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uncle_rico
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oyster box (pics)
#18699972 - 08/13/13 02:39 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey guys,
Greetings. I've been playing around with Pleurotus Ostreatus on various substrates and in various containers for growing outside in the shade.
Lately, at the recommendation of guys at this site, I have been doing straight bagasse with some gypsum. I don't have it figured out completely and still have some projects fail to colonize 100% ... but I am making some headway and am enjoying myself.
Latest projects are 3 plastic bread bags and 2 cardboard boxes.
Of the 3 bags, 1 colonized completely and is fruiting. The other 2 bags have stalled somewhat at about 80% .. looks like there may be some competition with bacteria. Here are a couple of pics of the fruiting bag,
 
I also decided to try a couple of boxes. Here is the rye spawn. 
I used 2 qts of spawn for a medium size box.
put in a shallow layer of bagasse and then sprinkled in some spawn .. then more bagasse and more spawn until the box was filled. (following what I have seen others do here)
 
It's been about a week or maybe 10 days and one of the boxes is fruiting. The other is a few days behind.
  
Fun and yummy. Thanks to all those who have advised.
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Edited by uncle_rico (08/15/13 02:46 AM)
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wildernessjunkie
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Oeric McKenna
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That is damn cool man
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Wow, nice! Which pearl strain is that?
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uncle_rico
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from SporeWorks.
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uncle_rico
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some updated pics (a day later).
  the bread bag
  the 2nd oyster box doing its thing top and bottom
 1st box
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Aloha Medicinals also has some amazing P.o strains. P.o PL has some of the biggest fruit bodies I have every seen. Chief Niwot colonizes bags very quickly, and Brat combines these two traits to colonize quickly and produce amazing large mushrooms! Do you know the BE of the strain you are using yet?
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cubenpete
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Very Nice! Wonder what the chance of me finding crushed sugar cane here in Kentucky...
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wildernessjunkie
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cubenpete said:
Very Nice! Wonder what the chance of me finding crushed sugar cane here in Kentucky...
I bet shredded corn stalks would work just as well. Oysters will grow on damn near anything. Straw, wood chips, dry weeds, sawdust...there's bound to be something in your area.
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uncle_rico
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HT, I am very new to oyster cultivation ... just now getting the substrate to fully colonize. I don't have any idea about the BE of this type of project.
cubenpete, I'm with wildernessjunkie, I'll bet you can find something locally that the oysters love. luckily, we've got mountains of bagasse here. if we didn't have bagasse, the land fill has mountains of composted green waste (yard trimmings) that I think would also work well.
maybe try some of that in the future. also interested in more cardboard.
more pics of the boxes.
  box 1
  looks like box 2 will have nice clusters on two sides.
can't wait to dunk these boxes .. to see if they will go again.
thanks guys
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Very nice duder. I love turning waste into FOOD! Was just thinking earlier....the flaw of unwrapped subs is less flushes due to drying... Not yeild loss per se' but I like "prolonging the fun" of watching them appear... Then it hit me shredded PAPER wrapped in logs! so I'm on it as soon as I get a day off... Maybe sunday...
The cool thing about paper besides freecycling is NO PASTEURIZATION prep. Always remember the difference between "will support growth" & "will germinate spores readily" Its too easy to succeed.
I must order more syringes so I can give away this culture for free to mass amounts of people. I still fail to see how any culture is worth hundreds of dollors..oh yeah umm, greed. I can buy a 15 foot apple tree for like 15$ to put this lack of value in perspective.
I'm talking free cultures, free shipping. Oh I finally got that arvensis to fly on agar...finally
So hey, the sight of these boxes gets me amped up every time! Keep up the good work sir
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beautiful! i cant get mine to fruit!! yours look great though. i'm jealous!
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uncle_rico
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"I love turning waste into FOOD!" Oeric, I totally agree.
Took an old substrate that had been sitting for a month, broke it in two and hosed it down. A few days later it was growing green .. so I put it in the garden .. and now it is producing some fruits again.
 
The substrates in the plastic bread bags that I thought had bacteria and had stalled, started to fruit.

1st box was harvested and dunked. 2nd box continues:
  
 
special thanks to my Uncle Sam for the nice boxes.
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psilocybebonsai
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rico,
how do you initiate pinning from a box like that? does the light just hit the holes and they fruit from those points? what about all the other substrate, where does it fruit?? i know its a general question but since you're here....
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uncle_rico
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Basically, when I loaded the boxes with bagasse (straw) and rye spawn the excess moisture (it seems like it is completely squeezed out ..) ... the excess moisture wets the dry box .. making a damp package.
I put the damp box into a tub with the lid sitting sideways ... so there is air but not too much drying. You can't open the box to check on the colonization because you would rip the mycelial network (the bagasse is colonized and it jumps to the cardboard .. so if you opened the box, you would disturb this connection).
anyway .. about a week later, I noticed growth on the outside of the box ... initially over the gaps where the box flaps are folded .. but also mushroom growth right on the flat surface of the cardboard.
then, I took the boxes out of the tub, hosed them down, placed them out in the air and continued to 'water' them every few days.
the fruits grow right out of the cardboard. when you harvest, some of the cardboard rips off with the base of the cluster.
I haven't looked inside the boxes yet. I imagine the contents are completely colonized. the whole thing is ridiculously easy.
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psilocybebonsai
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wow thats incredible. please keep posting images even after you rip open the box! its very interesting thanks
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Awesome project! I love to see alternative fruiting containers and there never seems to be an end of cardboard boxes around here.
Might i ask what climate are you in? whats the area the boxes reside at like as far as humidity, temperature and lighting?
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uncle_rico
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well.. dMANd,
I am on the Hawaiian Islands.
So, all of these are outside, in the shade, temps. between 65 and 85 degrees F, humidity 50 to 70%, constant breeze.
I would like to fruit out of a wall of 5 gallon plastic buckets sitting in a shady, gravel spot that gets hosed down regularly. I am just now getting the bulk substrate colonization figured out ... which is why I have been trying various containers etc. we'll see if I can get the buckets fully colonized.
the month old substrate I threw out into the garden is fruiting and getting eaten by something. slug? snail? or rat? 
The two plastic bread bags that had bacteria going and had stalled .. did better when I 'aired them out' and are fruiting.
 
fun playing around with it.
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psilocybebonsai
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Looks pretty good. i still cant get my baskets to fruit for the life of me and thats staying close to optimal parameters than what you've said. I'm guessing my FAE and my light are poor.
Anyways, good job. i like this thread
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Hawaii sounds pretty damn awesome for mushroom growing.
p.bonsai, keep in mind that primordia like to form under very high humidity, nearing 90-99% and also imo the biggest fruiting trigger is a 100% colonized substrate.
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