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Mind Boggling Visuals?
    #18734772 - 08/20/13 10:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hello all, I just have a quick question about visual intensity (open-eyed) with psychedelics in general.

So I am relatively new to psychedelic use, but it has rapidly become a substantial part of my life.
Although I do not use them to get "high", but to experience personal growth, I would very much like to experience mind-blowing visuals for a change of pace. I tend to get nothing more than mild distortion here and there with one hell of a psychedelic body high.

I have done some research (a lot actually) on DMT, but due to not wanting to deal with NaOH (I decided on a food safe process, but this is irrelevant), and  barely being able to keep my apartment at the moment, I can't quite afford that yet.

What would be a way for me to obtain these visuals in a more... costly manner?

Sorry for petty questions, I am just curious. Thanks for your time.


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Re: Mind Boggling Visuals? [Re: Caboose]
    #18734785 - 08/20/13 10:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Its tough to say.

Visuals varry from one person to another with drugs and there is no single psych that produces the most pronounced visuals (except DMT)

Ive heard DOC, 2CB, and of course LSD be touted as very visual quite often
That means nothing though as it varries.


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Re: Mind Boggling Visuals? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18734805 - 08/20/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Understandable.

I was just wondering if there were any other substances/supplements to help enhance the visuals, or any helpful tips as far as set and setting, etc.


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Re: Mind Boggling Visuals? [Re: Caboose]
    #18734818 - 08/20/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Darkness. Lots of darkness.
Starve yourself the day before and of the trip.
Get as little sleep as possible.
Smoke weed on the come up. Lots of it.
Dont focus too hard and let your mind wander.


Although yes these are all ironically a recipe for a bad trip as well. Oh well, you seek the void you roll the dice.


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Re: Mind Boggling Visuals? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18734849 - 08/20/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Darkness would probably be insane for me, considering that I already start to see things in total darkness. So that would probably help quite a bit (though most of what I see that way is disturbing, but whatever.)

Fasting shouldn't be too hard. I'm a pretty small dude. 6'4" and only 140 lbs...
Anyways, I know what I will be getting myself into, but thank you for the help!


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Re: Mind Boggling Visuals? [Re: Caboose]
    #18734995 - 08/20/13 11:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe give the lemon/cranberry/grapefruit tek a go (its a bit hit & miss in my experience) to bring on the trip harder; try a sleep mask combined with ear buds (poor mans sensory deprivation); and like Modest said, starve yourself beforehand. Meditation might help too.

Incidentally, DMT extraction doesn't seem to be too expensive. I've sourced enough material to (hopefully) yield about 5g of freebase (using naphtha, so not completely food-safe, but d-limonene could be used as a substitute) for about $100 total. I'm sure you could scale down fairly effectively.

Actually, the cheapest method to trip would be to learn how to lucid dream.


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Re: Mind Boggling Visuals? [Re: Global_Roaming]
    #18735016 - 08/20/13 11:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Global_Roaming said:
Actually, the cheapest method to trip would be to learn how to lucid dream.



I second this. Lucid dreaming is incredible.


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Re: Mind Boggling Visuals? [Re: Global_Roaming]
    #18735023 - 08/20/13 11:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Global_Roaming said:
Maybe give the lemon/cranberry/grapefruit tek a go (its a bit hit & miss in my experience) to bring on the trip harder; try a sleep mask combined with ear buds (poor mans sensory deprivation); and like Modest said, starve yourself beforehand. Meditation might help too.

Incidentally, DMT extraction doesn't seem to be too expensive. I've sourced enough material to (hopefully) yield about 5g of freebase (using naphtha, so not completely food-safe, but d-limonene could be used as a substitute) for about $100 total. I'm sure you could scale down fairly effectively.

Actually, the cheapest method to trip would be to learn how to lucid dream.



Curious... what plant matter are you using for extract?  All the good stuff is hard to get in the US


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Re: Mind Boggling Visuals? [Re: Global_Roaming]
    #18735030 - 08/20/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I have only had what I would call mindblowing visuals off a few things one of which was oral dmt mabey check into that if you are ready. also a iv ing 4 aco dmt is crazy but I liked my aya visuals 100000000000x more


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Re: Mind Boggling Visuals? [Re: Global_Roaming]
    #18735039 - 08/20/13 11:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I will have to try that. Meditation is something that I do before any psychoactive substance enters my body (Even just cannabis has spiked my heart-rate to 175 while sitting down, but some other force may have been at work those times...)

I will use Naptha due to several factors (it's cheap, and depending on the manufacture, volatile enough to completely evaporate), but the biggest cost and complication seems to be the actual plant matter.


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Re: Mind Boggling Visuals? [Re: Caboose]
    #18735041 - 08/20/13 11:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Grow some cactus, get mescaline, ingest and lie down with some music playing and drift away...


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Re: Mind Boggling Visuals? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18735050 - 08/20/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Curious... what plant matter are you using for extract?  All the good stuff is hard to get in the US




Picked up 500g of MHRB for $80 online from a reputable vendor I've used before. Pure naphtha was $10 for 500ml at the local hardware store, vinegar is already in the cupboard, and 500g of pure calcium hydroxide was about $15.

I also discovered that acacia confusa is an introduced pest here, so I've been looking around for freebies (no luck so far).

edit: my bad, meant calcium hydroxide, not sodium hydroxide.


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