Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: North Spore Injection Grain Bag   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate   Amanita Muscaria Store Amanita Muscaria

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
Offlineslacknsurf420
Nebula
Male
Registered: 07/02/13
Posts: 113
Last seen: 5 years, 6 months
Amanita Experience
    #18731756 - 08/20/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I know Amanita is not very popular, more specifically, not as well regarded, compared to magic mushrooms. Has anyone any idea why?

The only reason I can believe so, is that I'm begging to get aced by some ordinary magic mushrooms, but I AM NOT LYING, DO NOT FUCK AROUND WITH AMANITA!!!

At least, I've had a +++ that I had to piss on. I had a +++ turn into a ???? (my last trip - and for a while). I had a very solid + turn into a ++/+++ for houuurs, which would hum along and come into again. Wonderful scurvy, a demonic and angelic 24 hour night to day and night again, colorfurl, shameful, hilarious, enlightening, and potentially dangerous experience. One day was simply an all day, ahem, steroid.

How can I classify this... it's sort like Ecstasy, it's steroidal and ephedrine-like qualities make it highly energetic and very easy on the skeletal and muscular tone of our lives.

Then again, it is completely unlike Ex or Speed, it can drag you into bed like 4 pills of 50mg DPH for a long while, and no one will be able to awaken you, but you will wake up! One morning I had awoken in this state and felt panic but relief when I was finally able to wake. Another morning I just woke up outta nowhere (as I wasn't in a dream state) and immediately I was tripping when I was awake (then again I was on a live dose)

And when I say this is like amphetamines or sleeping agents all-in-one, I am blatantly serious. You can not force yourself out of this one, amanita will know if you're tired or full of energy, and will amplify this matter. From this scope we can at least denature the theory that this thing is out to hurt you.

At least... at least until you begin tripping. Now it's not uncommon to sit there for 4 hours and not feel ANYTHING, then reup the dose and fall into a bad state because you OD and weren't patient. Then it's also very easy to OD from the get-go, and not have a method of removing that besides a vomit (which I've never done on fly agaric!?)

Generally I just recommend going slow, eat an 1/8 to start and after a few hours if you feel something just let it ride another few hours before eating more, but if you don't feel anything, try eating HALF what you ate earlier, AT LEAST 4 hours later. If anything the first dose will kick in and you'll have something to keep the roll going.

BIG DOSE (7G) and you will likely fall asleep if you keep it all in your gut. In about, two hours, you will doze. I had a 5 hour energy drink to abstain this and still fell asleep. The ancients knew not to piss/shit all over the place when trying to trip on this (relatively) rare material, because who wants to prowl 50 mile radius in 5 degree weather to feed eight 250 lb 6 1/2 tall Siberians with war axes and a short temper.

ANYWAY, if you eat 7G upfront, fall asleep, and wake up, if you notice you're trippin (and you probably will) CALM THE FUCK DOWN - EAT MORE

I'm serious. You've got know why you're here and if you're big dosin' it, I just recommend this main goal - 7G every 6 hours, for a total of 28G or one ounce in 24hrs for a roughly 36 hours experience. It is not impossible because you will trip through dreams and blackouts on this mushroom plant, and while it may seem long and drawn out, it is evidently extremely powerful substance where time will bend and last an eternity or a flash of lightning. YOU CAN DIE ON THIS SUBSTANCE- HENCE WHY I DOT NOT RECOMMEND EATING MORE THAN YOU CAN HANDLE - YOU ARE YOUR GUIDE TO DOSE- I AM ONLY EXAMPLE

Now I am a small figure with a pretty muscular build, I have a high tolerance for fungus and I have a very high metabolism. I am only ~125lb and I am male

So take this for a scale of reference. My biggest trip was one 13G mushroom that I ate in two meals, roughly 6 hours apart. My other big trip was on the same weight, roughly, just mixed caps and a little more spread out (maybe 4 meals, probably 3, and lasted a good 12hr with 12hr afterglow)

THOSE ARE VERY INTENSE

My 1st time I ate one 4G cap, 4HR later, nothing but some blurry vision nad slight wobble to note, I ate one more 4G cap. DUMB MOVE, big mistake, in 15 or 30min freakin out and tripping my ass off for 3 hours, not visual but extremely spiritually touched in an odd and unsettling way, had to piss but couldn't purge or even provoke the thought of purge when I was +++

Very next day of that day, I ate 2 8G caps and felt zero nausea, and had no visuals, but was evidently stoned off my ass, I was in fighter mode, could do more physical work than I ever deemed possible, but just didn't have that mental clarity or visual aspect that came through on those other days.

To say the least, these are not recreational and not to be fucked with. They will win but they will play nice if you consider them your friend!

Been editing some spelling and grammar, I want to go over the visuals.

There are few kinds of visuals you could encounter. Namely, there are light and shadow.

The more shadow, or the more dark it is outside, just the faintest light can provoke the most strong-sided mentally scared sorts of images and feelings. These are the visuals that can be considered of the delirium, but frankly I would not be surprised if they could kill you. These aren't just shadow figures, these are literally actual animals or beings that will be provoked by your night vision. The only safe route is merely holding faith that they are not real.

On the other end you've got sunny days, you could drag that light into the daytime shadows, work your mental intuition in the middle, and create any imagespace you want, I've come closer and closer to feeling these objects (I've never really tried teleporting a being into my room...). The only limitation is your imagination, so these images do require work, somewhat, but if your mental blocks are knocked out, you head into delirium or spiritual guidance

On that note, there are a couple more types of visuals. You can definitely hit the geometrical, the spatial, breathing walls, etc. Small seems Big, big seems smalls, lines in the horizon, the lore

In a spiritual encounter you will be uncontrollable, you will lack control, but you will have an observatory status. There isn't much you can do but merely observe what happens and use your own mental willpower to keep anything bad from happening. Don't look at the physical body in play as your own, but more as a guideline for how things should happen. Make it a positive role. If your body gets in there it can get funky and you don't want to discourage the spirit encountering you from leaving, as it obviously came through on purpose.


Edited by slacknsurf420 (08/20/13 11:53 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleeMpire420
Suicide Is Bliss
Male User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 07/10/12
Posts: 2,595
Loc: The Fucking Moon
Re: Amanita Experience [Re: slacknsurf420]
    #18732124 - 08/20/13 12:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You do know Amanitas aren't psychedelic, right? They're dissociative. They lack the psychoactive chemical that makes magic mushrooms, well, magic: Psilocybin. That's why they're not talked about with ordinary psilocybin containing magic mushrooms.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineslacknsurf420
Nebula
Male
Registered: 07/02/13
Posts: 113
Last seen: 5 years, 6 months
Re: Amanita Experience [Re: eMpire420]
    #18732180 - 08/20/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

IDK for sure about this.

I just think if Halloween had a drug of choice, it'd be the amanita.

And if easter or 4th of july had a drug of choice, it'd be magic mushrooms.

I definitely did get visuals, but definitely a different visual. My vizzies with magic shrooms tend towards the abstract or UFO-like, or just general hues changing alongside the melting face and hands, walls that feel like jello and breathe, and faces that look like pudding.

So that can be psychedelic, but magic shrroms have hit me in delirium before to, but I consider those lame trips.

The thing is with amanita, the delirium can be a lot stronger not unlike a deadly nightshade, but it is still colorful depending on the spectrum of high you're in, it's just a wider spectrum because it is considered poison and at the same time a serious entheogen. But life isn't recreational? Heh

Still, I disagree. I definitely have had those notes where I felt like it could have fallen into that state of being where everything is just plain hilarious.

One thing to note, when I get high on psilocin the main trigger for me is the nose. If I smell that smell, it is unavoidable at that point and all the other effects become potent. It's a spicey smell that reminds me of blood but does not taste like salt at all.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAgentchewy
Pantheism.
 User Gallery

Registered: 12/12/12
Posts: 3,960
Loc: vietnam Flag
Last seen: 1 year, 4 months
Re: Amanita Experience [Re: slacknsurf420]
    #18732508 - 08/20/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Psychedelic implies mind manifesting,


--------------------


If I knew the way, I would take you home.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineslacknsurf420
Nebula
Male
Registered: 07/02/13
Posts: 113
Last seen: 5 years, 6 months
Re: Amanita Experience [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18735879 - 08/21/13 05:05 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Erm, psychedelic to me is more of a manifestation itself, its own framework of our sixth sense door being wide open

whereas self-manifesting (which is what the visuals were attributing to under the agaric), is like saying what you want to see and then it would be revealed. I had this giant enigma I had created and it was incredibly lavish yet subtle played, like it was in the sixth, but then I would plead for a stack of casino chips and I could see and feel them and smell them but failed to remove them from the place they would reside

I never had that under magic mushies, my mind is more mushy with them in a fun way or a spiritual way

Amanita is dangerously crystal clear in the mind so that you can pull off your own tricks, but when it reveals its own manifestation its not cool or even pretty, but rather disturbing or scary, and these visuals are ones you can attribute to the first five senses than merely the sixth

that is fucking astonishing to me, that drug can whip up real hallucinations residing originally in the astral level to become apparently real in the this real plane, real enough I'm kind of scared of doing these in the dark. What if the power went out and you had no choice but to flip through a cabinet with nothing but a match and these shadow beings are tickling the back of your neck!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleOldHam
 User Gallery


Registered: 07/19/13
Posts: 1,566
Re: Amanita Experience [Re: slacknsurf420]
    #18736146 - 08/21/13 06:45 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I did a few caps, many years ago and just felt a very light anti-depressive effect.  :paradissunsmall:


--------------------
The Shallows, Chapter 7, Nicholas Carr


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinezoom_zoom_shroom
Sub Seeker!!
 User Gallery


Registered: 03/20/13
Posts: 267
Loc: Land of the subs!!
Last seen: 6 years, 7 months
Re: Amanita Experience [Re: OldHam]
    #18736509 - 08/21/13 09:08 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

From what I've seen from trip reports and sources like erowid, I've always thought of Amanita to be some kind of hybrid Hallucinogen, like a 3 way split of psychedelic, dissociative, and deliriant.

Never tried though, so definitely take that thought with a grain of salt. Don't know if ill ever be quite the Psychonaut to try Amanita.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineflickedbic
Sojourner
Male User Gallery


Registered: 03/21/11
Posts: 4,673
Loc: Fractalic Fabric
Last seen: 2 hours, 39 minutes
Re: Amanita Experience [Re: zoom_zoom_shroom]
    #18736894 - 08/21/13 10:55 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Congratulations on a lovely report and guide slacknsurf420.

Quote:

You do know Amanitas aren't psychedelic, right?



No
Quote:

(...) I've always thought of Amanita to be some kind of hybrid Hallucinogen, like a 3 way split of psychedelic, dissociative, and deliriant.



This.


Recycle your urine (80% muscimol excreted and toxins removed first pass)a couple/few times for a much cleaner and stronger experience.

It's def. psychedelic.

This is a great video I feel enlightens some as to Amanita effects; and it shows the Siberian mushroom; its' land, people and art from the original "shamans".


Shaman is originally from Evenki (Tungusic language of Siberia) šamān
First Known Use: 1698
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shaman




--------------------
Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


Edited by flickedbic (08/21/13 11:10 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinewolf8312
Pennywise
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/01/12
Posts: 2,356
Last seen: 3 days, 22 hours
Re: Amanita Experience [Re: flickedbic]
    #18738215 - 08/21/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I used it many times and in many ways, fresh, dried, extract, sometimes from Europe, sometimes from America! Never once however did I get it to work!


--------------------
"I'm every nightmare you ever had. I am your worst dreams come true. I am everything you ever were afraid of."

Pennywise the dancing clown



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineflickedbic
Sojourner
Male User Gallery


Registered: 03/21/11
Posts: 4,673
Loc: Fractalic Fabric
Last seen: 2 hours, 39 minutes
Re: Amanita Experience [Re: wolf8312]
    #18739100 - 08/21/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Gotta drink that pee... :cheers:


--------------------
Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: North Spore Injection Grain Bag   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate   Amanita Muscaria Store Amanita Muscaria


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Amanita Muscaria Vs. P. Cubensis chemkid 9,265 19 11/01/18 04:40 AM
by somawarrior
* Amanitas vs Psilocybin BlueTalon 4,366 7 08/29/03 02:59 PM
by neuro
* amanita disapointment
( 1 2 all )
AhronZombi 5,311 35 11/23/22 03:27 PM
by relaxedmonk
* The Psychedelic Experience and Enlightenment
( 1 2 3 all )
Kid 22,094 55 10/03/18 10:06 PM
by PrimalSoup
* How many grams of deadly Amanita can kill you?
( 1 2 all )
Pacho 5,458 25 08/12/03 04:20 AM
by whole9
* Trippin' on Amanitas!
( 1 2 all )
methus 4,644 26 06/01/02 07:43 AM
by rb2002
* amanitas help enacid 1,252 11 03/14/03 01:13 PM
by Sterile
* Puking=waste of amanita tea NorseSuncrose 1,064 4 09/09/03 04:44 PM
by NorseSuncrose

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: psilocybinjunkie, Rose, mushboy, LogicaL Chaos, Northerner, bodhisatta
1,908 topic views. 2 members, 57 guests and 11 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.027 seconds spending 0.009 seconds on 14 queries.