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eMpire420
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Just got some Syrian Rue
#18737675 - 08/21/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just got some Syrian Rue for shroom potentiation, mostly. So, I have a few questions about this plant..
I received a bag of brown (what looks like) seeds. They're already pretty tiny, do I need to grind them further before making tea? I hear that you have to grind it, but they already seem pretty tiny! I can't tell if it's grinded up seeds, or if the seeds are just tiny brown things.
Is this plant at all related to the cacao plants? It smells just like Cocoa, I swear!
Best ROA is just to drink a brewed tea? Is there any other way to receive the mild psychoactive & MAOI effects?
Thanks for the help guys
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Re: Just got some Syrian Rue [Re: eMpire420]
#18737716 - 08/21/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ugh. Syrian Rue... Just the smell makes me gag.
Anyways, the seeds are very small, and grinding them would help for the onset of the MAOi (molecular availability, surface area, etc.)
Tea should be the easiest way to slide those things down.
That's about it. Have fun!
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Re: Just got some Syrian Rue [Re: eMpire420]
#18737738 - 08/21/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I always just took a mortar and pestle to grind to a powder then put my doses in gel caps, this shit tastes like death. Other then that I'd say to look up extractions as they are a lot easier on the old stomach. I always loved how these things stretch out the peak structure.
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Re: Just got some Syrian Rue [Re: Caboose]
#18737746 - 08/21/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Unground seeds straight up won't work.
Tried it with morning glory seeds once.
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ChillbroSwaggins

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Doesn't this help exponentially with potency? I've heard about using this with dmt, but not familiar with mushrooms
Is it worth trying?
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Oh, most definitely.
These things (like any MAOi) will bring low doses to a mid to high range generally.
They work the same with any tryptamine, and phenethylamines if I'm not mistaking.
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Quote:
Caboose said: Ugh. Syrian Rue... Just the smell makes me gag.
Anyways, the seeds are very small, and grinding them would help for the onset of the MAOi (molecular availability, surface area, etc.)
Tea should be the easiest way to slide those things down.
That's about it. Have fun!
Are you serious? They smell delicious to me! It smells like fresh cocoa. So coffee grinder is probably the best thing to use to grind them?
Thanks a lot for the info!Quote:
ChillbroSwaggins said: Doesn't this help exponentially with potency? I've heard about using this with dmt, but not familiar with mushrooms
Is it worth trying?
Yes, it potentiates most psychedelics. I've heard it also increases the mood of your trips to feel a little more like a hippy flip, due to the antidepressant qualities of the Rue. From a few of my friends, I've heard that Rue can make a 2g shroom trip feel like 3.5-4g. I was able to pick up an ounce for under $5, so I figured why the hell not experiment.
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Re: Just got some Syrian Rue [Re: eMpire420]
#18737817 - 08/21/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lmfao! You will hate that smell after the first time you purge.
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Re: Just got some Syrian Rue [Re: eMpire420]
#18737823 - 08/21/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I didn't find the smell all too bad. Until I pulverized and tried to swallow them. Nope, nope, nope, nope.
Never again without a gel capsule keeping that powder away from my taste buds.
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Re: Just got some Syrian Rue [Re: Caboose]
#18737853 - 08/21/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Caboose said: I didn't find the smell all too bad. Until I pulverized and tried to swallow them. Nope, nope, nope, nope.
Never again without a gel capsule keeping that powder away from my taste buds.
Hahaha! Well I'll experiment in the kitchen, I'll come up with a brew that's painless to get down. Is it advisable to take before shrooms? i.e., I can't make a single brew for both, right? Just curious, I wouldn't mind making shroom+rue chocolates.
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Re: Just got some Syrian Rue [Re: eMpire420]
#18737885 - 08/21/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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You should generally take your rue about 30-45 minutes beforehand, but you can play with it a bit.
The goal is to line up the full feeling of Rue with the peak of your trip, so keep that in mind.
Depending on your route of administration, you might be able to take them simultaneously, but you can expect your come up to be like a roller coaster in darkness. Just when you think you're peaking... HOLY SHIT I WAS WRONG.
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Re: Just got some Syrian Rue [Re: eMpire420]
#18737959 - 08/21/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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So these things make you purge every time or just sometimes
I'm not much for puking and tripping. One of the reasons I'm hesitant to try san Pedro
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ChillbroSwaggins said: So these things make you purge every time or just sometimes
I'm not much for puking and tripping. One of the reasons I'm hesitant to try san Pedro
They definitely give some stomach discomfort, but it you can handle the taste of getting them down, or you are decent at keeping your mind from looping about nausea, you should be fine.
If you are really worried about purging, you can always try something like ginger, or lemon essential oil. That should also do the trick.
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Re: Just got some Syrian Rue [Re: Caboose]
#18738061 - 08/21/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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All I can say is that if you do not grind them, nothing will happen. Tried twice, was supposed to be a huge dose, nooothing happened.
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Re: Just got some Syrian Rue [Re: Caboose]
#18738078 - 08/21/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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word. I may give them a try sometime. I know I would like to find a way to stretch my mushrooms out a bit
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I suggest taking a dose of syrian rue by itself if you've never tried it before.
I recently took a 5gram syrian rue brew(reduced down to one shot). I saw some pretty neat stuff. But I was purging out both ends for about 2 1/2 hours until my system was COMPLETELY cleaned out and I could fall asleep.
Lying down helps with nausea as well as hands on knees in the puke position.
I learned I probably only need half of what I took.
Thx Syrian Rue, you kicked my ass.
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eMpire420
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Quote:
MystiqueMushroom said: I suggest taking a dose of syrian rue by itself if you've never tried it before.
I recently took a 5gram syrian rue brew(reduced down to one shot). I saw some pretty neat stuff. But I was purging out both ends for about 2 1/2 hours until my system was COMPLETELY cleaned out and I could fall asleep.
Lying down helps with nausea as well as hands on knees in the puke position.
I learned I probably only need half of what I took.
Thx Syrian Rue, you kicked my ass.
Damn, is it really that bad? Is it the same "cleansing" feeling you get by purging on shrooms?
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Re: Just got some Syrian Rue [Re: eMpire420]
#18739755 - 08/21/13 08:56 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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eMpire420 said:
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MystiqueMushroom said: I suggest taking a dose of syrian rue by itself if you've never tried it before.
I recently took a 5gram syrian rue brew(reduced down to one shot). I saw some pretty neat stuff. But I was purging out both ends for about 2 1/2 hours until my system was COMPLETELY cleaned out and I could fall asleep.
Lying down helps with nausea as well as hands on knees in the puke position.
I learned I probably only need half of what I took.
Thx Syrian Rue, you kicked my ass.
Damn, is it really that bad? Is it the same "cleansing" feeling you get by purging on shrooms?
I think the 5g was wayyy more than I needed to inhibit maois. Which is why I think it gave me such a ride. Not that I regret doing it, wasn't that bad tbh and I felt amazing when I woke up. Gut hurt from wretching for 2-3 hours but mentally +++. I'm not sure if it has the same cleansing feeling as when purging on mushrooms.
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I took around 7 grams and saw the most intense tracers of my life; was very sedated and fairly nauseous but no puking (I filtered the tea pretty darn well).
Now my dose is 1.5 grams crushed and encapsulated; washed down with 3 grams worth of filtered tea (crush, simmer and stir 30 minutes with a dash of lemon juice - reduced to a shot it does taste bad).
I take my Rue 35-40 minutes before the adjunct.
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Re: Just got some Syrian Rue [Re: flickedbic]
#18740203 - 08/21/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I drank some Rue at a festival recently. Shit tasted like foul dirt brew. I smoked some nn-dmt freebase 45 minutes later. Needless to say, I can not describe what happened in modern english. It was the single most definitive psychedelic experience for me thus far.
Good luck, to the Rue and you!
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