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OrgoneConclusion
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Reincarnation nutters
#18732859 - 08/20/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why would you believe in such nonsense with no real (read: verifiable) evidence?
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thedream
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Extending that logic, why would anyone believe anything that is not based on fact?
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Sse
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Re: Reincarnation nutters [Re: thedream]
#18732881 - 08/20/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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or not believe
-------------------- "Springs of water welling from the fire" "Life may seem to flee in a moment, but when the mind is freed of the veil of ignorance, and illusion that comes between the mind and the truth, life and death are only opposite sides of the same coin - "water welling from the fire."
"Within us, we carry the world of no-birth and no-death. But we never touch it, because we live only with our notions." -Thich Nhat Hanh instant "Experience always goes beyond ideas"
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Re: Reincarnation nutters [Re: Sse]
#18732884 - 08/20/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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why believe anything at all ?
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dustinthewind13
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Because someday i'll be the best I can be!
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Re: Reincarnation nutters [Re: smiggert]
#18732890 - 08/20/13 03:29 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
smiggert said: why believe anything at all ?
It's necessary to stay alive.
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dustinthewind13
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Re: Reincarnation nutters [Re: Memories]
#18732915 - 08/20/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Memories said:
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smiggert said: why believe anything at all ?
It's necessary to stay alive.
Don't tell me what to do!
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Repertoire89
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OrgoneConclusion said: Why would you believe in such nonsense with no real (read: verifiable) evidence?
Its not externally verifiable, as a personal pursuit through OBEs it is as verifiable as the waking life. If your experiences are equally lucid and your memory extends out of the waking life to the point that it is only a fraction of consciousness, why believe in it over everything else?
This waking life is only a fraction of my consciousness, there is really nothing that can happen in this world to make me think it is more real than the majority of my awareness. Whether or not that appears as delusion to anyone, the reverse is also true
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tribesman
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This whole situation beggars belief.
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Re: Reincarnation nutters [Re: thedream]
#18732934 - 08/20/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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thedream said: Extending that logic, why would anyone believe anything that is not based on fact?
Because they are unable to think critically. What did I win?
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Icelander
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OrgoneConclusion said: Why would you believe in such nonsense with no real (read: verifiable) evidence?
IMO it's because it makes us feel safer about having a decaying animal body. We get to come back instead of just going the way of the dinosaur. Death Anxiety 101.
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Re: Reincarnation nutters [Re: Icelander]
#18733037 - 08/20/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Has Morrison returned yet?
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Nesquickdog
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Quote:
Repertoire89 said:
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OrgoneConclusion said: Why would you believe in such nonsense with no real (read: verifiable) evidence?
Its not externally verifiable, as a personal pursuit through OBEs it is as verifiable as the waking life. If your experiences are equally lucid and your memory extends out of the waking life to the point that it is only a fraction of consciousness, why believe in it over everything else?
This waking life is only a fraction of my consciousness, there is really nothing that can happen in this world to make me think it is more real than the majority of my awareness. Whether or not that appears as delusion to anyone, the reverse is also true
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Memories



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Quote:
OrgoneConclusion said: Has Morrison returned yet?
I think I just squished him.
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Re: Reincarnation nutters [Re: Memories]
#18733078 - 08/20/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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his reincarnated soul should bring us all some of the heroine  
edit: is that the right heroine?
Edited by Nesquickdog (08/20/13 04:21 PM)
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Sse
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Re: Reincarnation nutters [Re: Icelander]
#18733095 - 08/20/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why would anyone not believe in reincarnation? or believe? Seems equally nonsensical
-------------------- "Springs of water welling from the fire" "Life may seem to flee in a moment, but when the mind is freed of the veil of ignorance, and illusion that comes between the mind and the truth, life and death are only opposite sides of the same coin - "water welling from the fire."
"Within us, we carry the world of no-birth and no-death. But we never touch it, because we live only with our notions." -Thich Nhat Hanh instant "Experience always goes beyond ideas"
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Re: Reincarnation nutters [Re: Sse]
#18733098 - 08/20/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh I agree.
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Memories



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Re: Reincarnation nutters [Re: Sse]
#18733105 - 08/20/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sse said: Why would anyone not believe in reincarnation? or believe? Seems equally nonsensical
Not believing in something is not the same as claiming you know it doesn't exist.
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Sse
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Re: Reincarnation nutters [Re: Icelander]
#18733110 - 08/20/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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What would you say to explain the reason for firm non belief?
no but its claiming you think it doesn't exist, what reason could there be?
-------------------- "Springs of water welling from the fire" "Life may seem to flee in a moment, but when the mind is freed of the veil of ignorance, and illusion that comes between the mind and the truth, life and death are only opposite sides of the same coin - "water welling from the fire."
"Within us, we carry the world of no-birth and no-death. But we never touch it, because we live only with our notions." -Thich Nhat Hanh instant "Experience always goes beyond ideas"
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Re: Reincarnation nutters [Re: Sse]
#18733121 - 08/20/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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It seems only a select few here are edumacated enough to realize that the default position is disbelief in any phenomenon until sufficient evidence is presented. It is not a fifty-fifty proposition.
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