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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: Satanschild]
    #18731230 - 08/20/13 07:53 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Any experiences with taking salvia sublingual?



I tried quids a few times, for me they didn't do much. The taste is quite bitter, especially seeing how you have to hold the leaves in your mouth for quite a while. I also suspect the Salvinorin being absorbed that way is negligible. Nothing like smoking.

Haven't tried more concentrated extracts, that might work much better. If I could have smokeless salvia in some form, that would be absolutely amazing!


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: Spacerific]
    #18731562 - 08/20/13 10:11 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I am trying some x5 right now, don't know how much I should dose but we'll see what happens... The taste is rather nice. :thumbup:


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: Satanschild]
    #18731774 - 08/20/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I think its fair to note that although salvia only lasts 30 minutes tops, you will feel the drain of an 8 hour acid trip. Atleast thats how I feel after a good sally experience. Still havent gone all the way to salvia land, but even so its quite nifty.

Salvia isnt quite fun, and its not exactly scary, its simply interesting.


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: Delarge]
    #18731826 - 08/20/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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i saw the birth of a new universe man.  :aum:

my universe.




Im so glad to see that other people have the capacity to at least attempt to understand salvia,
It bothers me when people just see it as a "legal high" and use it to try and get fucked up. People who go into it with that mindset will ALWAYS be disappointed or overwhelmed.
They ruin it for themselves and others.

Thank you to those who use it for what it can teach you.
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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: Satanschild]
    #18732291 - 08/20/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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What extract do you usually smoke

And do leaves do the same for you now as it?



I still have some 10x I believe (lost the label on the bag years ago, I think it's 10x) but I mostly use that for others, first timers. If I use it at all, it's only by adding a little bit to some basic leaf. I really get a much stronger reaction out of Salvia now, compared to my first trips. I'd say yes, the leaves work in the exact way as the extracts. Same direction. Visuals, body feel, everything's about the same. 3 good tokes of leaf and it's space travel time :biggrin:

Scale I have, and I live in Europe, the shipping would cost me 5 times more than the lighter if I ordered it on the net. Will find a new one here locally, just need to search some more.




Postage to eu is free iirc from dx
Maybe 5 bucks for quality torch with postage
Or 3 for one that breaks with time

Scale is cheap postage too  everything there is

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Satanschild said:
Any experiences with taking salvia sublingual?



Yup
No effect here tried 5 times  both extract and leaves
Very bitter can still taste it I think
It worked combining grav bong smoked and sublingual
Floor bent around my legs 30 degrees hard to get back to living room from the kitchen
Acid like morphing room visuals

Leaves have no effect on me either till i have smoked extract
Exceptlight visuals  and stoned
Good for meditation I guess

Had 3 long lucid dreams after salvia once in 3 hours sleep or so
Usually only have one if lucky


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: lessismore]
    #18732301 - 08/20/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Tribes in South America/Mexico/Central America in the olden times used to chew on the leaves almost as much as they smoked them. Larger amounts were necessary, but similar states of mind can be achieved. I'm sure smoking is the most extreme though.


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18735659 - 08/21/13 03:19 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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I think its fair to note that although salvia only lasts 30 minutes tops, you will feel the drain of an 8 hour acid trip. Atleast thats how I feel after a good sally experience. Still havent gone all the way to salvia land, but even so its quite nifty.

Salvia isnt quite fun, and its not exactly scary, its simply interesting.



I find this rather curious, as my experience at least has been very different. What kind of extract have you been smoking, what strength if I may ask? And what do you mean by drain?

Very strange that you've had experiences strong enough to leave you feeling any drain, yet not flood and immerse you completely in crazy visuals. The only times I can remember that I didn't break through, were experiments like putting salvia in a hookah, and putting a hookah coal on top, rather than burning it as one should. This made a smoke that gave me very weird / useless effects, just a weird body feel and dizziness, but I suspect no Salvinorin A to provide any visuals. Other than that, all the trips that had any effect at all, came with incredible teleports and identity dissolution in my case.

As for it being "not quite fun" again, I can't relate at all. Especially on extracts, both for me and most friends I've shared it with, Salvia provides some of the deepest laughter episodes I've ever encountered. I've literally had sore muscles around my ribs from sheer laughter, which has never happened with any stand up comedy show, ever. I'd call that pretty fun :lol:

I now have a rule that I don't smoke extracts if other people are present, as I'll just be overpowered by completely uncontrollable laughter, and the noise would ruin the others' trips.

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Postage to eu is free iirc from dx
Maybe 5 bucks for quality torch with postage
Or 3 for one that breaks with time



Holy smokes, you're right :biggrin:
Making an account and ordering right now. I had no idea at all about this site. Very useful!


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: Spacerific]
    #18737081 - 08/21/13 11:47 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Im using some questionable stength 10x.

I get a bit of salv grav, my mouth tends to hand wide open, and I get a small mindfuck and some wave like visuals.

I have no yet been to salvia land.

Ive done multile hits out of a pipe with a torch lighter and held it in.


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18737348 - 08/21/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Im using some questionable stength 10x.

I get a bit of salv grav, my mouth tends to hand wide open, and I get a small mindfuck and some wave like visuals.

I have no yet been to salvia land.

Ive done multile hits out of a pipe with a torch lighter and held it in.




First time I hit salvia in my glass pipe I barely felt a thing, just odd headspace for minutes. Second time I was like 'fuck it i'll be fine'. Packed a fat bong hit, used a windproof lighter, hit it in one. Counting...10...15...20...25-exhale.

Whole dimension collapsed in on itself upon exhaling.

Clear a bong in one and hold it for 25 sec -you will get there :laugh:


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18738023 - 08/21/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Im using some questionable stength 10x.

I get a bit of salv grav, my mouth tends to hand wide open, and I get a small mindfuck and some wave like visuals.

I have no yet been to salvia land.

Ive done multile hits out of a pipe with a torch lighter and held it in.



Ok this is what I wanted to get at. Especially if your extract might be weaker, then the smoking method really counts. You have to force in a lot of smoke in a short amount of time. Assuming you're using a windproof lighter and using it right, you CANNOT use a simple pipe, or you'll burn your throat. If you're using a pipe and not burning anything, I suspect you're not pulling or burning it enough.

To clarify - you have to not just light it up briefly to start it off, as you would with bud. You have to inhale like a man on a mission, AND continuously scorch that herb to kingdom come with the super hot flame. Your bowl should look like a fucking volcano. Pure lava. Without water cooling this WILL burn your throat if you pull it right. I have done this once by using a bong that was too small for the job. Here's my equipment from back then. Red bong worked AOK, that was my main space travel device for a long time. The smaller glass one burned my throat on a proper righteous inhale. Goes without saying that a normal pipe would burn even worse as it has no water.

So improvise a bong out of a bottle if you have to, add a few ice cubes, then burn the herb and pull it all in like your life depended on it. If there's any Salvinorin on those leaves it will work for you eventually. I think I got it right on my third try when starting out. First two were duds, then the third one went like







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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: Spacerific]
    #18738439 - 08/21/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

One for the thread:



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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: teenagehippie]
    #18738602 - 08/21/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

The graphic style reminds suspiciously of electric retard :lol:

In other news, I was considering a new thread about my upcoming salvia project, but I think this one will do. Basically I am out of all other psychedelics for a while, and so for at least a month, I will focus specifically on Salvia.

I started with it, then took a long wide detour through shrooms, acid, ayahuasca, mescaline, HWBR, and now here we are completing a full circle, back to Salvia again. I realize that the short-acting nature and specific vibe of it offers unique advantages. Planning to do it a lot over the coming month, and see exactly what kind of art comes out of it. There's a big goa party coming next month, I got some fluorescent textile paints, and now I need to make some space gear. Surely space travel and interdimensional teleports will help with that. Let's see how deep the rabbit hole goes.

Loading my mp3 player as we speak, for another trip. Hopefully my lighter won't crap out on me again. Ordered a good one on dealextreme, but until it arrives I'm stuck with a 30 cent super cheapo Chinese version, that may or may not be impossible to refill.

Should be an interesting month :lol:


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: teenagehippie]
    #18738762 - 08/21/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

love the comic


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: redgreenvines]
    #18738806 - 08/21/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

:whathesaid:

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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: teenagehippie]
    #18738846 - 08/21/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

holy fuck they're blue.!!!:blueangel:


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: Delarge]
    #18740062 - 08/21/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

All right, first mini trip done. 3-4 long deep hits with basic leaf. This hookah cools like it's nobody's business. I couldn't even feel the smoke, but my lungs were full with it, thick white smoke on the exhale.

Went traveling for a good 30 minutes at least, to this internal place I've seen before, many times, just didn't really have a name for it. It was now called the Wide Open Space Where Things Happen. That is, you put your head on the pillow, and immediately become one with the bed, then one with something completely different. Sometimes the soil in that place, or part of some building, or part of some indecipherable component, of some other indecipherable larger device, that does something.



Activity is happening. These entities may be carrying nutrients to some other place, after some harvest. They may be in some far away techno-rural village, going about their proper well behaved well educated business, as our kids might do in our villages. They just have way more antennae and fractalic surfaces :lol:

Immediately the relation to self changes dramatically, totally. It goes from being a homo sapiens on a bed in a room on planet Earth, to the non-vertebrate, non-eyeball having homogenous mildly sentient glue that holds the bricks together in an alien wall, the pipeline that guides some sort of liquids through an engine or the ax of a wheel in a strange vehicle carrying some harvest to who knows where, to pay some medieval type of tax, in a very different dimension from ours. Visually it's nothing like here, all the rules and perceptions and even the thoughts are quite different.

I am watching what looks like hyper complex 3D fractals, but feels like two young teens going home on a road, riding Chinese bycicles, next to a red Chinese barn and tractor in a potato field. I am the soil looking up from under the red-magenta potato leaves, I feel the potato plants growing pleasantly from where the back of my head fades seamlessly into the dreamy soil, providing shade with their leaves as they are moving slightly in the breeze. The sky and horizon have pointillist patterns, cream yellow lemon green colors and gradients, fading and shifting slowly, calmly. Beautiful sunny summer day.



I see scenes with vast swarms of zeppelins and air ships, with that same mechanical+living vibe about them, filling the sky in a vast ecosystem. Buildings get created in mid-air, segment by segment, room by room. There are no straight lines, there are no simple planes. Everything is curved, ornate, shimmering and reflecting. Looking like video games, cartoons, hyper-realities, paintings, animations, etc.

Vast crevasses downwards are filled with non-human balconies, windows, all manner of undecipherable devices, openings and protuberances, from what might be buildings, or just as well the living breathing skin cells of a vast hyper-being. Things glow, membranes wave, soap-bubble like rainbow colored transparent liquid screens form amazing objects. Sharp colors give a sense of cleanliness, orderliness and mirth to the whole scene. There's no dust, there are no particles, everything seems clean, smooth and shiny. I am shiny as well, because at no point was I a human looking at this from the outside. I was parts of various objects making up the scene, looking from my surface to others like it.

Movements become identities. The forward motion of an object is as alive and sentient as we assume beings to be sentient over here. The object might be lifeless, but the motion itself is alive and sentient, and there's a dialog going on between me, the forward or left motion, and backward and right motion. The front surface of a lifeless object has a complete sentient identity, that is completely distinct from the other side of the same object. Awareness and identity are connected by different rules to matter, not at all like here. Strange wonderful amazing lands.

30 minutes of this goes on, and my body is absolutely motionless for most of this time, relaxed to the max. Not a finger moving, not a partial blink, not a shift from left to right or anything. As I get back to remembering the room, planet Earth and where and what I am, I can consider the rooms of the house, think about them, invest mental effort in whatever needs thinking about, but I am not even considering physical movement. 30 minutes of stillness and chill orbital gliding, in a head that's usually too busy, chattering, filled with mental noise. Very very welcome experience for sure :biggrin:


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: Spacerific]
    #18740280 - 08/21/13 11:13 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I tried salvia only two days ago. But here's the catch, I brought what was apparently 'salvia' it was named 'Mary Joy UK Exodus Damnation' I was with a group of four friends and I decided to hit it first, obviously thinking it wasn't the correct shit, I packed a bowl in a chillum and lit it up with a windproof lighter.

After I took a huge hit I held it in for like 30 seconds, maybe even passed that time mark. Now, me being me I like to think I knew more about salvia than the group of friends I was with and was confidently saying 'I don't think this is salvia, its not gonna hit the same' (this is after trying to find reviews/trip reports etc, I wasn't trying to scare my friends) anywhow, a lot of research prior too doing this played a key role, but none of the videos/pieces of information came close to experiencing what I felt.

Back to the smoking anyhow, me and my friend brought a chillum each (2 chillums between 4 people) and had the first experience while in my room. I went a few minutes before my friend as the other 2 friends were sitting us. Anyway, I got my scales and weighed up around 0.18, took out 2 stalks (the product looked just like grinded weed may I add but smelt like strawberry yoghurt)  out and added some more of the herb to make up for it, stalks weighed around .05, I halved this amount and filled my chillum with it and squashed it down so it was more compact, my friend did the same. I took the first hit and held it in like I previously stated and rocked back towards my wall, my head hit my bed and I was pretty comfy, 5 seconds later I started making weird laughing noises like everything was funny. The thing that was weirdest was it didn't sound like me? And was extremely frightening. At this point my friends were repeating things such as 'really, really, omg' as if to say this bunk looking stuff actually works. About 20 seconds passed of the weird noises and that was it, I can only remember slight details butt I'll try describe them as good as I can. I was somewhere random, didn't have a clue, but not like a place or building I was in my mind so to speak, and there was lots of other minds too (don't know who's and I couldn't see them) anyway, my life kinda began flashing before me and one of the only things I can perfectly remember is that I accepted myself to be dead, I thought of lots of stuff that involved family etc and it was just too much. I remember trying to block this out but everything was moving really quickly and these minds were attacking me so to speak, really not a good experience. I remember coming back looking at 2 of my friends - I had no idea who they was, I didn't even realise I was in my room, despite how obvious it was (I have distinctive posters that I could see) also, when looking at my 2 friends (the sitters) I was questioning who they were, and it was really f****ed up by this point. Note: I didn't see my other friend for some reason, maybe cause he was tripping too? About 5 minutes passed and I could hear 'he's coming down now he's just confused' and I was staring at these people, I thought it wasn't real. I also remember this pretty well but its hard to explain and I would love to know if anyone else has/had this experience, after all the bad went away my trip fast forwarded; like really fast. And I opened my eyes after that and I wasn't aware it was me in my body, I thought I was someone else and these people just looked a lot like my friends. After that, it happened again; a second time. Things sped up really fast and I just fell into reality my room looked brighter and I was still in denial if it was my room and if these were my friends. Let me tell you after I realised these was my friends and this is my room I kinda freaked out. I was also sick 4 times after the experience and I doubt I'll forget it for a while, I also was quite upset and randomly cried for no longer than 10 seconds.

If anyone is wondering my friends claimed to have cliche trips with warps and weird colours but that was after they had it. One of them later text me saying how he 'had to survive'.

Salvia is a really weird experience so approach it with caution. I probably will experiment with this again but not anytime soon.

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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: shroomlowie]
    #18740390 - 08/21/13 11:51 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for sharing.

Look here's my Salvia guide, what works well for me at least. I recommend you go and use that as a checklist, and just count how many things you got right, how many you got wrong in that room.

IMO you got the lighter right, maybe the chillum, since you obviously had enough Salvinorin giving you a trip. So no problems there. Then the light in the room, unknown. The eyes, sounds like you didn't really know you have to close them and keep them closed throughout. No problem, you learned it now the hard way. Open eyes do tend to make your trip weird. Music, doesn't sound like you had headphones, and they make a world of difference. You did mention you heard your sitter's voices, which IMO is a big no-no, as it interrupts the flow and drags you back, maybe even makes you open your eyes before the trip is over. It's like trying to get a good night's sleep with people talking in the room. It doesn't mean that sleep doesn't work, it means you're trying to do it with too much noise around.

So on and so forth. Just go through the full list and add them all up. Salvia is usually great if you do it right, and if you don't, then the light will sting you, your open eyes will freak you out, noise will interrupt you, the lack of proper music will give you weird vibes or strange visions, etc. I've done all of them before, hence the long list of how I like to trip. Everything that's there has a reason for being there, usually a crappy trip/good learning experience.

What you felt internally is of less importance IMO, I suspect most of the bad feelings were due to open eyes, too much light, too much noise, unclear music. The parts about you coming back, seeing your room, feeling weird and crying, I'd say that's standard. As in, you likely still had Salvinorin in your system. Your eyes should stay closed and no light should hit them, not even through closed eyelids. Open your eyes in that state and you'll start feeling annoyed, strange, alone, all manner of bad vibes. While on Salvinorin you shouldn't be in your body staring at your room, but far far away swimming with the manatees out in fractal space :lol:

You do need sitters that know to shut up for as long as it takes, and yours didn't. Do it right and you should see quite a bit of difference.

Good vibes :heart:

EDIT: Oh and for the love of all tripping gods do smoke it one at a time, not two like you did. As you've seen people can laugh during trips. You laughed a little. Some people laugh until their ribs hurt. Now imagine being the other guy in the room, trying to have a quiet mellow trip, when all hell breaks loose around you, with a million demons laughing hysterically in your head, while you're trying to make sense of the insect wars out there. Not cool. Really not cool, trust me.

One smoking device, and smoke one at a time. It's not a group experience, it's fully internal and different for every person.


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: Spacerific]
    #18740521 - 08/22/13 12:35 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I actaully unintentionally ticked a lot of those things except for the light (I wasn't aware of light, dark, night or day or anything so can you explain how that helps) and the music, this was because I read somewhere that it ruins it? I see this could be a heavy debate where preferences differ. Also when my eyes were open it was only as I was coming out. Has anyone ever had the experience where everything goes fast just before you fall into reality? Also I forgot to include this, it took me at least 10 minutes just to understand how I got in my room? I don't remember going up my stairs? Buying the salvia? Going to get it? Who my friends were, nothing. I also heard my dog barking and it took a while to realise I have a dog? Why was this? Everythings clear now of course just a really big mindfuck.

I know I keep mentioning it but I'm sure someone has had the experience where everything goes fast at the end, and you fall into reality and it happens again? And its like its not you? Like the only time you've been in the room your in and the people in the room were total strangers.

Also, we done it at the same time because my friend was only comfortable doing it if his friend was doing it. I didn't really mind hence me going first. Also, mindset was fine, like I said I wasn't sure if this was the real deal so I hit it with no tension or anything?

I can imagine it being a very good experience when done properly but I believe I did? Also one last thing, did I have a breakthrough? I think I did but it may not have been as intense as other breakthroughs? I definitely accepted I was gonna die and I kept thinking if I die in this dream world it means I'll be killed in the real life, by entities. I could also hear things saying my name, but not in a nice way. Oh no. Extremely scary.

Also, too the experienced users looking at this probably thinking its nothing etc it was something to me, especially not ever experiencing anything like this in my life. It was worse than my worst nightmares and a lot more vivid/easy to remember aftrwards. The confusion is also overwhelming.

BUT, and its a big but :wink: this could have been due to it being my first time, now I kinda know what its capable of I believe my experiences can only be somewhat better.

Also, say I do it again in around a month, will I need less or the same? I understand it is reverse tolerant but how long does the tolerance last? Like when does it wear off.

Thanks guys, just feel the need to conversate with experienced users as this was a intense trip and I now actually feel like I had a near death experience and that I'm extremely lucky to be here. Life is definitely took for granted and it only appears to be precious at most when you think your dying. It has definitely altered my perception and my thoughts.


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: shroomlowie]
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Also when my eyes were open it was only as I was coming out.



When YOU THOUGHT you were coming out. Just because you remember who you are and what planet you're on again, doesn't mean all the Salvinorin cleared your system. Read the guide again, the part about keeping eyes closed.

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Has anyone ever had the experience where everything goes fast just before you fall into reality? Also I forgot to include this, it took me at least 10 minutes just to understand how I got in my room? I don't remember going up my stairs? Buying the salvia? Going to get it? Who my friends were, nothing.



Yeah. Because you still had Salvinorin in your system. You were only partially back. Your head was filled with memories from the trip. You're actually back when all the visuals stop, the body sensations stop and you know 100% what happened, where you are, etc. That's quite a while after the Roller Coaster ends.

All of what you've described is the first part of the trip, what I call the Roller Coaster. Then you did what my guide said not to do: Open eyes straight after the roller coaster, miss more than half the trip (the second part, quite long as duration) and that's why IMO you had a weird experience. Next time just keep your eyes closed some minutes longer than when you think you're back, you'll see there's plenty of trip left, but it's more subtle. 

As for the light, it's pretty self explanatory. Low light. You don't believe me, smoke in daylight and open eyes, see what happens.

About the music, maybe some people prefer silence or whatever. For me, the trips with headphones and instrumental music offer the most immersive visuals, the absolute very best in what Salvia has to offer. Silence has no rhythm so the visuals are more boring and there's less of them. Music with words ruins the "being something else" effect, because it draws you back to this planet sooner. IMO that is useless if you're trying to trip, so avoid words in your music. Salvia will speak its own alien language. The headphones over speakers is a no brainer. Try it, see the difference.


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Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.



For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it,
and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.
- Matthew 13:16


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