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Re: 2nd DMT extraction [Re: ressa69]
    #18729962 - 08/19/13 09:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

236-472ml of solvent? That's way too much and a waste of solvent evaporating so much off, especially for 100g of bark.


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Re: 2nd DMT extraction [Re: K1ngSp4de]
    #18730259 - 08/19/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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A quart mason jar, or possibly a half gallon milk container, glass pickle jar, glass peanut butter jar. Anything glass or hdpe that's big enough really.



yea sorry its whatever i think i can figure it out my real problem is  i only have a turkey baster not a pippette, i need one bad


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Re: 2nd DMT extraction [Re: K1ngSp4de]
    #18730267 - 08/19/13 10:47 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

no i wasnt talking about the naptha i meant the mix of water/vinegar/A.C


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Re: 2nd DMT extraction [Re: ressa69]
    #18730277 - 08/19/13 10:50 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Another issue you may be having is one with the recrystallization process.

You want a minimal amount of solvent(naptha) to recrystallize. So if you extract with some extra naptha, which you should (use the stuff from the hardware store in the paint section, not lighter fluid), you will need to let most of it evaporate before you put it in the freezer to get crystals.

DO NOT EVAPORATE ALL OF IT OFF. THIS DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF EXTRACTION.

When you have maybe 1/4 of a cup of naptha from an initial 1-2 cups used for extraction, put it in a jar in the freezer and you will not be disappointed. After that, carefully dump out the naptha, leaving the crystals in the bottom.

Skip the wash step, they are pure enough at this point and washing will just make you lose product. Put the jar in front of a fan to dry the extra naptha in the bottom. This should only take a few minutes. When the jar has no naptha smell in it, seal it and put it in the freezer for safe keeping.

Keep in mind that over time the DMT will oxidize and become more waxy. This is normal.



ok yea i get exactly what your saying ,thanks for the info


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Re: 2nd DMT extraction [Re: ressa69]
    #18730300 - 08/19/13 10:54 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Another issue you may be having is one with the recrystallization process.

You want a minimal amount of solvent(naptha) to recrystallize. So if you extract with some extra naptha, which you should (use the stuff from the hardware store in the paint section, not lighter fluid), you will need to let most of it evaporate before you put it in the freezer to get crystals.

DO NOT EVAPORATE ALL OF IT OFF. THIS DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF EXTRACTION.

When you have maybe 1/4 of a cup of naptha from an initial 1-2 cups used for extraction, put it in a jar in the freezer and you will not be disappointed. After that, carefully dump out the naptha, leaving the crystals in the bottom.

Skip the wash step, they are pure enough at this point and washing will just make you lose product. Put the jar in front of a fan to dry the extra naptha in the bottom. This should only take a few minutes. When the jar has no naptha smell in it, seal it and put it in the freezer for safe keeping.

Keep in mind that over time the DMT will oxidize and become more waxy. This is normal.



wait a second so your saying that i can use a large amount of naptha just let some evap before throwing it in the freezer?


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Re: 2nd DMT extraction [Re: dakotaellis166]
    #18730353 - 08/19/13 11:12 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

also kingspade have you done a.c freebase ?what do you think of the nmt/dmt mix?


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Re: 2nd DMT extraction [Re: dakotaellis166]
    #18730476 - 08/19/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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no i wasnt talking about the naptha i meant the mix of water/vinegar/A.C




I was talking to the other guy who said 1-2 cups of naptha.

Don't use that much naptha 120ml at the most each pull.

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A quart mason jar, or possibly a half gallon milk container, glass pickle jar, glass peanut butter jar. Anything glass or hdpe that's big enough really.



yea sorry its whatever i think i can figure it out my real problem is  i only have a turkey baster not a pippette, i need one bad




You can generally just pour it off, Turkey basters suck anyways they are a good way to get naptha and DMT all over your workspace.

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also kingspade have you done a.c freebase ?what do you think of the nmt/dmt mix?




Yhea I've done it a few times, I really like the spatial feel and the color from the NMT. The room seems like it got 3 times bigger, and for me it adds yellows, whites, and sit like that. Pretty fun.


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Re: 2nd DMT extraction [Re: K1ngSp4de]
    #18730593 - 08/20/13 12:44 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

ok cool ,and when you say pour it off i tried last time it didnt work so well ,how many pulls do you think you could do with 100g


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Re: 2nd DMT extraction [Re: dakotaellis166]
    #18730599 - 08/20/13 12:47 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

and yes you are right about getting naptha everywhere ,i might just use a medicine dropper and take it nice and slow (i tried that last time it took forever, so i took it outside to scrape it on concrete to make the hole a tad bigger ,it broke) :mad2:


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Re: 2nd DMT extraction [Re: K1ngSp4de]
    #18730617 - 08/20/13 12:54 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

now let me get a 2000ml elenmeyer flask ,and ill pour that shit right off :thumbup:


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Re: 2nd DMT extraction [Re: dakotaellis166]
    #18730816 - 08/20/13 03:21 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: 2nd DMT extraction [Re: dakotaellis166]
    #18730828 - 08/20/13 03:30 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Warming the naptha is good for seperations!! remember when you warm it up place the naptha into a glass jug and then place the glass jug into a hot bath.


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Re: 2nd DMT extraction [Re: Psychotria]
    #18730857 - 08/20/13 03:54 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

for defatting ? or just in general?


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Re: 2nd DMT extraction [Re: dakotaellis166]
    #18730882 - 08/20/13 04:13 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

for both Naptha extraction and defatting. heat makes seperation easier and faster!


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Re: 2nd DMT extraction [Re: Psychotria]
    #18730885 - 08/20/13 04:17 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

so i dont really get defatting....how much dmt am i waisting by defating ?


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Re: 2nd DMT extraction [Re: dakotaellis166]
    #18730907 - 08/20/13 04:33 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

None because only oils and inactives are soluble into the naptha at this point.


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Re: 2nd DMT extraction [Re: Psychotria]
    #18730917 - 08/20/13 04:42 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

ok oh yea cause your doing it before you base it:tongue:


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Re: 2nd DMT extraction [Re: dakotaellis166]
    #18730993 - 08/20/13 05:44 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Thats right! :thumbup:


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Re: 2nd DMT extraction [Re: Psychotria]
    #18731016 - 08/20/13 06:01 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

yaaay! man when i first got into this it seemed like rocket science but no it just average chemistry .Im loving this info on NMT i want to try and isolate it but then again its so great mixed with the dmt ,veryone thinks they go great together, but i cant get MHRB so iv given up on my dream for big yellow crystals . But i love the goo too. but anyway i should be doing the extraction today if i can get my brothers scale.


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Re: 2nd DMT extraction [Re: dakotaellis166]
    #18731031 - 08/20/13 06:11 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

but anyway im going to do the defat, can i get some time frames like how long should the naptha sit on the vinegar/a.c for the defat. And then how long for the pulls after the lime is added?


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