapons and this guy on the ground is picking up a weapon" no big deal.

Report it though..... :awewtf:





:picard: Both kids survived.


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Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years in Wikileaks case [Re: OldHam]
    #18741786 - 08/22/13 10:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I admire what he did but my bullshit meter is going off the charts with this new twist.


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Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years in Wikileaks case [Re: Murph]
    #18741945 - 08/22/13 11:38 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hasta la vista, baby!


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Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years in Wikileaks case [Re: mpd]
    #18742103 - 08/22/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Wow.. :eek:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23784288

I knew he was never going to walk away from the 'crimes' against him, but 35 years is unbelievable! Murderers, rapists and sex offenders are just a few of the criminals out there that are handed down sentences far less than what Bradley Manning has been given, and for what? Showing the transparency of the american government and the actions that it commits.

I'm sorry but reading stories like this just makes me both terribly angry and sad at the same time. In my eyes, someone like Bradley Manning should be treated not like a criminal, but like a hero!


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Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years in Wikileaks case [Re: gENERIX] +
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Committing a crime against the king will cost you your head :uhoh:


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Julian Assange seems pretty upbeat about the whole thing:

http://wikileaks.org/Statement-by-Julian-Assange-on,267.html


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    #18738396 - 08/21/13 06:15 PM (19 hours, 54 minutes ago)
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I guess he'll learn a whole new meaning to the term whistle blower in prison.


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I heard he was really probably only going to have to serve about 7 years.

Still pretty fucked up though.


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    #18738619 - 08/21/13 06:58 PM (19 hours, 12 minutes ago)
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I'm not terribly surprised considering what he was convicted of. With all the charges, 35 years is actually pretty good for him. Good thing for him he didn't get aiding the enemy too. Still a fuck ton though.


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I couldn't do it lol. 35 years? Just no way.


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I personally blame the homosexuals


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New York Post was saying he was mentally ill cause he was sending pictures of himself dress like a female like a girl, like really New York Post, you've never had any experience with homosexuals? If anything they'd wouldn't have anything but experience with homosexuals considering the audience.


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Sad to see what happens to those who do something about the bad things. And Obama is like


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Minimum of 5.2 years, still fucked up though.


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I'd take anything the Post said with a huge grain of salt. They're the American version of the Sun.


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