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yumablue
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Found cool looking shrooms safe?
#18733935 - 08/20/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Habitat: Where does it grow? Eg. woods, pasture, state, province, country, altitude, etc. What does it grow on? Eg. soil, dung, wood (dead, living, what kind of wood?), etc.
found them in my front yard in mud, has been raining a lot lately, eastern nc Gills: Color, attached/not, gills/pores, etc. red with white spots gills white, gold with white flakes white gills
Stem: Length, diameter, color, texture, hollow/solid, thin/thick, etc.
Cap: Diameter, color, texture, conical/spherical, convex/concave, etc.
Spore print color: Very important!
Bruising: Color that the mushroom bruises, if any.
Other information: Scent of the mushroom, anything else you think is important, large close-up pictures showing stem, cap and gills.
no scent
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: yumablue]
#18733953 - 08/20/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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You found Amanita and Russula.
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yumablue
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
#18734040 - 08/20/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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cool ill toss the red ones and boil the amanita
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: yumablue]
#18734085 - 08/20/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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actualy I'm concerned now, I was reading dark colored amanita is bad, panther amanita?
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: yumablue]
#18734090 - 08/20/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Whoa, whoa, there, youngster!
SOME amanitas are edible. You have a TI's opinion, but no blessing for consumption.
Do not eat mushrooms without positive id. Positive ID is much more than a family or species name.
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: fry day]
#18734110 - 08/20/13 08:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol, ok :/
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: fry day]
#18734134 - 08/20/13 08:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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So, a positive id would include at least two names, eh? Like "Amanita muscaria". Then you take that info and plug it into a search engine and see whatcha have.
The "Amanita" family includes the most deadly mushrooms and some that are reportedly tasty. Most if not all of the Russula aren't too tasty and some are toxic. (If I'm off here someone set us straight, 'k?)
NOW, the next time someone sez you got amanitas and russulas whatcha gonna do?
Ya kids scare me.
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: fry day]
#18734154 - 08/20/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I googled both, the said the russulas are used for spices, found no reason to eat those, and googled the amanita and said they where used to have fun with, bit the red ones and that the dark ones to stay away from cuz the panther one is poisonous
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: fry day]
#18734165 - 08/20/13 08:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't know what sources you are referring to but such generalities are complete shite.
The destroying angel is an amanita and it is white. I am aware of only one active amanita and it is "dark".
You MUST hav both a family and variety name to do real checking, a family name alone gives you nothing.
Have I got that taxonomy right, folks? Family and variety?
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
Edited by fry day (08/20/13 08:41 PM)
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yumablue
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: fry day]
#18734238 - 08/20/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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sounds right to me, I've boiled it twice once for 15mins, changed water n boiled again for 5mins, jus in case I get the blessing to consume
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: yumablue]
#18734252 - 08/20/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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IT? Which one is "IT" that you're boiling? Specificity is important.
Since you're a noob and your pics are not the greatest, you should really hold onto any shrooms in their raw state in case you need to id further or are requested to take better pics. Once it's boiled it's useless for id.
I dunno, dude, are you serious about this or just yankin' my our chain? ;-)
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
Edited by fry day (08/20/13 09:01 PM)
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yumablue
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: fry day]
#18734269 - 08/20/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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boiled the amanita, I threw thw russulas away cuz they do anything
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: yumablue]
#18734277 - 08/20/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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yes I'm serious, ughhh I thought those where good pics, shm ((((
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: yumablue]
#18734311 - 08/20/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ya see, the thing is that it's not clear what you've decided is amanita and what you've decided is russula. There appear to be 4 mushrooms there, all different.
Try referring to them as 1-4, going left to right and top to bottom.
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: fry day]
#18734366 - 08/20/13 09:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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left one being amantia, all to right being russulas
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: yumablue]
#18734393 - 08/20/13 09:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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yumablue said: boiled the amanita, I threw thw russulas away cuz they do anything
Dude, WTF, seriously? Don't consume that amanita without a proper identification to species by a trusted identifier. In all likelihood that is a. pantherina and won't kill you, but even if it is you should do a little more research before you chow down and make sure that a panther trip is even something you want to try. Eating mushrooms that have been identified to genus within a genus that contains everything from the deadly toxic, the hallucinogenic to choice edibles is a good way to get yourself on a transplant list or a refrigerated bed with a fancy toe tag and byline in the local paper. If you're not trolling, you're a complete imbecile.
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yea I jus said I read it could be a panther, so I'm not eaTing it, but in case its ok I already boiled it, I thought my pic was good enough, I'm not trolling and its ok ill be a complete imbecile,
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: yumablue]
#18734432 - 08/20/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just realize that there are hundreds of amanitas, many will kill you, some are good eating, and there are a a few that will get you high, not being mean but it sounded like you were getting ready to chow down on something potentially toxic. This site has a bunch of information on the genus. Stay informed and never eat an unidentified mushroom.
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: yumablue]
#18734433 - 08/20/13 09:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow Someone has a death wish! In your googling, how much information did you ignore about the numerous DEADLY amanita species??
Fuck if you want to get high that bad then steal $10 from yo mommas purse and hit the corner like all the other deadbeat junkies
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: Woombleshamba]
#18734457 - 08/20/13 09:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol yeq, like I said I read stay away from the dark colored amantias...never was I ready to just eat it, that's y I'm here, google lead me to you guys, I have been reading more on pather amantias, sounds like a fun time, but idk what I have n am not going to eat it lol if my pic sux n it can't be I'd'd then OWELL, lol rly, ill jus take $10 from my checking account n buy 6 40 oz's, wtf does my mom have n e thing to do with n e thing lol he so mad lol
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: fry day]
#18734543 - 08/20/13 09:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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fry day said: I dunno, dude, are you serious about this or just yankin' my our chain? ;-)
Thou shalt not feed the tards.
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Edited by BittrBuffalo (08/20/13 09:49 PM)
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: BittrBuffalo]
#18734574 - 08/20/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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wow Im amazed.
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: yumablue]
#18734953 - 08/20/13 11:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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yumablue said: lol yeq, like I said I read stay away from the dark colored amantias...
The deadliest amanita are olive green to white. Not dark. Dude you really need to do a SHITLOAD more research before deciding to eat up a mushroom that you're not 100% sure what it is. Saying it's an amanita is like saying it's a nut. Walnuts are edible, so are hazelnuts, chestnuts. Would you eat a strichnine-containing poison nut? Just knowing it's a nut means nothing, like knowing it's one of the hundreds of kinds of amanitas says nothing about whether it's deadly, edible, or one of the few that will get you high.
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: Tas75]
#18735613 - 08/21/13 02:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you don't get an ID, just chuck it. Trust me, it's not worth it. There will be another day.
Don't worry about all the shouting your getting. Shroomery gets a good few of these posts and the last thing anybody helping wants is for you to die from mushroom poisoning. It's a horrible way to go.
Stay safe ... If in doubt, chuck it out.
Edited by Zeet (08/21/13 02:54 AM)
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: Zeet]
#18735762 - 08/21/13 04:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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ok thanks
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: fry day]
#18735783 - 08/21/13 04:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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The correct taxonomy in this case would be Genus and Species, being Amanita de Genus and Amanita pantherina for example, the Species. OP, you should probably start studying mushrooms if you're into it before you start randomly picking and boiling them based on dubious info you found somewhere on the web. If you're just looking to get high you should probably at least educate yourself on actives and look a likes, and if you're looking for psilocybin like high I garantee that A. muscaria's high is nothing like it. Also if you read that dark Amanitas should be avoided, that is complete bs, you should be careful with Amanitas in general if you don't know the Genus, but some of the most deadly Species can be pretty light colored such as A. virosa, A. phalloides, etc. Mushrooms are just as good as plants to play with.
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: pouihi]
#18735968 - 08/21/13 05:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea I been reading a lot but there are a lot of mushroom types, I doubt reading google search results will make me a expert identifier, so that's y I'm here, to base my info off an experts call...and yup I sure did boil them to remove toxins, eating raw not good idea
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: yumablue]
#18735980 - 08/21/13 05:36 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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You can also boil Amanita phalloides, that won't make it less lethal, just saying. It's your life, so... your choice.
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: pouihi]
#18736016 - 08/21/13 05:49 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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well this has not been identified as that, so yeq good point...
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: yumablue]
#18736058 - 08/21/13 06:07 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Man... you really aren't getting the point. This is just an example, for how someone should not go around picking and boiling shrooms just because they think they're gonna have fun, I'm stating that it is not a good policy if you don't know a thing about it and don't seem to care. Those are not A. phalloides but that is not the point, besides A. phalloides isn't the only lethal mushroom there is, I used it as an example. Anyway it's your body, if you wanna risk bleeding yourself to death between vomiting and diarrhea just for the remote chance of getting high that's up to you. It's not wise to go boiling shrooms just because someone said it is an Amanita (specially considering the bad quality of the pics).
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yumablue said: amanita and said they where used to have fun with
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yumablue said: boiled the amanita, I threw thw russulas away cuz they do anything
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yumablue said: so I'm not eaTing it, but in case its ok I already boiled it
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yumablue said: like I said I read stay away from the dark colored amantias
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yumablue said: I have been reading more on pather amantias, sounds like a fun time, but idk what I have n am not going to eat it lol if my pic sux n it can't be I'd'd then OWELL, lol rly, ill jus take $10 from my checking account n buy 6 40 oz's
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: pouihi]
#18736247 - 08/21/13 07:25 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea like I alreadt said...I boiled them in case I got the go ahead to eat them, and like I already said if the pics are bad then OWELL :/, I don't understand y this boiling thing as u so upset, but n e ways, I'm new here and have already learned a lot, rule 1 take lots of quality pics, I found some new brown ones growing in mulch, they look cool and my next post I will apply all I have learned from this post, thanks for the warm and unserstanding welcome to your forums.
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: yumablue]
#18736283 - 08/21/13 07:40 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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The reason everyone is so bothered is because they don't want you to end up killing yourself. Which is very possible if you don't understand enough about what you are eating. And Amanita's are responsible for about 95% of all fatal poisonings.
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: yumablue]
#18736289 - 08/21/13 07:43 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Damn, why are you all busting this guy up so bad. There's been two pages of people telling a guy not to eat a mushroom after he said he's not eating it. Plenty of allusions to mushrooms that are poisoinous, yet clearly not related to the one in question. In fact I don't think I saw anyone throw out even an ID guess.
Don't eat the mushroom till you know what it is, and don't worry about these guys.
Welcome, lol
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: yumablue]
#18736311 - 08/21/13 07:52 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Maybe I have a misplaced faith in humanity, but I refuse to believe this is for real because there cannot possibly be someone out there that is this stupid. And I mean that in the best possible way.
The OP has been warned multiple times that randomly eating mushrooms you find in the woods is Russian roulette. He has been told many, many times that his behavior can literally produce deadly consequences, and he chooses to ignore it. So if this guy is serious, it's on him. Amanita poisoning doesn't happen immediately, and some mushrooms can take even take a few days to make you very, very sick. You're not outta the woods yet, amigo.
I don't know why one would get their kicks by posting this kind of thing if it was a lie, but then again, I don't know why half the people in the Internet do the things they do.
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: domesticgnome]
#18736338 - 08/21/13 08:00 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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thanks domesticgnome and buffalo ummm I didnt and am not eating it soooo unmm what r u talking about?
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: yumablue]
#18736421 - 08/21/13 08:36 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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domesticgnome is right!
I agree precaution/caution is needed. but no need to haggle OP beyond initial warnings.
I just said wow amazed because of the first few post by OP and all the surrounding cautions. Scared some people including myself.
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: xfsketch]
#18736694 - 08/21/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Maybe I misunderstood. I thought that you ate them or intended on eating them anyway. I think I can speak for everyone when I say that we're not trying to be dicks about it--we're just not into the idea of you possibly killing yourself.
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Re: Found cool looking shrooms safe? [Re: BittrBuffalo]
#18736775 - 08/21/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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its alright, at least u guys do care
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