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Mug shots
#18738291 - 08/21/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey, just out of curiosity, why do people keep their eyes open and their head up when they're arrested and given their mug shot? What consequence would there be for not allowing them to take a good mug shot picture?
Wouldn't it be smart to not let them take a good mug shot picture of you, if for no other reason than because they plaster those pictures all over websites and those mug shot news papers that they sell in grocery and convenience stores?
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Re: Mug shots [Re: Learyfan] 2
#18738295 - 08/21/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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The idea is not to get spartan kicked by the 5.0
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I would rather just comply and keep my eyes open, not do anything stupid in the picture because all the time I see goofy mug shots on the news and I wouldn't want to draw any more attention to myself by smiling or sticking my tongue out haha
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VivaLaMushie said: I would rather just comply and keep my eyes open, not do anything stupid in the picture because all the time I see goofy mug shots on the news and I wouldn't want to draw any more attention to myself by smiling or sticking my tongue out haha
No, I'm not talking about taking a goofy mug shot. I'm talking about positioning your head in such a way as to not allow them to get a proper mug shot. Or, refuse to take one at all! What would happen then?
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they make you take a good one, eyes need to open possily to see eye color. But they wont bok you without a few good shots
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Yep, if you want to play it like you have nothing to hide, you definitely don't want to be an asshole when getting your mugshot. You must remember that you still have your date in court if you're trying to fight the arrest or charges. I'm pretty sure that if the mugshot isn't to their liking they will make you take another.
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VivaLaMushie said: I would rather just comply and keep my eyes open, not do anything stupid in the picture because all the time I see goofy mug shots on the news and I wouldn't want to draw any more attention to myself by smiling or sticking my tongue out haha
No, I'm not talking about taking a goofy mug shot. I'm talking about positioning your head in such a way as to not allow them to get a proper mug shot. Or, refuse to take one at all! What would happen then?

Youd never get away with that, hey need it on file. Then when your in jail since you have no ID how will they have proof of who you are?
Every time I 've been booked they wouldnt allow a shitty mugshot
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Re: Mug shots [Re: mylfgur]
#18738333 - 08/21/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah but guys, what can they do if you absolutely refuse to take one? Or at least a good one? You're already in jail!
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Re: Mug shots [Re: Learyfan] 1
#18738344 - 08/21/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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You get spartan kicked.
Another idea might be to make a fake ID and wear a very high grade face mask, when you get out of jail take it off. Finger prints and DNA would be an issue
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Re: Mug shots [Re: Learyfan] 1
#18738353 - 08/21/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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They will make you do it. They'll probs taze you if you're an asshole, prop you up on a broom then tape your eyes open.
You're not gonna get to do it your way
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Learyfan said: Yeah but guys, what can they do if you absolutely refuse to take one? Or at least a good one? You're already in jail!

If that happens you'll probably get slapped with extra charges until you comply. If you continue to refuse to comply you'll probably be sent to a psychiatric ward and drugged until they caN get a decent photo out of you.
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They throw your ass in the bubble. trust me you dont wanna be doin that shit
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Re: Mug shots [Re: mylfgur]
#18738386 - 08/21/13 04:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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mylfgur said: If that happens you'll probably get slapped with extra charges until you comply. If you continue to refuse to comply you'll probably be sent to a psychiatric ward and drugged until they caN get a decent photo out of you.
I've never been to jail, much less tried it before, but what you say sounds right to me. If you respectfully decline, I doubt they'd beat your ass to get a mug shot. But I'd take the extra jail time just to not be in those mug shot papers like Crime Times and whatnot.
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Learyfan said: Or, refuse to take one at all! What would happen then?
You would probably get a time out in the chair.
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I was too fucked up to remember my first mugshot, second time I just wanted it to go smoothly. When you are being processed you want it to go as quickly as possible, so it'd be pointless to piss of the cops and mess around while doing your prints or shots. Because then they'll make you sit in holding or whatever for hours while they bullshit. So you'll just be stuck in there longer
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Re: Mug shots [Re: Legend]
#18738426 - 08/21/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wonder if they'd actually restrain you in a chair or whatever if you were polite about it. But yeah, I just wouldn't want to be in Crime Times. I wouldn't want everyone in town seeing that. I think I'd rather do more time than to be publicly humiliated.
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Re: Mug shots [Re: Learyfan] 3
#18738448 - 08/21/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Learyfan, I think you're missing the point. There is no way around getting a proper mugshot. You can delay it for as long as you want but if you're charged, your mug is going to be shot one way or another.
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Re: Mug shots [Re: mylfgur]
#18738452 - 08/21/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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They have all sorts of ways to mess with you in jail.
Who're you gonna call for help? No one. Cause the phones don't fucking work in jail.
I honestly do not think you'll understand how jail works till you get sent to one
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Re: Mug shots [Re: Legend] 1
#18738460 - 08/21/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Legend said: They have all sorts of ways to mess with you in jail.
Who're you gonna call for help? No one. Cause the phones don't fucking work in jail.
I honestly do not think you'll understand how jail works till you get sent to one

Excuse me but what are you talking about right now? I don't see the relevance to the broader topic.
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Yea it's best to comply. I think I've had 4 mug shots and they say eyes forward, no smiling. This was back when 35 mm was king.


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Re: Mug shots [Re: mylfgur]
#18738490 - 08/21/13 04:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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But perhaps if you delayed it as long as possible, you wouldn't make Crime Times or those crime websites. Do you really think they'd restrain you and make you take one?
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Re: Mug shots [Re: Legend] 1
#18738492 - 08/21/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yup, either way they're going to get that mugshot.
You have no power in jail, OP. The cops do.
The best thing to do is to submit and get it over with.
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Best option is to just look suave as all hell.
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Re: Mug shots [Re: Learyfan] 1
#18738500 - 08/21/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Learyfan said: But perhaps if you delayed it as long as possible, you wouldn't make Crime Times or those crime websites. Do you really think they'd restrain you and make you take one?
What are you smoking dude?
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I just fapped to your picture
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Re: Mug shots [Re: Legend]
#18738504 - 08/21/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Legend said: I honestly do not think you'll understand how jail works till you get sent to one
I guess I believe you guys, I just think you've never seen someone decline the mug shot and therefore don't know that it's possible to get away from doing it or doing it correctly? Maybe? 
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i dont see it as some unfound loophole. odds are, they just make you do it. or, if you don't, its resisting, and they either (a) tack onto your problems or (b) taze you
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Repertoire89 said: What are you smoking dude?
I'm just asking questions. You guys know about jail, but you've never seen someone (politely) refuse to take a mug shot. Maybe in this one instance, you aren't correct and there's a way around it. Maybe. I don't know.
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Everyone is right Learyfan, the cops didn't mess around when I got brought in, and being a dick is just gonna make it harder on you.
AND IF JIM MORRISON DIDN'T GET AWAY WITH IT THEN NOBODY WILL.
Plus, ever since getting out of jail I've never once been able to find a copy of my mugshot, so you probably shouldn't worry too much.
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Repertoire89 said: What are you smoking dude?
I'm just asking questions. You guys know about jail, but you've never seen someone (politely) refuse to take a mug shot. Maybe in this one instance, you aren't correct and there's a way around it. Maybe. I don't know.
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Hey depending on who you are, how you acted, what you're in for, the cops mood, etc. You may be able to get away with being silly, but you have to have one taken. As far as I know. If this sheds any light on the situation, when you go into jail you gotta get naked and have a cop search you But since I was being nice one time, the dude didn't watch me shower or anything. Just let me change out of my clothes in peace. So it depends in the cop, situation, too many variables. I don't doubt someone has gotten away with no mugshot, or silly ones.
I just know what I personally have experienced in jail.
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Re: Mug shots [Re: Learyfan] 1
#18738542 - 08/21/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dude, the shot is part of the process.
Their goal is to process you and put you in your cell.
If you delay that process or refuse they will do everything in their power to subdue you and force you to do it.
There's no way around it.
You can act like their best friend, but once you're in that cell they won't acknowledge you at all. You could slap and punch the glass and all you'll hear is them shooting the shit.
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Hopefully it'll never come up. This is just hypothetical. And you may not be able to find your picture now, but I see people I know or went to school with in Crime Times all the time. It's at most supermarkets and convenience stores. I'd hate to be in one of those.
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Re: Mug shots [Re: Limb0]
#18738555 - 08/21/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Limb0 said: Dude, the shot is part of the process.
Their goal is to process you and put you in your cell.
If you delay that process or refuse they will do everything in their power to subdue you and force you to do it.
There's no way around it.
You can act like their best friend, but once you're in that cell they won't acknowledge you at all. You could slap and punch the glass and all you'll hear is them shooting the shit.
True that. But honestly they like to make you wait really long while they munch out and bullshit.
I really fucking hate how they don't give two fucks about you in jail.
I do have to say tho, young cops are usually nice.
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mushroom_sandwich said:... I've never once been able to find a copy of my mugshot, so you probably shouldn't worry too much.
I tried to get mine, no luck.. I didn't quite go the FOIA route. I think if you resist, even politely, your mug shot may look some thing like this.

At least he has one eye kinda open.
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Re: Mug shots [Re: vinsue]
#18738598 - 08/21/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah online my mugshot is blank, I kind of wanna see mine though.
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Re: Mug shots [Re: Legend] 1
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Why should they care about you? You're in jail. I think it's absurd when inmates bitch and wine in jail because they're not staying in a hotel or something. It's jail. You messed up and now you have to pay the consequences. There's no dignity in bitching about it. It was your choice to begin with.
In El Paso, they posted my mugshot on a website and possibly in a facebook group. All you have to do is search my name in google images and it pops up. It's not what I would have wanted, but O well. Sure makes finding a job a little bit harder though.
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Dr. Crapsghetti said: You messed up
Allegedly messed up. 
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When I was arrested there was this lady in there getting her mug shot and she wouldn't cooperate, wouldn't hold her head up, etc. They just waited and yelled at her to knock her shit off. Took them about 45 min to get the picture they wanted haha
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Anyone who bitches and wines would get fucked with. I've been in both county and state jail in TX. And I'm just saying jail is pretty fucked if you're in it for bullshit reasons. I mean county isn't bad, state is like a cross between boot camp and high school. But who would enjoy that? No one. So I mean bitching about it months later doesn't seem odd to me. Get off your high horse man.
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Re: Mug shots [Re: Legend]
#18738742 - 08/21/13 05:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I am relating my own experience. Some people did complain, walk around and keep everyone else up. I don't think it was too harsh or that the punishment was excessive by any means. I didn't enjoy it, but it definitely smartened me up a little bit and I don't regret it. I was just there for a DWI, and most people I was with were there for the same.
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Yeah i think jail did me good. Gave me time to think.
Don't plan on going back though.
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Re: Mug shots [Re: Legend]
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Definitely not. I didn't even think I would end up in jail from my first DWI, but I did and they take that offense very seriously, at least in Texas. One guy I was with was given 10 years probation because of his third DWI. Once you hit the 3rd, they will fuck you for life. I suppose that gives some leeway for bitching. That seems excessive, but these guys already had their second and knew what was waiting for them. I don't agree with it though.
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Well, I guess you guys could be right about the mug shot thing. I don't know for sure, but I believe you guys.
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Dr. Crapsghetti said: I don't think it was too harsh or that the punishment was excessive by any means.
Jails are filled to the brim with drug offenders, even the very slightest punishment for something which shouldn't be illegal is excessive. A ticket is absurdly excessive and unjust let alone being locked in a cage
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