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chants or jack O lanterns
    #18736789 - 08/21/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Found these growing near base of old decaying stump.They were in a bit of a cluster although some were growing away from the stump over the roots. They are very large ...the biggest was 10" long. The gills appear to be sharp and not like the smaller chantrelles that I have found. These were very bright orange and left a stain on fingers after handling. Found in SC Pa.forest in mixed woods.
The thing that threw me was the fruity smell...it was quite pronounced and similar to apricot. I was leaning toward the Jacks because of sharp  gills. Also, the gills forked at the last segment toward the outer edge. They also did not seem to give a print, at least, none that I could identify after 12 hrs.:shrug:Any TI help would be nice. I did not eat any of these...they are in pretty bad shape...eaten up by bugs and such. Here are some other finds....I think the little cone orange one is a enteloma sp? also notice the huge bicolor bolete....that is a quarter in the center.


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Re: chants or jack O lanterns [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #18736803 - 08/21/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Thats Ompalatus illudens. Go ahead and number the seperate species. You also have some Boletes and Entoloma. That last one looks really cool.


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Re: chants or jack O lanterns [Re: domesticgnome]
    #18736856 - 08/21/13 10:47 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks gnome...thought so. I will number them. I thought the last one may be a earth star before opening....did not have a chance to go back to spot.


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Re: chants or jack O lanterns [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #18736915 - 08/21/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Found these growing near base of old decaying stump.They were in a bit of a cluster although some were growing away from the stump over the roots. They are very large ...the biggest was 10" long. The gills appear to be sharp and not like the smaller chantrelles that I have found. These were very bright orange and left a stain on fingers after handling. Found in SC Pa.forest in mixed woods.
The thing that threw me was the fruity smell...it was quite pronounced and similar to apricot. I was leaning toward the Jacks because of sharp  gills. Also, the gills forked at the last segment toward the outer edge. They also did not seem to give a print, at least, none that I could identify after 12 hrs.:shrug:Any TI help would be nice. I did not eat any of these...they are in pretty bad shape...eaten up by bugs and such.1) 2) 3) 4) 5) 6) Here are some other finds....I think the little cone orange one is a enteloma sp? also notice the huge bicolor bolete....that is a quarter in the center.



got the numbers the best I could...all were found in mountain hollow...#1 was bright yellow...possibly some sort of amanita ? # 2 printed white , #3 was the enteloma,I think, #4 printed a rust brown color and was growing on a birch log, #5 was huge bicolor bolete and #6 was very unique...maybe a earthstar that did not open. Thanks for all your help!


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Re: chants or jack O lanterns [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #18736950 - 08/21/13 11:08 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

#6 looks like a monotropa?  Hard to tell how that's gonna open up...


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Re: chants or jack O lanterns [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #18736965 - 08/21/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I'm pulling for Cantharellus appalachiensis :smile: Or something like that. PA might be a bit north. I found something like yours yesterday, but they were old and stinky, and not nearly that bright.

Aren't jack-o-lanterns supposed to have no smell?


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Re: chants or jack O lanterns [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #18736976 - 08/21/13 11:15 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm pulling for Cantharellus appalachiensis :smile: Or something like that. PA might be a bit north. I found something like yours yesterday, but they were old and stinky, and not nearly that bright.

Aren't jack-o-lanterns supposed to have no smell?



Yeah, Buffalo....that is what I read in the field guide ...these deff had fruity smell....confirmed by girlfriend. That is why I'm not sure...hadn't heard of that sub appalachiensis, though. Thanks for input.:smile:


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Re: chants or jack O lanterns [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #18737393 - 08/21/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Can you take a pic of the gills?


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Re: chants or jack O lanterns [Re: pouihi]
    #18737419 - 08/21/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

2) looks like an Amanita, some type of grisette maybe


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Re: chants or jack O lanterns [Re: pouihi]
    #18737630 - 08/21/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Can you take a pic of the gills?



Sorry pouihi....they're 100 miles away till weekend.


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Re: chants or jack O lanterns [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #18737704 - 08/21/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Id say they are some sort of Omphalotus, certainly not a Chanterelle.  Your last one looks like a baby "Audrey II" from Little Shop of Horrors!  :grin:




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Re: chants or jack O lanterns [Re: pouihi]
    #18737808 - 08/21/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Aren't jack-o-lanterns supposed to have no smell?




IDK how Jack-o-lanterns (Omphalotus olearius) smell cause I've never thought about it when I've seen them; BUT I'll definatly check that out next time. Chanterelles have a delicious earthy-apricot smell to them; somtimes you can smell the patch before you find it. 

Also Jack-o-lanterns have gills rather than false gills (Chant.)


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Can you take a pic of the gills?


 
X2....  I'm 99.9 Percent sure they're Omphalotus olearius & I WOULD NOT EAT THEM.

Further pictures of the gills should clear it up


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Re: chants or jack O lanterns [Re: pouihi]
    #18737890 - 08/21/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Can you take pics of the pores and stem of yer boletes? And see if the pores or stem bruise. Well, the little nugget looks like it's still a nugget, but bruising it, slicing it, etc. may help.

I've resolved that I'm going to have to become an expert on boletes, because I think most if the folks here don't find all that many out in the wild, as it were--and that's practically all I find.

The monster one is bonerrific! :awesome:


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Re: chants or jack O lanterns [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #18737912 - 08/21/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Ompalatus have a frangrant/fuity smell.


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Re: chants or jack O lanterns [Re: domesticgnome]
    #18738288 - 08/21/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks everybody....I don't have the mushrooms with me...they are 100 miles away....did not pick the bolete,  although, I will say that the underside was yellow...I believe it to be a bicolor variety...never saw one anywhere near that size though. Also, there were smaller ones a few feet away.
As far as the big orange guys...I am leaning toward the Jacks because after perusing all 4 of my field guides, I studied the gills ....they were very sharp and flat...not like the soft roll of the chantrelles. The only reason that I ever questioned them was because of the fruity odor. I didn't plan on eating them either way because they were pretty eaten up by bugs. Thanks everyone! I love this hobby!:dancingshroom:


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Re: chants or jack O lanterns [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #18738290 - 08/21/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

If you can get a spore print that should help. Also, chants are mycorrhizal and jack-o-lanterns are saprobic--was it actually growing out of dead wood? If not, it could still be either, but if it was, it's a jack-o-lantern. What about slicing it? I understand that jack-o-lanterns are lighter on the inside and the flesh of chanterelles is the same throughout. I dunno guys, the apricot smell is convincing. Somebody was saying yesterday that jack-o-lanterns smell like death, but I've read that they don't smell like anything. I've never personally sniffed one, so I can't vouch.


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Re: chants or jack O lanterns [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #18738357 - 08/21/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

wasn't growing directly from wood but was just a thin layer of peat between them. Also, they were pretty bunched together....like I said, everything pointed to the jacks except the odor.:shrug: The spore print was either white or it didn't print....had over white paper for 12 plus hrs.


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