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Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering
    #18731926 - 08/20/13 11:57 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

so this story comes from my home town sadly, luckily i didnt know the kid but i did know people who did, and all of them said he never touched a drug in his life but alcohol and weed, so it wasnt like he was on a meth binge or something...

cop is fairly new to the force at 2 years, and hes in harford county maryland....barely shit goes on there, and what does, doesnt go on in that part of the county.

this cop fucked up but i doubt hes gonna get jail time, shit he might not even lose his badge :facepalm:

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A Harford County sheriff's deputy fatally shot a 19-year-old Bel Air man late Saturday night on the parking lot of the BP gas station in the Rock Spring area just north of Bel Air, police said.

The victim has been identified as Seth Jacob Beckman, of the 1000 block of Peppard Drive. He was flown following the shooting to the Maryland Shock Trauma Center in Baltimore, where he died at 1:10 a.m. Sunday, the Harford County Sheriff's Office said.

It was unclear what specifically led the deputy to shoot Beckman, but Sheriff's Office spokesman Edward Hopkins said he was seen allegedly being disorderly and disruptive in the hour leading up to the shooting.

Video surveillance the Sheriff's Office has obtained has shown Beckman was "acting irrationally," Hopkins said Monday.

"His behavior was just erratic," he said.

Meanwhile, the victim's father said Sunday afternoon that his son had battled depression but his actions, as described by police, were out of character.
"A number of events" began shortly after 10 p.m. Saturday, when a disorderly person was reported in front of Planet Fitness in the Rock Spring Village Shopping Center off Route 24, according to Hopkins, who later said Beckman was damaging a sign at the business.

A short time later, the same man was reported allegedly being disorderly and disruptive inside the Bynum Road 7-Eleven.

A later news release from the sheriff's office said Beckman was "tearing up the store," and on his way out he allegedly assaulted a customer. Hopkins said Beckman knew the man, who said "hello," and Beckman allegedly punched him once in the face.

And shortly afterward, Hopkins said, a break-in was reported at Sharon's Shaved Ice, the snowball stand that's on the parking lot of the BP gas station at the intersection of Red Pump Road and Rock Spring Road (Route 24) just north of the Bel Air Bypass.
'Activity' inside building
When a sheriff's deputy pulled up to the scene at 10:43 p.m., he saw there was "activity" in the building, Hopkins said. The deputy saw someone moving and heard some noises.

The man came out and the deputy, because he was investigating a break-in, had his gun drawn, Hopkins said. Witnesses said the deputy ordered Beckman to come out and when he did an altercation ensued between the deputy and the suspect, during which Beckman was shot and wounded.

The deputy fired his gun at 10:44 p.m. and hit the suspect, Hopkins said.
"We don't know why the deputy fired," Hopkins said Saturday night.
Hopkins also said that between the time the was inside the 7-Eleven and the shooting, the same man went inside the store at the BP, where he was also allegedly loud and disorderly and "tearing it up as well."
"His behavior was overt and aggressive," Hopkins said.

Police rendered emergency medical care until paramedics from the Bel Air Volunteer Fire Company arrived. They treated him and took Beckman by ambulance to Red Pump Elementary School, according to the Harford County Fire & EMS Association's media Facebook page. He was then flown to by State Police Medevac to the Maryland Shock Trauma Center in Baltimore.

Hopkins said Sunday afternoon that Beckman's body was taken to the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner for an autopsy.
The name of the deputy involved in the shooting had not been released as of Sunday evening. He was interviewed at the Northern Precinct station in Jarrettsville following the shooting, according to Hopkins.

The deputy, 43, is two-year member of the Harford County Sheriff's Office assigned to the Northern Precinct. He had been a corrections officer before becoming a deputy, Hopkins said Monday. In accordance with agency protocol he has been placed on administrative leave, according to the news release issued Sunday.
Deputies also interviewed witnesses and investigated at the scene well into the early morning hours Sunday.
In a follow-up news release issued just before 2:30 a.m. Hopkins wrote that deputies were originally en route to the 7-Eleven for the disorderly person call when they were rerouted to the BP and the break-in call.

"As the deputy arrived he observed the subject was inside the snowball stand and ordered the suspect to come out," Hopkins wrote. "During the encounter shots were fired at the suspect seriously wounding him."
Detectives noted that the area where the shooting occurred is a heavily traveled road and busy intersection, and they are asking that anyone in the area of Route 24 and Red Pump Road, who may have witnessed the incident or who has any information, to call Det. Andrew Lane at 410-836-5431.
'Aloof and confused'

Beckman lived about two miles from where he was shot. Eric Dupree of the Bel Air area was sitting with two friends in the McDonald's restaurant, across Red Pump Road from the gas station and the snowball stand, when he saw Beckman enter the restaurant around 10:40 p.m.
He spoke to a reporter several hours after the shooting, but before news of Beckman's death broke.

Dupree said Beckman, whom he had not seen for about a year, looked "really just aloof and confused" when he came into the McDonald's.
He said Beckman greeted him and ordered food, but did not eat it.
"He said, 'What's up Eric?' " Dupree recalled.
Dupree said Beckman left the McDonald's, and shortly after his departure, Dupree and his friends in the restaurant saw a quickly-growing number of police cars enter the lot of the BP station.

"I saw it escalate from the beginning," Dupree said of the law enforcement presence.
He said he did not hear any gunshots, though.
"He's a close friend of a close friend," Dupree said of Beckman. "That's why it's sort of shaken me up."
Left home on skateboard

Glenn Beckman, father of Seth Beckman, sat in his living room Sunday evening, with pictures of his late son. Beckman, his wife Linda and Seth's 26-year-old sister Brittany could also be seen in the photos.
The father said he last spoke to his son, who was a 2012 graduate of Fallston High School, around 2:30 p.m. Saturday before he left to visit friends.
"We were just talking small talk about TV shows," he recalled. "It was just causal talk."
Beckman said he later watched his son leave on a skateboard.
"I was just looking out the window, he was rising a skateboard down the street, heading to his friend's house," the elder Beckman said.
He said friends, family and fellow members of Mountain Christian Church in Joppa had been stopping by all day, bringing food and giving their support.
He said funeral arrangements have not been made yet, as the family is still waiting for the medical examiner's report.
Beckman said his son had struggled with depression in recent months and even stayed in the Sheppard and Enoch Pratt Hospital in Baltimore County for about 10 days.
He described the reported actions of his son leading up to the shooting Saturday night as out of character, though.
"Right now, I'll give the benefit of the doubt to the police officer until the evidence shows that we may have to look at another direction," he said.





source: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/harford/forest-hill/ph-ag-sheriff-deputy-shooting-0821-20130818,0,5792858.story?page=1

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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: trippinballs420]
    #18731953 - 08/20/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

So he broke into the store and got shot after a scuffle?

Good job.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Uzziel] * 2
    #18731969 - 08/20/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

So, a young man, having just graduated high school, acted oddly aggressive and punched a guy in the face for no obvious reason. Does that warrant being gunned down in cold blood? :agentgtfo:

Wow, what a role model... gee I can't wait to grow up and be a "law enforcer" / executioner!

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So he broke into the store and got shot after a scuffle?

Good job.



No... bad job. Cops have upper body strength, handcuffs, and radio to call for police backup.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Synthe]
    #18731976 - 08/20/13 12:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

All thieves should be shot and killed, the fact he is a thief and a violent man...

No sympathy from me


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Uzziel] * 2
    #18731979 - 08/20/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Oh he attacked two people. Well, I wouldn't be shedding any tears if he caught a baton to the face, but still, shooting an unarmed man?


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Uzziel]
    #18731981 - 08/20/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Uzziel said:
All thieves should be shot and killed



I pocketed $10 from one of my parents when I was a young child in a resentful mood. Does that mean I deserve to die?


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Synthe] * 1
    #18731987 - 08/20/13 12:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

No, it means your parents should of beaten your ass for stealing.

Fists are weapons, a man swinging his fists at strangers means he is dangerous.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Uzziel]
    #18732154 - 08/20/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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All thieves should be shot and killed, the fact he is a thief and a violent man...

No sympathy from me



all idiots too. so go, shoot.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: trippinballs420]
    #18732264 - 08/20/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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this cop fucked up but i doubt hes gonna get jail time, shit he might not even lose his badge :facepalm:

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It was unclear what specifically led the deputy to shoot Beckman

The man came out and the deputy, because he was investigating a break-in, had his gun drawn, Hopkins said. Witnesses said the deputy ordered Beckman to come out and when he did an altercation ensued between the deputy and the suspect, during which Beckman was shot and wounded.

The deputy fired his gun at 10:44 p.m. and hit the suspect, Hopkins said.
"We don't know why the deputy fired,".










really? the cop fucked up?

the reason for the shooting is unclear?

what happens when someone attacks a man with a gun in his hand?

how exactly did the cop fuck up?


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Synthe]
    #18732272 - 08/20/13 01:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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So, a young man, having just graduated high school, acted oddly aggressive and punched a guy in the face for no obvious reason. Does that warrant being gunned down in cold blood? :agentgtfo:






it wasnt cold blood. it was self defense, I think the george zimmerman case taught us that


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    #18732284 - 08/20/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Why do people think fists aren't dangerous or something?

"Oh but he was unarmed!!"

:rolleyes:

Yeah cuz fists have never killed anyone or anything....


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Uzziel]
    #18732300 - 08/20/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

i hope the police dork's conscience eats him up inside.
another case of
"noticed suspicious looking character. went to investigate. person ends up shot dead."

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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18732307 - 08/20/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Uzziel said:
Why do people think fists aren't dangerous or something?

"Oh but he was unarmed!!"

:rolleyes:

Yeah cuz fists have never killed anyone or anything....



True, but unless the dead man was a 300PD MMA fighter and the cop a 5 foot 2, 110 pound stick, there's no reason why the cop couldn't have used his baton, tazer/stun gun, or pepper spray.

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i hope the police dork's conscience eats him up inside.
another case of
"noticed suspicious looking character. went to investigate. person ends up shot dead."

thanks mr loser cop idiot! :highfive:



Uh, the dead guy DID punch two people in the face, but I otherwise agree with you for the most part. Lethal force was unnecessary.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18732308 - 08/20/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
i hope the police dork's conscience eats him up inside.
another case of
"noticed suspicious looking character. went to investigate. person ends up shot dead."

thanks mr loser cop idiot! :highfive:





really... looked suspicious, that's the reason?

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The man came out and the deputy, because he was investigating a break-in, had his gun drawn, Hopkins said. Witnesses said the deputy ordered Beckman to come out and when he did an altercation ensued between the deputy and the suspect, during which Beckman was shot and wounded.




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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #18732320 - 08/20/13 01:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

oh, sorry, another loser idiot cop who couldn't wait to shoot his gun, instead of taking a few scrapes and bruises. "oh herp but my job is sooo dangerous i almost got touched!"


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #18732339 - 08/20/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The more thieves that are shot, the better for those of us who aren't scumbags.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18732342 - 08/20/13 01:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

same goes for violent menacing police officers, though. :yesnod: can't make exceptions for any idiots now.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18732346 - 08/20/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The more thieves that are shot, the better for those of us who aren't scumbags.



"The more drug users that are shot, the better for those of us who aren't scumbags." 

And yet, most people have ingested some sort of drug. The same could apply to stealing :shrug: I mean, if the cashier rang up your $60 shirt as $20 and you said nothing, TECHNICALLY, you're a thief. So does that make you a scumbag who deserves to be shot?



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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Synthe]
    #18732358 - 08/20/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

people who don't realize the impotence of a human life, probably need to die too.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18732363 - 08/20/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

If a cop was to break into a store and punch someone, I'd agree.

I don't like violent scumbags, cops or not.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Synthe] * 1
    #18732374 - 08/20/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
The more thieves that are shot, the better for those of us who aren't scumbags.



"The more drug users that are shot, the better for those of us who aren't scumbags." 

And yet, most people have ingested some sort of drug. The same could apply to stealing :shrug: I mean, if the cashier rang up your $60 shirt as $20 and you said nothing, TECHNICALLY, you're a thief. So does that make you a scumbag who deserves to be shot?






Your drug usage affects you. Stealing affects others.

You made an amazingly stupid response.


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    #18732383 - 08/20/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, and when police men and women don't do their job and use deadly force when it isn't required, should at least be suspended without pay when incidents like this occur. sets a bad precedent that people can just be shot and killed, like as if killing an innocent person just because they "feel like a threat", isn't criminal for them.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18732393 - 08/20/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You have evidence that deadly force wasn't required? Please share.


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    #18732414 - 08/20/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

no, i don't have evidence, i have a a story in front of that states that the kid was a young, unarmed man and from what else i can read here, he was a no good scumbag pussy.


sound like a pretty easy person to tackle and take down. didn't the cop have backup? i couldn't suppose they could have helped take him down.

they're jobs are at best a minimum requirement for our safe society, and their jobs are inherently dangerous. boys, you have to know how to not scream like a little girl that you're gonna be taken away from your precious (stupid asshole) family, and get killed from a scratch. go in with your hands and try and subject the "INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY" target to a battery to at least NOT JUST KILL THEM. because that's YOUR FUCKING JOB.


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    #18732431 - 08/20/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

So despite having no knowledge of the details and having not been there for the event... you know who was in the right.

Good for you.

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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18732434 - 08/20/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

ok, not really. this particular story, no. i don't care. pussy cops are no help at all. they are scum.


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    #18732439 - 08/20/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

So you have evidence the cop was a pussy? Please share.


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    #18732446 - 08/20/13 01:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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yeah, and when police men and women don't do their job and use deadly force when it isn't required, should at least be suspended without pay when incidents like this occur. sets a bad precedent that people can just be shot and killed, like as if killing an innocent person just because they "feel like a threat", isn't criminal for them.





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    #18732455 - 08/20/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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"As the deputy arrived he observed the subject was inside the snowball stand and ordered the suspect to come out," Hopkins wrote. "During the encounter shots were fired at the suspect seriously wounding him."




pussy^

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yeah, and when police men and women don't do their job and use deadly force when it isn't required, should at least be suspended without pay when incidents like this occur. sets a bad precedent that people can just be shot and killed, like as if killing an innocent person just because they "feel like a threat", isn't criminal for them.





the cop was attacked by a violent individual

deadly force can be used at that point



annnd, where does it say that the cop was attacked? :archiebunker:


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    #18732462 - 08/20/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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“The police came with their guns drawn and asked him to come out. And that’s when the guy came out like a raving maniac and attacked,” Castronova said. “Charged right at the police officer. And he had to shoot him to defend himself.”




Guy did his job and saved taxpayers the cost of incarceration.

Give the cop a medal.

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2013/08/18/suspect-injured-after-police-involved-shooting-in-harford-county/


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18732480 - 08/20/13 02:01 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

hey, ok Jimbo. you win. you fucking win. :rofl:

they're coming right for us!1

shoot the cop in the head.

someone said that he "was raving" and attacked. maybe he was dancing towards the police, windmilling his arms like Bart Simpson. from this guys testimony, he might as well of simply charged him. who knows. you make a wrong STEP towards an idiot fuckhead of a cop, and you'll get blasted. it's simple. idiots don't care about idiots. it's ok guys, i understand how hard it is for you.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18732543 - 08/20/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

But being on a "meth binge" would have made the shooting okay OP ? :confused:


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    #18732637 - 08/20/13 02:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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i understand how hard it is for you.




It's not hard at all judging by how few get shot. Most of us seem to grasp the concept that attacking a cop is a stupid move.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18732646 - 08/20/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
yeah, and when police men and women don't do their job and use deadly force when it isn't required, should at least be suspended without pay when incidents like this occur. sets a bad precedent that people can just be shot and killed, like as if killing an innocent person just because they "feel like a threat", isn't criminal for them.





the cop was attacked by a violent individual

deadly force can be used at that point



annnd, where does it say that the cop was attacked? :archiebunker:




it's been quoted and even highlighted


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    #18732697 - 08/20/13 02:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
i understand how hard it is for you.




It's not hard at all judging by how few get shot. Most of us seem to grasp the concept that attacking a cop is a stupid move.



obviously. can you grasp the concept that cops use excessive force all the time?

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yeah, and when police men and women don't do their job and use deadly force when it isn't required, should at least be suspended without pay when incidents like this occur. sets a bad precedent that people can just be shot and killed, like as if killing an innocent person just because they "feel like a threat", isn't criminal for them.





the cop was attacked by a violent individual

deadly force can be used at that point



annnd, where does it say that the cop was attacked? :archiebunker:




it's been quoted and even highlighted



yeah, if you read the article of words... in your face... you'd see that it was told that one eye witness saw him attack, but it wasn't the cop that got punched in the face, like you suggested. the cop, while "attacked" my have only been rushed at or maybe an attempt was made to hit him; but according to the "eyewitness" (idiot rollover) the guy had "ravenous" intent (LOL) and was "attacking" (which could mean a number of things).

where is this evidence backing up any of your guys usual bullshit?


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    #18732703 - 08/20/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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i understand how hard it is for you.




It's not hard at all judging by how few get shot. Most of us seem to grasp the concept that attacking a cop is a stupid move.



obviously. can you grasp the concept that cops use excessive force all the time?




Except they don't.

Some cops use excessive force sometimes.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18732726 - 08/20/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

ok, yes. i didn't mean to put like that. you're right, some cops.

this cop. probably took a step over the line. because he's not a man, he's paperthin pussy ass panty waste material. fuck that guy. he should eat dirt.

no way he's "putting himself on the line" so badly, that he's justified shooting into a crime scene, because a breeze comes his way.


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    #18732729 - 08/20/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

So you know him? You've met him?


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18732751 - 08/20/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

if you read the article, it's quoted as saying "no one knows why he shot" like more then a couple times, BTW.

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So you know him? You've met him?



i've seen many many many stories of cops that step over ethical lines, of what is a justified killing and what is just plain pant shitting pussidom murder, no bettter then gang banging poopypants scum that killed that random guy in the other thread.


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    #18732761 - 08/20/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The more thieves that are shot, the better for those of us who aren't scumbags.




I don't share your idea of morality or the emotions fueling it, in my youth I stole a lot. Stole from rich people, don't care what anyone thinks about it :shrug:

You can take somethings life because you like the way it tastes, but steal something worth .5% of someone's income and you're a terrible person. The universe is amoral.


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    #18732767 - 08/20/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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if you read the article, it's quoted as saying "no one knows why he shot" like more then a couple times, BTW.

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So you know him? You've met him?



i've seen many many many stories of cops that step over ethical lines, of what is a justified killing and what is just plain pant shitting pussidom murder, no bettter then gang banging poopypants scum that killed that random guy in the other thread.




Seeing as you don't know the cop, or that he crossed any line, "no" would have been less typing and made you appear much less foolish.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18732780 - 08/20/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

... it's too bad things like that happen. :shrug: him not killing the kid well his life wasn't in immediate danger of being snuffed out, made him look foolish. (and like a pussy.)


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    #18732784 - 08/20/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

So you have evidence the cop was in no danger? Please share.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18732826 - 08/20/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

note: i said "immediate danger of having life snuffed out" as in his life was looking down the barrel of a gun, for one thing... two, he wasn't going to be able to be killed from one punch to the face (which allegedly happened) because the cop isn't Glass Joe. he wouldn't have been in the motions of nearly being in any imminent threat to his life; maybe a concussion, at the most.


















should he be a cop? should we have policemen who can break like glass at the slighted smudge from a kid wiping his nose?


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18732848 - 08/20/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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So you have evidence the cop was in no danger? Please share.



oh and as to inquire to you assertion; i see, according to the article, that there is no evidence stating that the cop was in danger of losing his life. i also see no evidence that anyone saw what happened to any extent that any conclusions can be made from this event.

even by the clerks testimony "he didn't know why he (the cop) shot"

by the other eyewitness', he "looked ravenous" statement; that isn't enough to kill someone. he said he "attacked", that also isn't enough to merit killing someone.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18732856 - 08/20/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You have no way of knowing what that one punch might have done. Others have died from one punch.

I must have missed the story about the cop who shot or assaulted someone for wiping his nose. Can you link to it?

In the meantime, can you stop making stupid statements? You're doing yourself no favors... unless looking foolish is your goal.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18732864 - 08/20/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
So you have evidence the cop was in no danger? Please share.



oh and as to inquire to you assertion; i see, according to the article, that there is no evidence stating that the cop was in danger of losing his life. i also see no evidence that anyone saw what happened to any extent that any conclusions can be made from this event.

even by the clerks testimony "he didn't know why he (the cop) shot"

by the other eyewitness', he "looked ravenous" statement; that isn't enough to kill someone. he said he "attacked", that also isn't enough to merit killing someone.




I made an assertion about this? Really? Link please.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #18732871 - 08/20/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

did the punch happen? it allegedly happened (ACCORDING TO YOU AND PRISONER), but no where did ANYONE see the police man getting punched.

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A later news release from the sheriff's office said Beckman was "tearing up the store," and on his way out he allegedly assaulted a customer. Hopkins said Beckman knew the man, who said "hello," and Beckman allegedly punched him once in the face.





here. HERE IS THE FUCKING... *sigh* quote.

THERE.

the cop's LIFE WASN'T IN DANGER, END OF STORY.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18732900 - 08/20/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The only way stuff like this will stop happening is if we disarm the people and the police on patrol.

Which will never happen, we can't even get serial numbers on bullets cuz it restricts our "freedom."


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    #18733268 - 08/20/13 05:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Wait for the autopsy report, this is another nbome or rc case. This was my coworkers best friend and he supposedly took "acid" on a regular basis.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18733339 - 08/20/13 05:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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did the punch happen? it allegedly happened (ACCORDING TO YOU AND PRISONER), but no where did ANYONE see the police man getting punched.

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A later news release from the sheriff's office said Beckman was "tearing up the store," and on his way out he allegedly assaulted a customer. Hopkins said Beckman knew the man, who said "hello," and Beckman allegedly punched him once in the face.





here. HERE IS THE FUCKING... *sigh* quote.

THERE.

the cop's LIFE WASN'T IN DANGER, END OF STORY.




I'm unsure if you're being deliberately obtuse or are simply trolling.

I asked where "I" made an assertion, not where some reporter made one.

Also, despite your feeling of omnipotence, neither you nor anyone else can say whether the cops life was in danger or not.


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    #18733346 - 08/20/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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So, a young man, having just graduated high school, acted oddly aggressive and punched a guy in the face for no obvious reason. Does that warrant being gunned down in cold blood? :agentgtfo:

Wow, what a role model... gee I can't wait to grow up and be a "law enforcer" / executioner!

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So he broke into the store and got shot after a scuffle?

Good job.



No... bad job. Cops have upper body strength, handcuffs, and radio to call for police backup.



No, a fight doesn't warrant being shot to death, but burglary certainly does. If the guy was a burglar even if he was burgling an icy shop he got he just dessert.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #18733362 - 08/20/13 05:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Dont you mean a robbery?

If it was  burglary no one could shoot him...


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Konyap]
    #18733430 - 08/20/13 06:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The way I read the article the cop was responding to a commercial burglary, I assumed the silent alarm signaled a response. That happens a lot.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #18733471 - 08/20/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

"As the deputy arrived he observed the subject was inside the snowball stand and ordered the suspect to come out," Hopkins wrote. "During the encounter shots were fired at the suspect seriously wounding him."

Come on now an empty snowball stand?


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18733506 - 08/20/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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he wasn't going to be able to be killed from one punch to the face





Umm it is possible to kill someone with one punch.

Woman on Trial for Killing Rapper With One Punch

A 142 pound woman is on trial for killing an aspiring rapper with one punch to the face during a party game in which the victim agreed to be hit as part of a $5 bet.

A few minutes after Tiffany Startz, 22, had delivered a punch to his face, Powell passed out. He was taken to Provena Saint Joseph Medical Center in Joliet, Ill., where he died.

An autopsy on Powell showed that an artery burst in his neck and that he died from a brain hemorrhage caused by blunt force trauma.


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    #18733519 - 08/20/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
he wasn't going to be able to be killed from one punch to the face





Umm it is possible to kill someone with one punch.

Woman on Trial for Killing Rapper With One Punch

A 142 pound woman is on trial for killing an aspiring rapper with one punch to the face during a party game in which the victim agreed to be hit as part of a $5 bet.

A few minutes after Tiffany Startz, 22, had delivered a punch to his face, Powell passed out. He was taken to Provena Saint Joseph Medical Center in Joliet, Ill., where he died.

An autopsy on Powell showed that an artery burst in his neck and that he died from a brain hemorrhage caused by blunt force trauma.




Damn not to make light of the situation but that chick put a dude to sleep forever with a one punch KO?

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    #18733717 - 08/20/13 07:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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did the punch happen? it allegedly happened (ACCORDING TO YOU AND PRISONER), but no where did ANYONE see the police man getting punched.

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A later news release from the sheriff's office said Beckman was "tearing up the store," and on his way out he allegedly assaulted a customer. Hopkins said Beckman knew the man, who said "hello," and Beckman allegedly punched him once in the face.





here. HERE IS THE FUCKING... *sigh* quote.

THERE.

the cop's LIFE WASN'T IN DANGER, END OF STORY.




I'm unsure if you're being deliberately obtuse or are simply trolling.

I asked where "I" made an assertion, not where some reporter made one.

Also, despite your feeling of omnipotence, neither you nor anyone else can say whether the cops life was in danger or not.



i'm not saying you said anything, you're ASKING ME. plus, to add, i don't think any wrong doing has been made other then the cop being an absolutely pussy shitheel. that's it. i just wish the kid hadn't died cause of people. well, like you.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #18733748 - 08/20/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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So, a young man, having just graduated high school, acted oddly aggressive and punched a guy in the face for no obvious reason. Does that warrant being gunned down in cold blood? :agentgtfo:






it wasnt cold blood. it was self defense, I think the george zimmerman case taught us that




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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: fapjack]
    #18733779 - 08/20/13 07:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

sucks that kid died. dont know what else to say, sounds like he had some problems, or maybe just ran into the wrong police officer at one of his more reckless and vulnerable moments.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: ManianFH]
    #18733801 - 08/20/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

He fucked up, cop did something that was understandable if that's what really happened.  Think cop might be full of shit though, but no way of knowing without a video recording.  Shitty situation all around.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: fapjack]
    #18733866 - 08/20/13 07:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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So, a young man, having just graduated high school, acted oddly aggressive and punched a guy in the face for no obvious reason. Does that warrant being gunned down in cold blood? :agentgtfo:






it wasnt cold blood. it was self defense, I think the george zimmerman case taught us that




I think that topic showed what people in this forum have shit for brains also.



yeah. um, before you go calling people shit for brains, how about this shit for brains... there was no self defense. the cop wasn't hit in the face. it was a customer in the store.

so how the fuck is it warrant that the cop use lethal force? explain, NOW.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18733886 - 08/20/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think anyone should kill anyone else, unless they are trying to murder you.  I'm assuming he attacked or tried to attack the cop, which might not be the best way for a cop to diffuse the situation I do understand why they do it.  Cops are fucked in the head to begin with, and an ex-correction officer to boot.  He should have known how to deal with an unarmed person better, but who the fuck attacks a cop in the first place?  If he never attacked the cop then that's just fucked.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: fapjack]
    #18733902 - 08/20/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah well, I tried to explain earlier it was a burglary so...


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Beefcakemighty] * 1
    #18734129 - 08/20/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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he wasn't going to be able to be killed from one punch to the face





Umm it is possible to kill someone with one punch.

Woman on Trial for Killing Rapper With One Punch

A 142 pound woman is on trial for killing an aspiring rapper with one punch to the face during a party game in which the victim agreed to be hit as part of a $5 bet.

A few minutes after Tiffany Startz, 22, had delivered a punch to his face, Powell passed out. He was taken to Provena Saint Joseph Medical Center in Joliet, Ill., where he died.

An autopsy on Powell showed that an artery burst in his neck and that he died from a brain hemorrhage caused by blunt force trauma.




That's a freak accident though, boxers and martial artists all over the world get pummeled frequently without issue. Actually never heard of someone dying like that but have heard of people being beat with a hammer or baseball bat to the head without dying

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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18734140 - 08/20/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Well If I'm a cop I don't want some dirty druggie peasant touching me, but shots fire wouldn't have been the headline in that instance.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Konyap]
    #18734158 - 08/20/13 08:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Tazer, pepper spray, or ass kicking would've been better. I don't know the details though, there's some big kids out there and some trigger happy cops.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: fapjack]
    #18734195 - 08/20/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't think anyone should kill anyone else, unless they are trying to murder you.  I'm assuming he attacked or tried to attack the cop, which might not be the best way for a cop to diffuse the situation I do understand why they do it.  Cops are fucked in the head to begin with, and an ex-correction officer to boot.  He should have known how to deal with an unarmed person better, but who the fuck attacks a cop in the first place?  If he never attacked the cop then that's just fucked.



succinct, i agree 100%. but did he attack the police. no one here knows. so lets not condemn this kid.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18734246 - 08/20/13 08:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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fapjack said:
I don't think anyone should kill anyone else, unless they are trying to murder you.  I'm assuming he attacked or tried to attack the cop, which might not be the best way for a cop to diffuse the situation I do understand why they do it.  Cops are fucked in the head to begin with, and an ex-correction officer to boot.  He should have known how to deal with an unarmed person better, but who the fuck attacks a cop in the first place?  If he never attacked the cop then that's just fucked.



succinct, i agree 100%. but did he attack the police. no one here knows. so lets not condemn this kid.




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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Uzziel]
    #18734319 - 08/20/13 09:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, but he was completely out of his mind at the time, sucker-punching TWO people, apparently at random. So it's likely he was not very well in control of his own actions. If he wasn't gunned down like an animal, he might very well have woken up in a drunk tank with no memory of what happened.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Synthe] * 1
    #18734344 - 08/20/13 09:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Don't give a fuck. I've been drunk off my ass and I've never punched people in the face, never went to a store, broke in and robbed it. Never attacked a cop.

So there is no excuse. "Oh he wasn't in control"

So who is to blame, the alcohol? Bull fucking shit. Blame the dude who got so god damn drunk he couldn't control himself. How about taking responsibility for your ACTIONS that lead up to situations like this.

Fuck blaming drugs. I am so sick of hearing that lame ass fucking cop out.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Uzziel]
    #18734363 - 08/20/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Now, now sometimes teenagers can just get rambunctious...


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Konyap]
    #18734422 - 08/20/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Now, now sometimes teenagers can just get rambunctious...




I didn't know assaulting 3 people was considered simply "rambunctious"

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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Uzziel]
    #18734523 - 08/20/13 09:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You ever have a mental breakdown before?  Sometimes you don't even know what you are doing, its as if you lose control of your body.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: fapjack]
    #18734552 - 08/20/13 09:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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You ever have a mental breakdown before?




No.

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Sometimes you don't even know what you are doing, its as if you lose control of your body.




I'm always conscious of my actions, and I certainly don't blame it on other shit.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Uzziel]
    #18734639 - 08/20/13 10:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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You ever have a mental breakdown before?




No.

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Sometimes you don't even know what you are doing, its as if you lose control of your body.




I'm always conscious of my actions, and I certainly don't blame it on other shit.



Probably because you haven't been through some shit.

It blows my mind how close minded some people are on this site. I always figured it would be the opposite.

I am always in control of myself as well but I know and understand that could change and it wouldn't be that hard. The right time and situation and anything could happen. The chemicals in your brain in are crazy and they can do crazy shit.

And it doesn't matter what YOU have and haven't done and it's completely fair to blame actions on substances/states of mind. We are all playing with a different set of cards here bubba. Just because you haven't snapped or don't have the testosterone to doesn't mean other people don't.  Fuck, even the legal system knows damn well that substances can and will directly effect your actions and they take it into consideration. You're more close minded than the fuckin system bro ! :lol:


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    #18734677 - 08/20/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You are assuming way too much about me. How about you worry about you, and I'll worry about me. Me? Close minded? You must be living under a rock. Awww, so I think people who get drunk are responsible for their actions? Cry me a fucking river.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: CounterCulturest]
    #18734693 - 08/20/13 10:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

i just heard through word of mouth (unsure of how true it is) that some synthetic cannabanoids had something to do with it


from a friends moms friend who is friends with a police officer or something like that :rollseyes:

i wouldnt be too surprised if it were true tho, a lot of people have the view of "its legal and sold in stores so its safe"


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Uzziel]
    #18734717 - 08/20/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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You are assuming way too much about me. How about you worry about you, and I'll worry about me. Me? Close minded? You must be living under a rock. Awww, so I think people who get drunk are responsible for their actions? Cry me a fucking river.




It's easy to when you can't understand that a stressful situation/enough drugs can be the reason someone makes a drastic move. Those things directly effect the choices you make,Hah. I'm not worrying about you, or myself. Just buttin my nose into a discussion on the internet because I feel like it and I think it's ridiculous you think you are Mr.HeMan. I'll cry you a fucking river when you chose to join us in the real world <3


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    #18734743 - 08/20/13 10:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Uzziel said:
You are assuming way too much about me. How about you worry about you, and I'll worry about me. Me? Close minded? You must be living under a rock. Awww, so I think people who get drunk are responsible for their actions? Cry me a fucking river.




It's easy to when you can't understand that a stressful situation/enough drugs can be the reason someone makes a drastic move. Those things directly effect the choices you make,Hah. I'm not worrying about you, or myself. Just buttin my nose into a discussion on the internet because I feel like it and I think it's ridiculous you think you are Mr.HeMan. I'll cry you a fucking river when you chose to join us in the real world <3




Whose fault is it again for taking a massive amount of drugs again?

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    #18734758 - 08/20/13 10:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Synthe said:
So, a young man, having just graduated high school, acted oddly aggressive and punched a guy in the face for no obvious reason. Does that warrant being gunned down in cold blood? :agentgtfo:






it wasnt cold blood. it was self defense, I think the george zimmerman case taught us that




theres no reason the cop couldn't have just tasered him. it doesnt say anything about him having a weapon so theres no reason for the officer to fire his gun when he could easily taser him to bring him down


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    #18734769 - 08/20/13 10:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

led zeppelin make a thread apologizing for the time you stole money from a guy who was ODing


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    #18734784 - 08/20/13 10:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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led zeppelin make a thread apologizing for the time you stole money from a guy who was ODing




He justified it because the cops would of stole his money

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    #18734898 - 08/20/13 10:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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You are assuming way too much about me. How about you worry about you, and I'll worry about me. Me? Close minded? You must be living under a rock. Awww, so I think people who get drunk are responsible for their actions? Cry me a fucking river.




It's easy to when you can't understand that a stressful situation/enough drugs can be the reason someone makes a drastic move. Those things directly effect the choices you make,Hah. I'm not worrying about you, or myself. Just buttin my nose into a discussion on the internet because I feel like it and I think it's ridiculous you think you are Mr.HeMan. I'll cry you a fucking river when you chose to join us in the real world <3




Whose fault is it again for taking a massive amount of drugs again?

This is what is wrong with this generation: Someone wants to put the blame elsewhere.




Exactly. He made the mistake of taking a bunch of drugs. And I still think he should be helf accountable for his actions but he isn't just dumb fuck who does dumb shit like punching a cop (okay maybe he is, who knows. but not everyone who does this is). All I'm saying is that life gets crazy and we all have different breaking points and people should understand that. I could never see myself doing something like that but who knows. If I hit my breaking point then I just might.

When you completely black out and don't remember a thing, it's fine to want to put the blame on the drugs. Yes, you shouldn't have taken drug you can't handle. I agree. You just lose everything in your life and then you see your wife get raped in front you. You are drunk. Then a cop laughs at what happened to you. You honestly think after something as heavy like that you will have as much control over your actions as you usually do ?

Give me a break with "this generation"  bullshit. People have been trying to pass the buck since they have been on earth. Just because you know shit kids who make their generation look bad doesn't mean we all do. I'm in a hurry but I have some more shit to spew. I'll be back


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Uzziel said:
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CounterCulturest said:
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You are assuming way too much about me. How about you worry about you, and I'll worry about me. Me? Close minded? You must be living under a rock. Awww, so I think people who get drunk are responsible for their actions? Cry me a fucking river.




It's easy to when you can't understand that a stressful situation/enough drugs can be the reason someone makes a drastic move. Those things directly effect the choices you make,Hah. I'm not worrying about you, or myself. Just buttin my nose into a discussion on the internet because I feel like it and I think it's ridiculous you think you are Mr.HeMan. I'll cry you a fucking river when you chose to join us in the real world <3




Whose fault is it again for taking a massive amount of drugs again?

This is what is wrong with this generation: Someone wants to put the blame elsewhere.




Exactly. He made the mistake of taking a bunch of drugs. And I still think he should be helf accountable for his actions but he isn't just dumb fuck who does dumb shit like punching a cop




Uhhhh..............................wut? You lost me there.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Uzziel]
    #18734954 - 08/20/13 11:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Someone on this site knows him as a acid head and said he's likely to smoke some synthetic shit, but I mean shooting a perfectly good white boy?

What's wrong with people these days...


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    #18734972 - 08/20/13 11:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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aiyobro said:
Someone on this site knows him as a acid head and said he's likely to smoke some synthetic shit, but I mean shooting a perfectly good white boy?

What's wrong with people these days...




Another person who has lost me. Since when do good boys attack 3 people?

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    #18735078 - 08/20/13 11:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

i have to admit, about 2 months ago i was at a wedding, i was roofied with an unknown substance that was intended for my sister.....instead of me losing all inhibitions, and becoming almost in a dreamlike state i began talking nonsense, and then becoming extremely agitated for no reason

i ended up back in my hotel room ripping the phone out of the wall and throwing it across the room, breaking my remote in half, and ripping my phone to pieces....i then proceeded to leave the hotel, then go off punching random shit, kicking random sprinklers/lights that were low to the ground, who knows what else

i then, after walking around shoeless on really random backass roads in bumblefuck virginia where i had never been before i finally found my way back to the hotels area

i go into the wrong hotel, end up getting in a shouting match with the worker because i was sure i was in the right hotel, i became a little violent and he ended up pushing me out of the hotel and locking the door.

so i walked away again into the country, ended up up at some persons house...i had walked about a mile up their private driveway somehow....at this point i had started to come down enough to think,"wtf am i freakin about? i wanna go sleep" so i make my way back to the hotels

i actually know which hotel to go to, i go in and end up passing out....i wake up the next morning groggy and kinda fucked up still, with not a hangover but a fucking crazy shitty feeling, not remembering a god damn thing from the very end of the wedding when i was drinking with my sister to when i woke up

i call my parents and they come up and explain to me everything that happened...apparently i was EXTREMELY loud using profanity, and a few guests actually called the police. apparently i had been freaking out in the way to the hotel in the car, yelling about how jews were taking over the world and the new world order was going to kill me, pretty much just pulling out paranoid shit for no reason that had no logical explanations

then my mom tells me in the hotel room i had cowered into a corner in a ball at one point, thinking the entire hotel party was in my hotel room and that everyone there (all loved ones and friends) were out to kill me.


im not saying this is what happened but during my whole ordeal if i got violent i would hope the police officer would use a tazer or pepper spray.....i thought they carried non-lethal weapons for a reason?


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    #18735138 - 08/20/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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    #18735171 - 08/21/13 12:01 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Synthe] * 1
    #18735235 - 08/21/13 12:28 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Before you all judge anything, I was one of his best friends. He was told it was acid, but it was actually 25i. His mind went crazy and led to all this. Someone sold him a research chemical that made him go insane. I admit I took it the day before and it tasted like metal, it was not lsd at all. My other friend went almost insane himself. Moral of the story, you never know what your getting. He was not robbing anyone, he was just destroying and assaulted one person.

Also I don't blame the cop, I feel horrible for him. He was told of a man assaulting and wrecking stores. He had his gun drawn, he was inexperienced, a man running towards you, what would you do? I would have done the same thing, it was the heat of the moment, just think about what you woul do. What would your frat reaction be?

Know all the facts before judging because Seth was a really nice kid. He got into spirituality and never would hurt anyone. I'm not saying that because I was his friend, I'm saying that because he was wet pacifist. Lsd is fine, weed is fine, shrooms are fine... Spice, research chemicals, alternatives people come up with too get high. That's the real problem


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    #18735248 - 08/21/13 12:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

:woah:


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    #18735265 - 08/21/13 12:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry about your friend dude.

As far as how the cop reacted I'd probably have tazed the kid, but I'm not inexperienced


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: BagOfSunshine]
    #18735273 - 08/21/13 12:36 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Before you all judge anything, I was one of his best friends. He was told it was acid, but it was actually 25i. His mind went crazy and led to all this. Someone sold him a research chemical that made him go insane. I admit I took it the day before and it tasted like metal, it was not lsd at all. My other friend went almost insane himself. Moral of the story, you never know what your getting. He was not robbing anyone, he was just destroying and assaulted one person.

Also I don't blame the cop, I feel horrible for him. He was told of a man assaulting and wrecking stores. He had his gun drawn, he was inexperienced, a man running towards you, what would you do? I would have done the same thing, it was the heat of the moment, just think about what you woul do. What would your frat reaction be?

Know all the facts before judging because Seth was a really nice kid. He got into spirituality and never would hurt anyone. I'm not saying that because I was his friend, I'm saying that because he was wet pacifist. Lsd is fine, weed is fine, shrooms are fine... Spice, research chemicals, alternatives people come up with too get high. That's the real problem




you are one of the more rational people who have responded....thank you...if you were a friend of seths we probably have mutual friends....sorry for your loss man.

and yes. inexperience and unfortunate events led to it, i just wonder why non lethal measures werent taken....if you live in the area you know that the northern precinct of harford county sheriffs dept is VERY safe and for the most part not a whole lot goes on outside of drugs and the occassional theft or B&E, the officer shouldve had a tazer or pepper spray...he had a decent idea of what he was walking into it seems like :shrug:

regardless, i think its an extremely unfortunate occurance,and i feel for all parties involved, while i do think the cop fucked up


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    #18735297 - 08/21/13 12:43 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I try to be rational and not let my emtion decide for me. Like I'm split between what would you have done in that situation, but also keep my taser drawn.

But I was reading through this and saw so many people take this all the wrong way I had to make an account haha


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: BagOfSunshine]
    #18735309 - 08/21/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry man. For the record though, there were only two guys who keep saying he should've been shot. Dunno why...

They can't seem to realize that he wasn't really in control of his actions at the time :shrug:




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    #18735317 - 08/21/13 12:50 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

yeah man, glad you did make an account....im from bel air, went to CMW, but had a lot of friends who went to fallston, even tho i wouldve graduated in 09 a few of my friends knew him from rugby

sad situation :frown: good to see you are keeping a rational view man....if i were in your position id be fuckin pissed at someone somewhere for something in this.


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    #18735456 - 08/21/13 01:50 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

What's the point of being pissed?
There isn't.
Seth was acting very violently and it would not surprise me if he attacked the officer.  For all we know Seth may have actually killed the cop in his enragement.  The cop was just using self-defense.




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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #18735553 - 08/21/13 02:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Shit that's nothing. A kid I know got shot in the face and killed for walking in the wrong house while he was tripping on mushrooms.


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Shit that's nothing. A kid I know got shot in the face and killed for walking in the wrong house while he was tripping on mushrooms.




Fucking whoa.

That reminds me, back when I was 15 I was a friend's house party. Cops showed so people scattered. Me included. I jumped his fence into his neighbor's yard and hid behind an AC unit. Then I hear "don't move motherfucker". Except it's not a cop. It's the neighbor and he has a pistol to my head. He told me that some stalker had been creeping on his daughter and looking through her window. Dude straight up asked me to give him one good reason not to shoot me, and I was like "dude I'm just running from the cops, go look out front!", lmfao. And then he let me go.


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    #18735588 - 08/21/13 02:44 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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If a cop was to break into a store and punch someone, I'd agree.

I don't like violent scumbags, cops or not.



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Shit that's nothing. A kid I know got shot in the face and killed for walking in the wrong house while he was tripping on mushrooms.




Fucking whoa.

That reminds me, back when I was 15 I was a friend's house party. Cops showed so people scattered. Me included. I jumped his fence into his neighbor's yard and hid behind an AC unit. Then I hear "don't move motherfucker". Except it's not a cop. It's the neighbor and he has a pistol to my head. He told me that some stalker had been creeping on his daughter and looking through her window. Dude straight up asked me to give him one good reason not to shoot me, and I was like "dude I'm just running from the cops, go look out front!", lmfao. And then he let me go.




Yeah he was a total douche, but tragic nonetheless.
And damn, that would scare the shit out of me dude.  That's 'Merica for you though. Guns and testosterone.


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    #18735637 - 08/21/13 03:02 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Before you all judge anything, I was one of his best friends. He was told it was acid, but it was actually 25i. His mind went crazy and led to all this. Someone sold him a research chemical that made him go insane. I admit I took it the day before and it tasted like metal, it was not lsd at all. My other friend went almost insane himself. Moral of the story, you never know what your getting. He was not robbing anyone, he was just destroying and assaulted one person.

Also I don't blame the cop, I feel horrible for him. He was told of a man assaulting and wrecking stores. He had his gun drawn, he was inexperienced, a man running towards you, what would you do? I would have done the same thing, it was the heat of the moment, just think about what you woul do. What would your frat reaction be?

Know all the facts before judging because Seth was a really nice kid. He got into spirituality and never would hurt anyone. I'm not saying that because I was his friend, I'm saying that because he was wet pacifist. Lsd is fine, weed is fine, shrooms are fine... Spice, research chemicals, alternatives people come up with too get high. That's the real problem



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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Fire is Born]
    #18735642 - 08/21/13 03:06 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

lol kid had alteration with cop when the cop had a loaded weapon pointed at him. Not surprised he got shot, a person with a gun pointed at someone isn't going to let them physically assault them.


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    #18735655 - 08/21/13 03:15 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

That's why he has training. Pretty bad training.  You guys should get better trained officers who don't blast kids because they are scared


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That's why he has training. Pretty bad training.  You guys should get better trained officers who don't blast kids because they are scared




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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Fire is Born]
    #18735676 - 08/21/13 03:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I dont like how that article was put together.


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    #18735683 - 08/21/13 03:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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That's why he has training. Pretty bad training.  You guys should get better trained officers who don't blast kids because they are scared




I thought cops from the UK don't even carry guns, so ours are actually more trained then what you would find in your own country. Correct me if I'm wrong.



We have particular units that carry guns. Just not every officer.  As we have strict firearm laws most people figure it's not worth getting 10 years for so carry knives instead.
Our officers are pretty shitty too. They just don't get to shoot people like yours.
It wasn't by any means implying British were better. Had this happened here though,  that kid would be alive.
A while ago in my town a guy covered himself in petrol during a breakdown.  The police shot him with a stun gun and ignited the petroleum. ...just so you feel better


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That's why he has training. Pretty bad training.  You guys should get better trained officers who don't blast kids because they are scared




I thought cops from the UK don't even carry guns, so ours are actually more trained then what you would find in your own country. Correct me if I'm wrong.



We have particular units that carry guns. Just not every officer.  As we have strict firearm laws most people figure it's not worth getting 10 years for so carry knives instead.
Our officers are pretty shitty too. They just don't get to shoot people like yours.
It wasn't by any means implying British were better. Had this happened here though,  that kid would be alive.
A while ago in my town a guy covered himself in petrol during a breakdown.  The police shot him with a stun gun and ignited the petroleum. ...just so you feel better




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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Everlong]
    #18736104 - 08/21/13 06:27 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Now cheerios are a bland but healthy cereal, they make a good breakfast.


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    #18736155 - 08/21/13 06:48 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Another life ruint by alcohol. :sad:
Shit never wudda happened w/ pot.

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    #18736347 - 08/21/13 08:06 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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did the punch happen? it allegedly happened (ACCORDING TO YOU AND PRISONER), but no where did ANYONE see the police man getting punched.







care to show me where I said the cop was punched, kicked, bit or was physically harmed in any way


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    #18736355 - 08/21/13 08:10 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Another life ruint by alcohol. :sad:
Shit never wudda happened w/ pot.

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alcohol didnt ruin a life, a stupid drunk did

it's not the vehicle that's to blame, as we all recall, trayvon martin
smoked pot as did the florida face eating cannibal, they're both dead
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Sometimes the vehicle can have a hell of a lot to do with
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Sometimes the vehicle can have a hell of a lot to do with
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and we woder why drugs have such a bad rap, even he druggies still blame the drug as opposed to the user


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Cause it's just gotta be one or the other. :facepalm:
Drugs have a bad wrap for a variety of reasons.
Saying they have no effect is as big of a cop out as saying it's the only variable.

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Another life ruint by alcohol. :sad:
Shit never wudda happened w/ pot.

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alcohol didnt ruin a life, a stupid drunk did

it's not the vehicle that's to blame, as we all recall, trayvon martin
smoked pot as did the florida face eating cannibal, they're both dead
because they attacked someone while on marijuana




the florida face eating dude was only on marijuana?


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I've seen more people do totally mind numbingly stupid and evil shit on alcohol than heroin, coke, & crack combined.

Easy.

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    #18736489 - 08/21/13 09:03 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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You are assuming way too much about me. How about you worry about you, and I'll worry about me. Me? Close minded? You must be living under a rock. Awww, so I think people who get drunk are responsible for their actions? Cry me a fucking river.



You are assuming way too much about a person you have no fucking clue about from a story you didn't see, and claims from an officer who's job/freedom are potentially on the line to lie.  Also, you seem from your posts to have some serious social problems, whether or not you realize this.  I don't blame you though, I blame the shroomery for pushing your buttons into make you a grumpy gus.
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    #18736513 - 08/21/13 09:09 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Your post is just filled with irony. Of course I have a clue, I can only go off what the report says, just like you and everyone else. All of which, claims he was violent and broke into the store.

Like some random guy on the internet has any idea of what my life is like. Projecting much? :rofl:


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I've read your posts many times, and I didn't say you did I said it seems.  I want to help you though, if you want to go in MIRC chat maybe we can spend an afternoon together and help bang those problems out.


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I still think law enforcement is the only place where women shouldn't be allowed to work.


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    #18737394 - 08/21/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Cuz you have them watch lock up and they can easily get overpowered if something happens, you have to watch what they're doing if the fuck up. My brothers friend works there and he's like 6'3 240 pounds has worked out and played division 1 college ball and even he has taken roids, you're in fucking jail dude, like working out is a whole culture in there.

Then you know say you see some guy on the street your supposed to arrest, is the women going to be able to take control of that person or is every little mishap going to turn into life or death struggle or standoff, seriously man girls shouldn't be police and neither should people with no combat experiance...


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Cuz you have them watch lock up and they can easily get overpowered




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Well not the ones that take the good stuff...


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    #18737429 - 08/21/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Jail can be a somber experience, but when they throw some lifer in your block for good behaviour shit goes down hill very quickly.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: Uzziel]
    #19833695 - 04/12/14 04:29 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not quite sure how you are so sure he stole from these places. Hi, I am his sister...please get your facts straight before placing judgment on anyone..not just my brother. I'm sure in your life you have never done anything wrong, that is why you were the first one to throw the stone. and for your information the first shot that was shot was a complete accident because this untrained police officer tripped off the curb that led to my brothers death. Learn the facts. Thanks


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: bbeckman]
    #19833744 - 04/12/14 04:39 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

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bbeckman said:
I'm not quite sure how you are so sure he stole from these places. Hi, I am his sister...please get your facts straight before placing judgment on anyone..not just my brother. I'm sure in your life you have never done anything wrong, that is why you were the first one to throw the stone. and for your information the first shot that was shot was a complete accident because this untrained police officer tripped off the curb that led to my brothers death. Learn the facts. Thanks




our condolences on your loss but in order to be a police officer you have to
be trained, in order to carry a gun as a cop, you have to have more
training, you're passing judgement while telling others not to pass judgement


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: bbeckman]
    #19833861 - 04/12/14 05:02 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

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bbeckman said:
I'm not quite sure how you are so sure he stole from these places. Hi, I am his sister...please get your facts straight before placing judgment on anyone..not just my brother. I'm sure in your life you have never done anything wrong, that is why you were the first one to throw the stone. and for your information the first shot that was shot was a complete accident because this untrained police officer tripped off the curb that led to my brothers death. Learn the facts. Thanks




Nope, I've never hurt anyone, stolen anything or done anything to warrant a violent situation.

To be honest, I don't really care enough about some drunk 19 year old to search the "hard facts" about his case.

But if you'd like, you can post the police report about what really happened. Thanks.


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: bbeckman]
    #19833873 - 04/12/14 05:04 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

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I am his sister




my condolences for your loss :feelsbadman: :hug:


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Re: Police shoot and kill drunk 19 year old for breaking and entering [Re: bbeckman]
    #19833893 - 04/12/14 05:12 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

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