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OfflineCpt.Crunch
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Pf tek cakes (lots of pins) question
    #18728913 - 08/19/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hello, I do not have a camera but I am in the process of doing pf tek for the second time.

The first time was a success except the yield per cake wasn't that high.

This time, they cakes are pinning, but the majority of the cakes have TONS of small pins, is this normal, or is this a sign that they are going to abort?? Like there are tons of pins often bundled really close together.  Only one of the cakes isn't pinning but the rest have lots of pins.


I mist about 7 times a day for about 20 seconds pressing the trigger fast. And I fan about 10 times a day.

I always fan after misting for about 30-50 seconds and then I leave the lid off for about 15 minutes after fanning.


The 3 or so times that I fan without misting I dont leave the lid off.


Am I doing things right? And is this a sign of lots of aborts?


The pins are like 1mm to 1/2 inch in length.


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Re: Pf tek cakes (lots of pins) question [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
    #18728927 - 08/19/13 06:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Not sure WHY you are getting all the pins you claim to get, but I don't think you need to fan and mist that many times. Are you using perlite for humidification? If so, mist 3-5 times per day. If not, then mist as you currently are. Make sure the mist droplets don't hit the cakes (try to use a drip shield).

You also only need for fan 2-3 times per day. After misting is fine.

If you are planning on consuming the mushrooms, you can remove the aborts and use them still. They will still contain some active ingredient. If you don't remove them, they could go bad and cause contamination.

Good luck!


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Re: Pf tek cakes (lots of pins) question [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
    #18728937 - 08/19/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Only time will tell. When you have growth that explodes like that, yes some are bound to abort. It can only support so much growth so some wont be able to mature. That doesn't doesn't mean they're pretty much all going to abort but it doesn't mean they wont either. Also some might might not be aborts, they might just be patiently awaiting they're turn on the next flush.


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Re: Pf tek cakes (lots of pins) question [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
    #18728945 - 08/19/13 06:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

hey man if u got high amount of pins thats a sign ur doing things right i would say your misting a little much but as long as there is no standing water your good.

10 times a day thats pretty good man . yeah i mean i will go ahead and say if u  have a shitton of pins there is only so much room on the cake and some will get choked out or be stunted .
aborts just stop growing and sometimes gain a blackish cap .
don't worry about it. you will have mushies.


your pins will grow slow at first and then once they get into their form and start to get their color they will freakin double like every day its amazing, pick them right when the veil breaks or right before and good luck :smile:

and don't listen to the people man i know exactly why you have that many pins, because you put some love in ya mushrooms and gave them attention and care!!

as long as you don't have sitting water under your cakes or like at the bottom of the fruiting chamber do what you gotta do .


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Re: Pf tek cakes (lots of pins) question [Re: mushmagic]
    #18728952 - 08/19/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

So if some do not grow completely I should leave them on the cake when dunking for the 2nd flush?? I am no where near dunking for the 2nd flush because the 1st has hardly began.


and should I stop fanning/misting as much then?


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Re: Pf tek cakes (lots of pins) question [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
    #18728962 - 08/19/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Aborts tend to have caps that have darkened so if this isn't the case leave them on for the next flush.


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Re: Pf tek cakes (lots of pins) question [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
    #18728967 - 08/19/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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as long as you don't have sitting water under your cakes or like at the bottom of the fruiting chamber do what you gotta do
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Thanks, will do. I will take the misting down a notch.


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Re: Pf tek cakes (lots of pins) question [Re: lulz]
    #18728972 - 08/19/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

and by the way droplets hitting the cake is FINE lol
infact evaporation off the cake is the best way to get those suckers to pin just lightly mist like not hard or anything let it fall on them
and fan alot and bam you got pin heaven.


in their native environment it POURS DOwn rain.

but yeah if u got them on tinfoil don't let the water collect like poke holes in the foil to let the water drain next time if u gotta or dump it off .


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Re: Pf tek cakes (lots of pins) question [Re: lulz]
    #18728983 - 08/19/13 06:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I just checked them and there was collected water on some of the tin foil squares, I'm gonna take a tooth pick and poke some holes in them so water can drain in the future. thanks for the advice :smile:


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Re: Pf tek cakes (lots of pins) question [Re: lulz]
    #18728994 - 08/19/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)




one of my cakes was a whopping 14 grams  believe it or not

i was using white millet cakes
despite popular belief if u set them on a little trey of moist vermiculite after pins forming dry cakes is not a problem they suck the water right out of the verm and produce big fat mushies :3 infact i always put my cakes on a trey of verm after pinning even with PF tek and i have posted that on here and people always question yet im the one getting fat yields off small cakes :3 in the end its a personal journey so fuckk ittt
good luck



Edited by lulz (08/19/13 06:54 PM)


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Re: Pf tek cakes (lots of pins) question [Re: lulz]
    #18729074 - 08/19/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Interesting, I am going to PM you about that :mushroom2:


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