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Back to Salvia after a long long break
    #18723961 - 08/18/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Salvia was my first psychedelic ever. Before shrooms, lsd, dmt, ayahuasca and mescaline, I only had access to Salvia. A short short trip that sometimes takes weeks and months to process, and even now, years later, I still chuckle at some of the crazier ones :lol:

I put it aside for a long time, just growing it out of habit, not actually taking it much. A few days ago I got an impulse to get some windproof lighters again and light up, like in the old days.

I was smoking basic leaf. I do have extract as well but due to reverse tolerance find I don't really need it, saving it for noobs.

I packed my hookah (don't have a bong atm, using this instead) and put Salvia lighting in the room. Super low, candles and some colored LED lights. Started burning it and huffing and puffing, and when that old amazing flavor hit me, I was immediately transported to my first trips years ago. Loooooooong toke. Looooong. When smoking leaf, my plan is to take 3 tokes, then close eyes and lay back while holding in the third one.

I then realize that the cheapo lighter I found doesn't have enough gas, and is about to run out. I start mentally wondering where I left my gas spray, to refill it. I realize I have no idea where it is, certainly not close. I start wondering if I smoked enough on this first toke, to now have to wait it out. I decide nah, it's probably negligible. I want to get up and start searching, then it hits me.

Whooooooh.....  phew .... and I drop on the bed, some very chill music in my earphones.

I feel my thoughts, usually agitated and overactive, slow down to a more healthy, regular pace. I feel my body sloooooow dooooooooown so pleasantly, as in a nice sleep, dozing off calmly towards the colorful soft mists of the Salvia lands.

Hmmm.... lighterrrr... mmmm....

Twirls are twirling around like ballerinas, lights and wisps are dancing around to the music all around me. I'm not quite out there yet, but I'm sure as hell not getting up for a while.

I listen and drift away, count one song, then two, then three ... was it four? Five already? Mmmmm so nice ...

And then about 30+ mins later (judging by the songs in the playlist), it's finally out of my system, and I can resume my regular activities. Very refreshing, very mild, definitely calmed me down, brought a nice oasis of serenity in an otherwise busy aggitated head full of mind chatter. As pretty much all the times I've ever smoked before, I am left wondering, why didn't I do this sooner? Why didn't I do this more often? Much needless stress and worry would have been averted :lol:

Turns out the lighters I bought aren't even refillable, cheap useless Chinese crap. Will need a new one. However I am now determined to get back into a healthy Salvia habit, as both in high dose and low dose it has so many great things to offer :heart::heart::heart:


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: Spacerific]
    #18724185 - 08/18/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Right on,

Its been quite a few years for me since lady S has pulled back her veil. It was my first psychedelic experience too. I always felt refreshed and happy to be home when I re entered through the door of ordinary consiousness.


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: weshroom]
    #18724915 - 08/18/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

salvia?

FUCK THAT SHIT.


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: Delarge]
    #18729251 - 08/19/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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salvia?

FUCK THAT SHIT.



:lol:

Had a bad trip?

Were you doing it right?

I've seen that reaction many times, then when I ask about the light level in the room, ambient noise level, being interrupted by retards in the room, at least one of them was the cause.
For me, only times when I've had any weird experiences was too much light in the room (like daylight) or being interrupted. Everything else was always :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

True I've never tried extracts over 20x, nor do I think it wise to do so, especially for first timers. Youtube is full of bad Sally trips, most of em simply doing it wrong.


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: Spacerific]
    #18729275 - 08/19/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Have you ever watched 'Gardening on Salvia' or 'Driving on Salvia' on YouTube?  They are moslty made for the purpose of comedy but salvia does get smoked.

If you have seen them what are your reactions, feelings and thoughts about the videos?

Sorry for the off topic question I am just curious as I want to do Salvia some day, I just don't think i'm ready yet.


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: ManInTheMountains]
    #18729453 - 08/19/13 07:58 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Have you ever watched 'Gardening on Salvia' or 'Driving on Salvia' on YouTube?  They are moslty made for the purpose of comedy but salvia does get smoked.

If you have seen them what are your reactions, feelings and thoughts about the videos?

Sorry for the off topic question I am just curious as I want to do Salvia some day, I just don't think i'm ready yet.



Of course I've seen them, Eric your host is a fucking amazing dude :lol:

I can say that IMO yes, those are quite genuine, it's real Salvia being smoked there all three times. Now having smoked it myself in all sorts of conditions, I would never ever EVER smoke it again in daylight. Especially if you're experienced you can do it and won't freak out, but it's just very very annoying. Like trying to sleep with the light in your face. Doable but not ok. The same thing smoked at night will give you a way better experience. For me at least, Salvia is completely internal. No good comes from being out in nature or anything like that. It's not shrooms, it's not opening you up to the outside. It's all internal, your body just needs a place to rest while your awareness teleports away. Far, far away.

As for you being ready, I can only share what Salvia told me many, many, many times. Why do you smoke so rarely? That's the feeling I always get after it kicks in, bringing immediate calm and relaxation. Seeing how it would have helped, if I smoked it a little more often. Why didn't I do this way more often? And after a long break, I am now determined to come back to it more regularly. Time's going to tell on the results.

Judging by your sig, if you smoked even one of those joints and are now alive and well, you're more than ready for Salvia :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
I've had bad trips and weird head vibes from smoking too much weed, weird body feels and temporal distortions, nothing like that ever came from Salvia. Even the strangest teleports to the most un-Englishable galaxies and dimensions, have always left me smiling and full of life, cheerful for days. Please see my how to, and if you can get it, light it up. It's a wonderful voyage :nyan:


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: Spacerific]
    #18729576 - 08/19/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the response!

I read your how to smoking salvia guide and it all makes sense to me. As of now I don't have any way to aquire Salvia, which is a contributing factor into why I haven't tried it yet. I have a friend I know through the stoner circut who always is talking about buying some Salvia online so I may need to convince him to acctually do it so I can grab a bit!

I know that I can probrolly smoke some Salvia and be fine, I just don't think I have enough balls to acctually do it :tongue:. I think i'm scared of the dissasociative affect of it, but honestly i'm just scared of tripping out that hard. In time though. I've smoked DMT twice but haven't broken through due to not smoking enough, is Salvia anywhere like DMT?

Another question: does Salvia leave a smell in the room you smoke it in like weed does? It doesn't matter too much i'm just curious.


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: ManInTheMountains]
    #18729820 - 08/19/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

The smell is minty, it does smell like smoke but nobody will know you've been up to anything too weird. It's not that strong.

I've only smoked DMT once, and had a very very small amount. Sally on the other hand I've smoked lots of times in all kinds of doses. Very hard to compare. Seriously look at the art of Jacek Yerka, that's (at least to me) a lot like what the Salvia lands look like.



The dissociative effect, at least for me, was quite awesome. I call it the "visitor". Basically someone/something else takes over your body for a few minutes, and you get to share memories, impressions, etc. Imagine yourself entering someone else's head, and you get to see their body, clothes, room, etc. Now the thing is, they might think they're fat/ugly or whatever, and have issues with that, but since that's not your body, you actually have a fully fresh perspective. Like if you're in a girl, you'd really be into her breasts :lol:

So what happens is that a fully fresh identity like that, occupies your head in some trips, and you get to see how they feel about you, life, your memories, etc. Memorable examples for me are the bipedal reptilian, that was quite amused that our skin wasn't green, we have no proper hunt claws, no head spikes, dubious fur on the skull, and our snout is incredibly short with useless non-carnivorous teeth. Felt very royal though, not primitive at all. The other amazing one was a tall black Zulu hunter / warfare specialist, that as soon as it entered my head, was ready and looking for something to kill. Either enemies in warfare, or prey in a hunt. Some fantastic amounts of violence were at the ready, against anything standing before him. Was floored realizing that he ended up in some European dude's room, with a computer and no victims to kill. Left terrible threats and warnings, not to waste his time again. Anyway these fresh identities are a treasure of insights and different perspectives on the world. Many of them are so weird you can't even English them at all.

Fun fact: you can't write with a pen, but you can type on a keyboard during a sally trip. Try it, with a sitter on some instant messenger. You'll soon find that the thing typing isn't you, it's the visitor. Very distinct from you. They'll actually have opinions about you, maybe messages, impressions, a different world view, and it will be quite clear that it's not you talking. You're on standby, witnessing. Highly educational :biggrin:


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: Spacerific]
    #18729837 - 08/19/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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salvia?

FUCK THAT SHIT.



:lol:

Had a bad trip?

Were you doing it right?

I've seen that reaction many times, then when I ask about the light level in the room, ambient noise level, being interrupted by retards in the room, at least one of them was the cause.
For me, only times when I've had any weird experiences was too much light in the room (like daylight) or being interrupted. Everything else was always :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

True I've never tried extracts over 20x, nor do I think it wise to do so, especially for first timers. Youtube is full of bad Sally trips, most of em simply doing it wrong.




Nice guide. I too love doing salvia, but everyone else I talk to tells me they hate it. Perhaps it's because my room has these conditions like you describe? It's very loungey, I have lantern lights and eastern art everywhere, and I listen to chill out music all the time.


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: sukhavati12]
    #18729882 - 08/19/13 09:29 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I too am about to try salvia again after probally a 7 or 8 yr (ordered last thurs) hope i enjoy its as much as you did


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
    #18730100 - 08/19/13 10:08 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Wanna hear a story about my dumbass and salvia? Too bad, i need my post count up.

About a month ago, after a long night and a fight with my girlfriend. I came home alone. I sat and thought about my life on the back porch for a while and became severely depressed. After several failed attempts at sleeping, I decided I didn't want to have to think anymore. I smoked a pack of cigarettes, drank a 5th of Jack (on top of already being plastered), 3 bowls of weed, and downed almost a whole bottle of ZzzzQuil. 2 hours past and I was still awake, wallowing in my own depressing bitch thoughts. Then I remembered my roommate had some salvia. I had only done it once and it wasn't the best thing, very strange and confusing but definitely a strong psychedelic. I grabbed it and went back in my room and took a giant rip out of my bong. I was trying to kill everything bad inside of me, but not particularly myself. Don't ask me why I thought this was a good idea, because it wasn't. Anyway, I was trying to decide what music to put on when it hit me, fast. I clicked on the first thing that looked appealing and crawled into bed. Ready to.. well basically die in a sense. To my surprise the song I had picked had been put on repeat, thus started one of the worst experiences of my entire life.

As I layed in bed I could feel my body being overcome by all these substances at once, it felt extremely uncomfortable, but I still had control of what was happening because I could see everything in my room. Although I was uncomfortable I knew from my previous psychedelic experiences  that it was better to just "let go" and just ride it out. I did. Bad mistake. I could tell everything that was about to come was going to be awful and I should get myself out of this situation as soon as possible, maybe go outside or something.. In that moment, my computer went to sleep.. Now this is when I was utterly and completely FUCKED. I closed my eyes, and saw nothing. I opened my eyes and saw nothing. Then, I was nothing. I could hear high pitched wizzing noises zipping in and out through my body. Coming out of my fingers, my stomach, the top of my head, everywhere. I opened my eyes and couldn't make out anything (when I'm on psychedelics as long as SOMETHING is REAL i can keep it under control) but no. It was completely black, and loud, and painful (when I say painful I don't exactly mean physical pain; more of an awful anguish feeling). I thought for sure I had I died. I was dying in this space of nothingness.  Imagine being NOTHING with a conscious, knowing you're going to be even more nothing, awful. I wish I would have died to rescue me from this. It seemed like it went on for years, decades, ages. I would have much rather gone to hell than to experience this nothingness. Then I got what I wished for.... and i went to hell. Or what is currently my image of hell. Large dancing colorful flames were engulfing my body, I couldn't move. I didn't know if I was breathing or even alive at this point, in my mind I had died in my bed and gone to where I belonged. All i could focus on were these geometric neon evil flames, these flames and lines took shape of entities, and the one that liked to hang around most was a big man in a dark vibrant glowing cloak emitting nothing but pure anger and evil dancing frantically all around me and screaming obscenities at me (Google The Zozobra Festival in Santa Fe, NM. Kinda resembled that asshole). He seemed to be enjoying watching me go through this horrible pain and suffering. I couldn't move or think or do anything. The only thing I could do was hear myself scream. I could hear myself screaming "HELP ME, FUCKING HELP OH MY GOD WHAT THE FUCK HELP ME". Suddenly my light came on, I came shooting back into my reality and saw my roommate at my doorway scared shitless asking if I was alright. I was speechless, I didn't know if he was real or if I was really back, until I puked my fucking guts out and felt like everything bad came out of me.

So yeah, I had successfully killed myself. Gone to hell. And came back to life. This whole experience changed me and I turned my life completely around. I've been sober (except for smoking weed and shrooms) since. Very fucked up, but I'm glad it happened cause I'm not a cry baby drug addicted shit head anymore.


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: Spacerific]
    #18730102 - 08/19/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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The smell is minty, it does smell like smoke but nobody will know you've been up to anything too weird. It's not that strong.

I've only smoked DMT once, and had a very very small amount. Sally on the other hand I've smoked lots of times in all kinds of doses. Very hard to compare. Seriously look at the art of Jacek Yerka, that's (at least to me) a lot like what the Salvia lands look like.



The dissociative effect, at least for me, was quite awesome. I call it the "visitor". Basically someone/something else takes over your body for a few minutes, and you get to share memories, impressions, etc. Imagine yourself entering someone else's head, and you get to see their body, clothes, room, etc. Now the thing is, they might think they're fat/ugly or whatever, and have issues with that, but since that's not your body, you actually have a fully fresh perspective. Like if you're in a girl, you'd really be into her breasts :lol:

So what happens is that a fully fresh identity like that, occupies your head in some trips, and you get to see how they feel about you, life, your memories, etc. Memorable examples for me are the bipedal reptilian, that was quite amused that our skin wasn't green, we have no proper hunt claws, no head spikes, dubious fur on the skull, and our snout is incredibly short with useless non-carnivorous teeth. Felt very royal though, not primitive at all. The other amazing one was a tall black Zulu hunter / warfare specialist, that as soon as it entered my head, was ready and looking for something to kill. Either enemies in warfare, or prey in a hunt. Some fantastic amounts of violence were at the ready, against anything standing before him. Was floored realizing that he ended up in some European dude's room, with a computer and no victims to kill. Left terrible threats and warnings, not to waste his time again. Anyway these fresh identities are a treasure of insights and different perspectives on the world. Many of them are so weird you can't even English them at all.

Fun fact: you can't write with a pen, but you can type on a keyboard during a sally trip. Try it, with a sitter on some instant messenger. You'll soon find that the thing typing isn't you, it's the visitor. Very distinct from you. They'll actually have opinions about you, maybe messages, impressions, a different world view, and it will be quite clear that it's not you talking. You're on standby, witnessing. Highly educational :biggrin:




Wow, that sounds insane, very intriging.

I have a questiom about that last part you wrote about, how you can type but not write. So let's say I smoke some Salvia and start talking to my friend over the internet, will I remember what I say during the conversation? And when I look at the conversation later will it seem like an entierly differnt person (or entity) wrote it? I'm sorry i'm pretty confused, but this idea is just mindblowing to me!

Also about the art, I love psycadelic art, especially DMT art, thanks for posting that video! :thumbup:


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: ManInTheMountains]
    #18730447 - 08/19/13 11:36 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

i did it right.
in a dim room, without the lights on.
from a bong.
with a really powerful lighters.


and salvia 100x.


the high was amazing.


it was what happened to me after i came down.

i got so high i died.

they don't call it salvia of the ghosts for nothing. :blueangel:


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: MarlboroTooth]
    #18730948 - 08/20/13 05:06 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Wanna hear a story about my dumbass and salvia? Too bad, i need my post count up



That's a very strange way to start a post mate, I wouldn't spell it out like that in the future :lol:

I think you got the best possible result out of your crap trip, in the sense of the alcohol aversion. I have that too by the way. One evening I had a great sally trip, was awesome, and the next day I saw a hobo drunk in the metro, doing that drunken slow blink, struggling to stay on his feet. That very instant, I could empathize with what his clogged brain must work like, with all the shit inside, and then my brain completely revolted. Physically, there was a super strong NO FUCKING WAY sensation about alcohol. I could feel it in my head, complete aversion. I was never much of a drinker, but right then I turned into a very determined active avoider of it. Anything beyond a champagne glass for major events is a complete no-no over here.

If you were a serious alcohol drinker and Sally helped you switch it off, I'd say that's a major upgrade right there. Both brain and liver have probably raised temples to Salvia and are singing songs of it :lol:

Not sure if you'll ever feel like trying it again, but you should know that the un-intoxicated Salvia lands (without alcohol in your system, good music, proper trip lights) are quite fantastic.

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I have a questiom about that last part you wrote about, how you can type but not write.



Well the writing with a pen you've seen on Writing a letter to congress on Salvia by Eric your host. That's quite accurate. I've tried drawing sketching writing with a pen, nothing really works, because you lack the complex motor skills for all those wiggles. On the other hand I've tried typing on a keyboard and it works at 100% full speed, you type like a man on a mission :thumbup:

This leads to a very interesting event, as shamans have been having Sally to trip on for a long time, but none of them has had a keyboard, which is the only tool available for reporting in real time. Your voice is out of order, can't really speak without ruining the trip, and your memory is quick to forget or mix up the facts. The real time writing of things, as they happen, that's a fantastic record, unavailable before these times.

I for one wasn't clear on how the "visitor" effect happens, until I've done this and seen what's being written during the experience. Several visitors referred to me, like Space will like this when he's back or whatever. You do have full memory, continuous, you remember how the text was written, by your hands as seen from your eyes, but the text itself is clearly not yours. For what it's worth, I can tell you that all of my visitors were thinking of me (Space) as being in the same brain, somewhere to the left. So to bring this full circle, the dissociative effect of Salvia, as far as I've experienced it, is a lot like turning the right side of your brain into an open landing pad, for outside visitors, from out there :lol:

What I suspect is more likely happening, is that your brain has certain regions going active, in very uncharacteristic combinations that your normal identity has never used before, ever. Far far from your normal habits of which centers fire up when. So parts that have never been active together, are now active together for the first time. This gives you a completely fresh view of the world for a while, and that new identity has very little to do with your usual ones, that you've identified with for all your life. Hence it can only relate to "you" as a completely distinct person from itself, because indeed it is different, it notices different things, processes information differently, and would act/react very differently than "you" would in most life situations. As you can see these are things that are quite hard to English well, and are best tried directly.
Hmm talking about this has made me want to light up a bowl and see who shows up :alientransform:

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and salvia 100x.


the high was amazing.


it was what happened to me after i came down.

i got so high i died.



I think the 100x may be the issue there. Was it your first time? Would you take 7 tabs of LSD for your first LSD trip? I've only played with extracts under 20x and basic leaf in all these years. With the strong extracts, the initial roller coaster gets way too intense if you take full on bong rips. It's very strong, very fast, and 90% of it is impossible to remember, express or make sense of afterwards. I think the key might be to take in a more manageable dose, and you can certainly toke again if you want to keep going. I've had back to back trips like that of 30-40 minutes, so it's doable but not on super strong extracts.

Anyway it seems like everybody had some kind of interesting times on this fine herb, thanks for sharing :heart:


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: sukhavati12]
    #18730952 - 08/20/13 05:11 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Nice guide. I too love doing salvia, but everyone else I talk to tells me they hate it. Perhaps it's because my room has these conditions like you describe? It's very loungey, I have lantern lights and eastern art everywhere, and I listen to chill out music all the time.



Most likely. If you invite people over to your chill room, they'll probably like their sally trips there :tripping:

Just take care with the light levels. Evening/night is best, or well covered windows. First timers you may have to actively remind to close their eyes and lay back, flow and chill with it.


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For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it,
and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.
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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: Spacerific]
    #18730959 - 08/20/13 05:19 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Spacerific said:
Salvia was my first psychedelic ever. Before shrooms, lsd, dmt, ayahuasca and mescaline, I only had access to Salvia. A short short trip that sometimes takes weeks and months to process, and even now, years later, I still chuckle at some of the crazier ones :lol:

I put it aside for a long time, just growing it out of habit, not actually taking it much. A few days ago I got an impulse to get some windproof lighters again and light up, like in the old days.

I was smoking basic leaf. I do have extract as well but due to reverse tolerance find I don't really need it, saving it for noobs.

I packed my hookah (don't have a bong atm, using this instead) and put Salvia lighting in the room. Super low, candles and some colored LED lights. Started burning it and huffing and puffing, and when that old amazing flavor hit me, I was immediately transported to my first trips years ago. Loooooooong toke. Looooong. When smoking leaf, my plan is to take 3 tokes, then close eyes and lay back while holding in the third one.

I then realize that the cheapo lighter I found doesn't have enough gas, and is about to run out. I start mentally wondering where I left my gas spray, to refill it. I realize I have no idea where it is, certainly not close. I start wondering if I smoked enough on this first toke, to now have to wait it out. I decide nah, it's probably negligible. I want to get up and start searching, then it hits me.

Whooooooh.....  phew .... and I drop on the bed, some very chill music in my earphones.

I feel my thoughts, usually agitated and overactive, slow down to a more healthy, regular pace. I feel my body sloooooow dooooooooown so pleasantly, as in a nice sleep, dozing off calmly towards the colorful soft mists of the Salvia lands.

Hmmm.... lighterrrr... mmmm....

Twirls are twirling around like ballerinas, lights and wisps are dancing around to the music all around me. I'm not quite out there yet, but I'm sure as hell not getting up for a while.

I listen and drift away, count one song, then two, then three ... was it four? Five already? Mmmmm so nice ...

And then about 30+ mins later (judging by the songs in the playlist), it's finally out of my system, and I can resume my regular activities. Very refreshing, very mild, definitely calmed me down, brought a nice oasis of serenity in an otherwise busy aggitated head full of mind chatter. As pretty much all the times I've ever smoked before, I am left wondering, why didn't I do this sooner? Why didn't I do this more often? Much needless stress and worry would have been averted :lol:

Turns out the lighters I bought aren't even refillable, cheap useless Chinese crap. Will need a new one. However I am now determined to get back into a healthy Salvia habit, as both in high dose and low dose it has so many great things to offer :heart::heart::heart:




What extract do you usually smoke

And do leaves do the same for you now as it?


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: lessismore]
    #18730961 - 08/20/13 05:19 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Dealextreme has both 1mg scale and cheap torch lighters
.very cheap

I love salvia but still do it rarely every 6-12 months

Just dont listen to psykovsky when tripping salvia is dark enough already :wink:


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: lessismore]
    #18730969 - 08/20/13 05:29 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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mio said:
What extract do you usually smoke

And do leaves do the same for you now as it?



I still have some 10x I believe (lost the label on the bag years ago, I think it's 10x) but I mostly use that for others, first timers. If I use it at all, it's only by adding a little bit to some basic leaf. I really get a much stronger reaction out of Salvia now, compared to my first trips. I'd say yes, the leaves work in the exact way as the extracts. Same direction. Visuals, body feel, everything's about the same. 3 good tokes of leaf and it's space travel time :biggrin:

Scale I have, and I live in Europe, the shipping would cost me 5 times more than the lighter if I ordered it on the net. Will find a new one here locally, just need to search some more.


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Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.



For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it,
and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.
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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: Spacerific]
    #18731129 - 08/20/13 07:17 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Any experiences with taking salvia sublingual?


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Re: Back to Salvia after a long long break [Re: Spacerific]
    #18731151 - 08/20/13 07:25 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

nah. 100x was good.
i just didn't understand what salvia was for.
death in exchange for unlimited power.

i saw the birth of a new universe man.  :aum:

my universe.


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