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Re: totalled my car today so I need a new ride [Re: Gumby]
    #18762690 - 08/27/13 06:46 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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What are your thoughts on leasing a car then, pwnasaurus?



I've never fully evaluated the cost of leasing, but I would say it depends on how much you drive.  Leasing has a fixed cost per month, so you have to drive a lot to justify it.  You get free maintenance and a perfectly reliable car for a fixed cost.  If you're only driving 10 000km a year it's probably not worth it, but if you drive 30 000 then it might well be.

Leasing is not the same concept as financing though.  Even still, if you're mechanically inclined it's again probably not worth it to lease.  There are more factors at play with a lease, though - financing a depreciating asset is never a sound economic plan.


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Re: totalled my car today so I need a new ride [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #18762702 - 08/27/13 06:56 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I'm pretty sure it's the other way around.. you want to lease if you don't put on a ton of miles a year. Because then if you go over the mileage, you get completely raped.
My chick got into an upside down lease that way and is still paying it off 2 cars later. But now she's almost out of it and is leasing because she only drives like 5 miles a day.
I finance my cars because I put on like 25k+ miles a year, I think most lease terms are like 10-15k a year at max


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Re: totalled my car today so I need a new ride [Re: Shroomism]
    #18762708 - 08/27/13 06:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

How do you invest in assets that don't depreciate? spend all ur money on bonds or whatever?


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Re: totalled my car today so I need a new ride [Re: teamkiller]
    #18762714 - 08/27/13 07:00 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you guys this thread has helped me tremendously as I am planning on buying a car soon.


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Re: totalled my car today so I need a new ride [Re: teamkiller]
    #18762809 - 08/27/13 07:49 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm pretty sure it's the other way around.. you want to lease if you don't put on a ton of miles a year. Because then if you go over the mileage, you get completely raped.
My chick got into an upside down lease that way and is still paying it off 2 cars later. But now she's almost out of it and is leasing because she only drives like 5 miles a day.
I finance my cars because I put on like 25k+ miles a year, I think most lease terms are like 10-15k a year at max



Like I said, I haven't looked into it too much.  I didn't realize there was a mileage limit on leases - in that case they are also never a good idea.

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How do you invest in assets that don't depreciate? spend all ur money on bonds or whatever?



Stocks, bonds, real estate, etc.  There's lots of ways.  Not that saying that any of those things are GUARANTEED to appreciate, but if you invest diversely and intelligently they should overall.


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Re: totalled my car today so I need a new ride [Re: teamkiller]
    #18762922 - 08/27/13 08:41 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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How do you invest in assets that don't depreciate? spend all ur money on bonds or whatever?



Bonds are just loans and in my opnion not a good investment. Gold, Silver land and real esate are the best ways to preserve your capital and wealth.


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Re: totalled my car today so I need a new ride [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #18764032 - 08/27/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
I'm pretty sure it's the other way around.. you want to lease if you don't put on a ton of miles a year. Because then if you go over the mileage, you get completely raped.
My chick got into an upside down lease that way and is still paying it off 2 cars later. But now she's almost out of it and is leasing because she only drives like 5 miles a day.
I finance my cars because I put on like 25k+ miles a year, I think most lease terms are like 10-15k a year at max



Like I said, I haven't looked into it too much.  I didn't realize there was a mileage limit on leases - in that case they are also never a good idea.




But if they have a mileage limit and you live in a city with a very short commute to work(say 2-5 miles), how is that not a good idea? I almost never put more than 15,000 miles on my car a year because everything I need is within about 5-15 miles.


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Re: totalled my car today so I need a new ride [Re: Gumby]
    #18764047 - 08/27/13 01:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

go German or Japanese.


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Re: totalled my car today so I need a new ride [Re: Gumby]
    #18764053 - 08/27/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
I'm pretty sure it's the other way around.. you want to lease if you don't put on a ton of miles a year. Because then if you go over the mileage, you get completely raped.
My chick got into an upside down lease that way and is still paying it off 2 cars later. But now she's almost out of it and is leasing because she only drives like 5 miles a day.
I finance my cars because I put on like 25k+ miles a year, I think most lease terms are like 10-15k a year at max



Like I said, I haven't looked into it too much.  I didn't realize there was a mileage limit on leases - in that case they are also never a good idea.




But if they have a mileage limit and you live in a city with a very short commute to work(say 2-5 miles), how is that not a good idea? I almost never put more than 15,000 miles on my car a year because everything I need is within about 5-15 miles.



Because with a lease you are paying a fixed cost for the car.  Cars basically only get wear and tear (ie cost money) when they get driven.  If you are leasing a car, you always pay the fixed cost.

Let's examine a situation where you drive a lot less in a given month than usual.  You still pay the same fixed cost on the leased car.  You pay a lot less on the car you own, however, as it isn't gaining wear and tear, and you pay proportionally to drive that car, not a fixed cost.


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Re: totalled my car today so I need a new ride [Re: Gumby]
    #18764057 - 08/27/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The way I understand it, leasing is only good if you do commute less than 15,000 miles a year or so, (depending on the lease terms.. NEVER go over the mileage amount)
Because then they charge you something ridiculous, PER MILE over the limit.
And with leasing you generally trade your car in every 3 years, at least that's what my girl does.

I finance/buy my cars because I put on like 25,000+ miles a year, and I tend to keep them for a long time, mod them, and then sell them privately when done. A lease is a terrible idea for me.

With a lease, you never own the car.. you are basically renting it. When you are done with the lease you give it back to dealership and lease/buy another one.

I don't really know any more details or specifics as I've never leased. I've always bought cars used with cash, or my newest one was financed.


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Re: totalled my car today so I need a new ride [Re: druqs] * 1
    #18764098 - 08/27/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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go German or Japanese.




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