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Re: Ultimate Nightmare Trip [Re: anarchris420]
    #18731206 - 08/20/13 07:44 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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lol negative nancy!


ive had a few hellish experiences....

learned to adjust the vibes or change the set....feel safe, for you will only be in the now. focus on other concepts if death frightens you so much


why not try and integrate that experience?-- by doing 'better' things that you wont go to hell for? psychs are the best teachers, and i think you were trying to teach yourself a lesson




I agree with everything you said, set and setting is a must, and they are are great teachers sometimes teach you things you never thought possible.

Negative Nancy, nah bro, I got nothin but time and patience for anyone that needs it and positivity is what's keep my heart strong and my mind healthy, I'm very grateful for everything around me.:cheers:


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Re: Ultimate Nightmare Trip [Re: mushroomfred]
    #18731218 - 08/20/13 07:48 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Then maybe psychedelics aren't your thing? To truly enjoy a trip you need to literally let go of pre determined beliefs and fears. 





I second this, I've seen death core on here a lot and youre obviously intelligent and observant but I believe you take in what you want to take in. To really benefit from these psychedelic experiences whether they be meditation, sensory deprivation, or breathwork,, or even drugs..you need an open mind.


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Re: Ultimate Nightmare Trip [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18731262 - 08/20/13 08:07 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

OP, sounds to me like what you have there is a bad infestation of your belief systems with monotheistic, dualistic, good/evil, heaven/hell type of thinking. In other words pure crap. You've been spending too much time around Christian spam.

I would recommend you listen to A LOT more Alan Watts, and generally bring some more variation into how you organize your world view. Spring for some Ayahuasca in a real ceremony, you'll hear a very different song about the universe.

Everything the plants ever told and showed me leans towards Hindu, Egyptian or Greek type of thinking. Many gods, many places, big diverse universe. The idea of reality being like an ecosystem. Polytheistic, dynamic, organic, complex, changing and evolving. Trees become food for insects become food for animals and so on and so forth, cyclically, continuously. The eternal symphony. You can say it's all made of shit or all made of wonders and amazing biology and energy transforming. This idea that when your body dies you'll go to one shitty place and stay there forever, that's IMO some pretty ludicrous biblical crap, and you'll be well advised to expand your mind from that sort of thinking.

:hellfire: :satansmoking: Boo :satansmoking:  :hellfire: :lol:


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Re: Ultimate Nightmare Trip [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #18733279 - 08/20/13 05:21 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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But LSD invoking entities on lower doses and just LSD by itself it very farfetched IMHO




Pretty sure people have seen them stone cold sober. I don't agree it's DMT only for entities. John Lilly met them on Ketamine. 99 percent of people who see something on LSD likely don't tell everyone either, because no one believes them, its illegal etc. I have found some interesting stories about LSD entities on the internet though. Not seen one myself, but hope to!

Anyway OP despite joking about it I am curious if this was your last trip. I have had the nightmare LSD trip and it took years to get back on that horse. Many low dose trips before going full retard again. You just know the risk now, I know lots of people who decided 50 awesome trips are not worth one nightmare. If you quit you are part of a large majority who decide to just drink, or do blow or meth or pills or whatever drug "adults" do.
Maybe you will go sober and find Jesus I would guess most people named "death core" are rebelling against that sort of upbringing anyway. LSD is going to hit your religion button, or mystical spot or whatever. If you have big internal conflicts in that area I would be careful. I'm an atheist and LSD still puts the fear of God in me.


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Re: Ultimate Nightmare Trip [Re: my3rdeye]
    #18733513 - 08/20/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

yeah my first trip...

then my second trip was on hella shrooms.. the tv commercials were evil..mocking me and stuff..

i smoked pot today..good super dank.. thoughts were racing. .scared.. told myself im never touching stiff again.. i was gonna get a strip on saturday but during my high i told myself its a trap.. that when im high i know the truth but when im sober my senses are being numbed so i will desire being high..

its messed up..

i feel like i have to trip out to fix my problem..but im afraid it will be a trick that will make me worse..but i gotta..hmm


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Re: Ultimate Nightmare Trip [Re: Deathcore]
    #18733569 - 08/20/13 06:34 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Dude. Stop all drug intake, eat a healthy diet that consists of a variety of fruits & vegetables, exercise on a daily basis, start meditating on a daily basis...even if it's just 5 minutes a day. Also look into supplementing with n-acetylcysteine. Do this, give it time, and things will improve.


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Re: Ultimate Nightmare Trip [Re: Dark_Star]
    #18733682 - 08/20/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds like paranoia got the best of you. I wouldn't take your experience literally. Maybe you just found the fear that lives inside you.


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Re: Ultimate Nightmare Trip [Re: Eric573]
    #18733845 - 08/20/13 07:27 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

dark, i jog 15 miles a day, im lean, and fit..

that was the only benefit from my bad acid experience.. retrospection... i appreciate life more but i dont think i deserve to be happy or succeed...especially when i know one day it will all vanish... but in the back of my mind...i sense hope...like itll all work out positively in my end...

but with my luck...things always suck..

illuminati, poison, cancer, evil, dying planet, sick societies..etc.. its hard to find pleasure when all there is, is misery...

money is the way of life it seems.. even if i dont revolve around money, the majority of people only crave it and are willing to screw each other over for it and put themselves higher than others.. its sad because i feel all alone on this planet.. i cant trust anyone.. everyone is phony and stupid.. i wish more people were like me.

i love art, nature, and the small things in life.. but being around the filth only makes it hard to "let go" of my fear...

control is in the air...but we all gotta breathe..so to speak


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Re: Ultimate Nightmare Trip [Re: Deathcore]
    #18734164 - 08/20/13 08:32 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Why don't you read some Winnie the Pooh or The Tao of Pooh? Reading Winnie the Pooh always puts me in a better mood. The stories and writing are hilarious and the characters are interesting to think about. You can be pretentious like Rabbit or Owl, be depressed like Eeyore, scared like Piglet, or you can be like Winnie the Pooh and take it all in stride. Winnie the Pooh doesn't over-think things to the point of obsession.


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Re: Ultimate Nightmare Trip [Re: Deathcore]
    #18734191 - 08/20/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

This could be the antithesis of a unitary transcendent experience, instead of feeling one with the energy/God that pervades the universe, it's a feeling of alienation from an inauthentic universe. I'm not saying this is what happened, I'd just like to explore the possibilities rather than write it off. How would you feel about having divinity, what if this trip reflects your feelings about being divine?

These trips are very difficult to overcome by thinking, they always have their own stream of logic that never yields to reason. Whenever possible I try to internalize the trip within the body, to encourage it to run its course without getting into an argument of sorts that can't be won. I know it's hard to take a step back once the ball gets rolling.


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Re: Ultimate Nightmare Trip [Re: Molybdites]
    #18734230 - 08/20/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

okay its like this...

im trapped internally. its this feeling like i am truman in the truman show.. only the "show" is my existence. Like i am essentially trying to be reassured that everything around me is actually reality, and not just some imaginary run through.

Like I cant find pleasure in anything because nothing is real anyway. Its all in my head... I am communicating with myself right now..because that is what i deserve.. When I panicked I calmed myself down saying "okay im fine, ill call my girlfriend" but then im like "wait a minute shes not real, its just a trick to keep me distracted from the truth"..

yes i have a girlfriend...

So then im like "okay ill listen to some music... okay shit its all an illusion... this isnt working"... I cant escape death... this hell is only the beginning..because its eternal.. i will lose everything i once loved and cherished...only... it was never real to begin with..  im not suicidal but i think im trying my hardest to stay alive so i can avoid my punishment.. i dont deserve bliss or heaven. i deserve hell because i was born.. i try and try to convince myself that i am a good person but its just a lie.. a big loe... because in my heart i only fear hell and dont care about heaven, or god, or jesus or anyone.
because i know this will all be forgotten one day... and its not real in the first place.. its all a joke..

and if religion IS all a lie, then the unanswered question still remains... WHERE DID ALL OF THIS START FROM? HOW IS IT POSSIBLE? WHY AM I "THE ME" OF THIS UNIVERSE.. HOW CAN I PROVE THIS IS MORE THAN A SIMULATION? THE ANSWER IS I CANT.
im screaming to nobody..


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Re: Ultimate Nightmare Trip [Re: Deathcore]
    #18734243 - 08/20/13 08:48 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

"it's a feeling of alienation from an inauthentic universe."

yes.. read my previous post, i wrote that prior to even seeing your post so..very interesting


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Re: Ultimate Nightmare Trip [Re: Deathcore]
    #18734354 - 08/20/13 09:07 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know if you have seen the movie "The Believer", but in the end the main character is running up the flights of stairs and the Rabbi calls after him something like "There is nothing there. You won't find anything."

There is no "truth" to anything. Life is amazing in the way things are interconnected. Everything is part of a massive ecosystem working together. But everything is working together towards nothing. There is no end. There is no "intent" in nature. All you can do is be glad that you get to watch the process of life unfold for a short amount of time before your body is broken down and becomes part of some other form, living or not.


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Re: Ultimate Nightmare Trip [Re: Molybdites]
    #18734395 - 08/20/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Ultimate Nightmare Trip [Re: Deathcore]
    #18734403 - 08/20/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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okay its like this...

im trapped internally. its this feeling like i am truman in the truman show.. only the "show" is my existence. Like i am essentially trying to be reassured that everything around me is actually reality, and not just some imaginary run through.

Like I cant find pleasure in anything because nothing is real anyway. Its all in my head... I am communicating with myself right now..because that is what i deserve.. When I panicked I calmed myself down saying "okay im fine, ill call my girlfriend" but then im like "wait a minute shes not real, its just a trick to keep me distracted from the truth"..

yes i have a girlfriend...

So then im like "okay ill listen to some music... okay shit its all an illusion... this isnt working"... I cant escape death... this hell is only the beginning..because its eternal.. i will lose everything i once loved and cherished...only... it was never real to begin with..  im not suicidal but i think im trying my hardest to stay alive so i can avoid my punishment.. i dont deserve bliss or heaven. i deserve hell because i was born.. i try and try to convince myself that i am a good person but its just a lie.. a big loe... because in my heart i only fear hell and dont care about heaven, or god, or jesus or anyone.
because i know this will all be forgotten one day... and its not real in the first place.. its all a joke..

and if religion IS all a lie, then the unanswered question still remains... WHERE DID ALL OF THIS START FROM? HOW IS IT POSSIBLE? WHY AM I "THE ME" OF THIS UNIVERSE.. HOW CAN I PROVE THIS IS MORE THAN A SIMULATION? THE ANSWER IS I CANT.
im screaming to nobody..





I have asked all the same questions before... The reason you are "THE ME" of this universe is because of this:



We are simply just an equation in the mix of a universe lined with infinite possibilities.

"Like I cant find pleasure in anything because nothing is real anyway. Its all in my head... I am communicating with myself right now..because that is what i deserve.. When I panicked I calmed myself down saying "okay im fine, ill call my girlfriend" but then im like "wait a minute shes not real, its just a trick to keep me distracted from the truth".."

The human condition lies in just the same way the universe lies. Massively intricate with infinite possibilities with the consequence of a fabric of time and space that can only be constructed based on those possibilities...

Did you get the duality? The cause lies in the effect just as much as the effect lies in the cause. All that exists in consciousness is this... -1, 0, and 1. 1 arises from 0 based on the concept of cause to effect. Without an apple to appear before you (cause), you have no perception to the seeing of the apple (effect). Without the perception of the object "You" or "I", don't exist. So from there obviously, -1 is the opposite, or ANTITHESIS to which our mind no matter what has to construct based on the laws of the universe. There are a certain amount of protons in an atom to equal a certain amount of electrons. The duality of the universe. Obviously 0 is the void in which everything arises and will always arise which is the concept of "god".

I was once in your position, lost in the ocean of seeking cause. You feel defeated as if you have no control over the perception you have brought yourself to arise in. You're right. We don't have control over anything because the universe is it's own medium as we are. But that's the very reason you were put into the universe. It's a TEST. THE ULTIMATE TEST. The test in which now have the free choice to break from your chains and become a free ball of energy which you are supposed to be. Let the universe manifest around you(cause), and you do your part to react in the correct and moral way(effect). We are simply the effect of cause in the chain of the universe. Ever heard of your subconscious?....


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Re: Ultimate Nightmare Trip [Re: ziggity]
    #18734423 - 08/20/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

hmm..yeah... interesting..thanks for that, ill watch the video..

how do i change my subconscious mind?


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Re: Ultimate Nightmare Trip [Re: Deathcore]
    #18735291 - 08/21/13 12:42 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

nah, don't listen to these guys.
go with the flow in the river of styx man.

watch NEON GENESIS EVANGELION.
you'll get so mind fucked when you finish the series.
you'll be begging to finish what you started here in hell.






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Re: Ultimate Nightmare Trip [Re: Deathcore]
    #18735302 - 08/21/13 12:44 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Ultimate Nightmare Trip [Re: rikuni]
    #18735326 - 08/21/13 12:52 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

just type a summary, delarge..

yeah sadly im not in europe :frown:


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Re: Ultimate Nightmare Trip [Re: Deathcore]
    #18735343 - 08/21/13 12:58 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

its about a boy who was rejected by his parents, and then he is "used" by his father who abandon him to pilot giant robots to fight angels. (alien monster things)
and because of this abandonment he can no loner allow anyone into his heart.
its very good for people like you and me to watch.

it won't have the same emotional impact unless you watch every episode of the original series with the original ending

and don't watch the movies or remakes.

but yeah its more of an emotional thing. the ending is intellectual, but it won't have the impact or meaning behind it unless you watch the whole series.
its only 27 episodes. I saw it multiple times this year.

it has a large dose of freud references and exploring the mind of a young teenage boy who cannot connect with anyone and it paints a picture of all his failures to connect.


just watch it ok.


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Edited by Delarge (08/21/13 12:59 AM)


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