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I Need Kung Fu
    #18734441 - 08/20/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

and I need it to be strong.

Im hoping i could get some advice on how to start where to go, what to look for and what to look out for.
I will need my practice in the arts to be tailored to me, because of physical limitations.


I have an injury to my chest that leaves me vulnerable to great injury or death if a situation ever arouse, so i have a no fucking around intention. It is my desire to be able to strike with lethal force and precision, break bones, dislocate joints or stop vital functions if necessary to effectively stop a threat within a few seconds.

This is not a blood lust or desire to inflict undue harm.
I don't go looking for trouble and I never have.
I value the mental and spiritual aspect of the arts and have respect for that.
Because of my physical condition any threat towards me becomes much more urgent and potentially devastating and is why I am morally sound in this approach.

I can't risk fist fights, being push or wrestling and i wont.
If a situation ever came up I would have to protect my head and chest and deliver one or two devastating strike very fast.
I Live in south east MI and can afford maybe $150 to $200 but that's pushing the financial limit.

Thanks for any help in figuring this out, there is a lot of misinformation out there and my situation is slightly unique, I don't want to waste my money or efforts doing something that would be unsuited for me or impractical in real life.


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Re: I Need Kung Fu [Re: Beside the Garden] * 1
    #18734466 - 08/20/13 09:31 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: I Need Kung Fu [Re: Beside the Garden]
    #18734470 - 08/20/13 09:32 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Beside the Garden said:
and I need it to be strong.

Im hoping i could get some advice on how to start where to go, what to look for and what to look out for.
I will need my practice in the arts to be tailored to me, because of physical limitations.


I have an injury to my chest that leaves me vulnerable to great injury or death if a situation ever arouse, so i have a no fucking around intention. It is my desire to be able to strike with lethal force and precision, break bones, dislocate joints or stop vital functions if necessary to effectively stop a threat within a few seconds.

This is not a blood lust or desire to inflict undue harm.
I don't go looking for trouble and I never have.
I value the mental and spiritual aspect of the arts and have respect for that.
Because of my physical condition any threat towards me becomes much more urgent and potentially devastating and is why I am morally sound in this approach.

I can't risk fist fights, being push or wrestling and i wont.
If a situation ever came up I would have to protect my head and chest and deliver one or two devastating strike very fast.
I Live in south east MI and can afford maybe $150 to $200 but that's pushing the financial limit.

Thanks for any help in figuring this out, there is a lot of misinformation out there and my situation is slightly unique, I don't want to waste my money or efforts doing something that would be unsuited for me or impractical in real life.





My knowledge is shallow but I will say you may want to look into Goju-Ryu Karate. Around these parts, that's the kind where it's less about dance move type shit and much more about "Here are practical ways to DISABLE or even kill threats".

Food for thought, but you'll get some more and better replies... we have a lot of martial artists on here actually! :psychsplit:


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Re: I Need Kung Fu [Re: Beside the Garden]
    #18734554 - 08/20/13 09:51 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Six words: five point palm exploding heart technique





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Re: I Need Kung Fu [Re: st1llnox]
    #18734598 - 08/20/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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st1llnox said:

Food for thought, but you'll get some more and better replies... we have a lot of martial artists on here actually! :psychsplit:




Yeah there is :smile:. I have seen the caterpillar from Alice In Wonder Land on here and he seams to really know his stuff im planning on PM him if i can find him.


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Re: I Need Kung Fu [Re: Beside the Garden]
    #18734607 - 08/20/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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I have seen the caterpillar from Alice In Wonder Land on here and he seams to really know his stuff im planning on PM him if i can find him.



I think his name is acaterpillar

I could have spelt it wrong u'll figure it out


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Re: I Need Kung Fu [Re: Sheekle]
    #18734621 - 08/20/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

:thumbup: that is his name, thanks!


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Re: I Need Kung Fu [Re: Beside the Garden]
    #18734641 - 08/20/13 10:07 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I've done Aikido for many years. It's pretty awesome too. You should check it out if there's a dojo in your area. It changed my life. Let me know if you have any questions about it. Just got home from an Aikido class.


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Re: I Need Kung Fu [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18734799 - 08/20/13 10:35 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)


Aikido That looks good because i really cant allow hands on me or get into a lengthy fight, to much risk for me. What is the cost of a months worth of class (roughly) and what should i look for and best avoid.


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Re: I Need Kung Fu [Re: Beside the Garden]
    #18734809 - 08/20/13 10:37 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Most dojos are probably gonna run between 50 and 100 bucks a month. There are several different styles of Aikido. You might do a little research to find out what the differences are and what appeals to you, as well as simply what is available to you in your area that will fit your schedule.


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Re: I Need Kung Fu [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18734839 - 08/20/13 10:42 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

:shocked: That's pretty cheap!
Looks like a starting point thank you.


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Re: I Need Kung Fu [Re: Beside the Garden]
    #18734871 - 08/20/13 10:47 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Here's a sample of my sensei teaching. I'm actually in this video at the very end in the back.


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Re: I Need Kung Fu [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18735057 - 08/20/13 11:23 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I see him extend his hand in what i would take as a good job hand shake and would probably loose my arm:lol:.

About the end, I don't see myself being a good sparing partner because i already have an injury, I mean i fell off a chair in the garage the other day and im fine because of how i rolled with it but the repeated abuse is something im leery of.


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Re: I Need Kung Fu [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18735073 - 08/20/13 11:27 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Wing Chun, Praying Mantis, and White Crane would all be good candidates.

Wing Chun is the most practical, and fastest to learn. It's actually a direct descendant from Southern Shaolin (Modern day Hung Gar).

Basically, a bunch of Shaolin masters had a council where they made a new style that contained only the most bare essential techniques that could be taught in a way to be mastered in only 5 years.
For contrast, Hung Gar often takes 15 years to master.

What area do you live in?
I could help you search for a good Traditional Chinese Martial Arts school.
Honestly, if you can find a good teacher, then any style should suffice.


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Re: I Need Kung Fu [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #18735117 - 08/20/13 11:42 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the reply Acaterpiller.
If you would help me find a place that would be really nice of you, i read from one of your older posts that there is lineage, something i know nothing about and dont want to walk into what someone on here called a McDojo.


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Re: I Need Kung Fu [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #18735310 - 08/21/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Acaterpillar said:
Wing Chun, Praying Mantis, and White Crane would all be good candidates.

Wing Chun is the most practical, and fastest to learn. It's actually a direct descendant from Southern Shaolin (Modern day Hung Gar).

Basically, a bunch of Shaolin masters had a council where they made a new style that contained only the most bare essential techniques that could be taught in a way to be mastered in only 5 years.
For contrast, Hung Gar often takes 15 years to master.

What area do you live in?
I could help you search for a good Traditional Chinese Martial Arts school.
Honestly, if you can find a good teacher, then any style should suffice.




What do you know, in terms of martial arts styles? I find this stuff so interesting, all the different styles and all the different ways the human body can be used, plus all the dedication it takes to get there. Never really gotten in to it beyond that though, as much as I sometimes really want to.

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Re: I Need Kung Fu [Re: The Vapor]
    #18735478 - 08/21/13 01:59 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Look into kuk sool won

It's somewhat rare from what I've heard, but is fucking top notch.


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Re: I Need Kung Fu [Re: The Vapor]
    #18735479 - 08/21/13 01:59 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

i do brazillian ju jitsu,kempo,and traditional ju jitsu if you're actually looking for kung fu and not martial arts in general then i would say given your op that you may want to look int iron style kung fu it takes years and years but the guy can break a baseball bat in half with his wrist:thumbup:.

as for other martial arts i alsways suggest brazillian jujitsu seeing as your most likely going to the ground anyways but that may not be an option for you. maybe krav maga? pankration is pretty badass to but you will be hardpressed to find a trainer. then of course there is always ninjutsu (no joke) that is pretty straightforward. hopkido if you think you will be fighting groups of people:thumbup: and last but not least boxing...im not sure about the extent of your injury but if you mixed boxing with jujitsu you would have a very good fighting style.

i left out karate and kung fu in general, they are not bad arts but through my years of searching i've only found a few dojo's that arent jokes in both styles:shrug: as said above wing chun can be a good style to have under your belt if you can find a good sifu.


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Re: I Need Kung Fu [Re: Beside the Garden]
    #18735501 - 08/21/13 02:14 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Beside the Garden said:
and I need it to be strong.

Im hoping i could get some advice on how to start where to go, what to look for and what to look out for.
I will need my practice in the arts to be tailored to me, because of physical limitations.


I have an injury to my chest that leaves me vulnerable to great injury or death if a situation ever arouse, so i have a no fucking around intention. It is my desire to be able to strike with lethal force and precision, break bones, dislocate joints or stop vital functions if necessary to effectively stop a threat within a few seconds.

This is not a blood lust or desire to inflict undue harm.
I don't go looking for trouble and I never have.
I value the mental and spiritual aspect of the arts and have respect for that.
Because of my physical condition any threat towards me becomes much more urgent and potentially devastating and is why I am morally sound in this approach.

I can't risk fist fights, being push or wrestling and i wont.
If a situation ever came up I would have to protect my head and chest and deliver one or two devastating strike very fast.
I Live in south east MI and can afford maybe $150 to $200 but that's pushing the financial limit.

Thanks for any help in figuring this out, there is a lot of misinformation out there and my situation is slightly unique, I don't want to waste my money or efforts doing something that would be unsuited for me or impractical in real life.



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Re: I Need Kung Fu [Re: kinkaku]
    #18735620 - 08/21/13 02:56 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks!
I meant Kung Fu as a catch all phrase. Like i said i don't go looking for fights and couldn't see my self in a scenario of a group fight eather. Usually there are indicators before an escalation and i can remove my self from the equation, and have never been in a adult fight. Still i don't want to live cowardly and not all situations give an out.

The injury is substantial, there is a titanium rod holding up my sternum and there is no cartilage connecting my ribs to the sternum. Its weird when this first happened it was like the wolves could smell blood and moved in on me. So i now take this as a responsibly to know how to protect myself despite the limitation. So ground fights are out long fights are out also, I need to be like a Mantis with blades for hands that will take a persons head off if they threaten my heart. Basically very quick no fucking around, one of us is going down deadly strikes. Sounds intense but yeah im no MMA fighter.

A scenario i could see playing out is some tough guy is buzzed and doesn't like my look, opinion or whatever the intimidation starts and he beings to shove. This shove while normally not a BIG problem could seriously injury me. So many things could could mess me up from falling, to him hitting the soft spot whatever. You can see my heart beat through my chest so my response is that serious and I could justify killing or seriously wounding someone if they came at me with even a minor assault. My motive is to protect what is sacred and the training will be an expression of that. Channeling of life force meditation, its not just a combat thing.


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